In feudal Japan, when a senior retainer or samurai causes humiliation to his lord, a sepuku ceremony is in order. In modern times, this would be "corporate sepuku" (i.e., top management shakeup/re-org). I hope Canon can get rid of its crop of "Worm Tongues" (Lord Of The Ring - The Two Towers reference).
Nikon D300 / D3 what effect on Canon?
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In feudal Japan, when a senior retainer or samurai causes humiliation to his lord, a sepuku ceremony is in order. In modern times, this would be "corporate sepuku" (i.e., top management shakeup/re-org). I hope Canon can get rid of its crop of "Worm Tongues" (Lord Of The Ring - The Two Towers reference).
It's not their R&D that's the choke point, it's the product strategy (a.k.a marketing) folks. They already have the technology, just playing chicken with brinksmanship and being stingy, that's the problem. A case of pure short-sightedness more than anything.
yup, actually think that Canon have the technology available.... it's just whether they want to implement now or later. But definitely good to have competition 
will force companies to innovate and release new features/technology faster
right now, i'm still happy with the 400D and 20D that have both served me well, together with the lenses I got
will force companies to innovate and release new features/technology faster right now, i'm still happy with the 400D and 20D that have both served me well, together with the lenses I got
Now, since I'm quite sure that I won't be using the 51 AF points, the high resolution LCD screen sounds to be as a large battery drain which I won't be relying much on, the improved FPS isn't something that I'd be using either, the D300 sounds just as appealing as 40D. Are we getting overly concerned with the extra gimmicks that the cameras are giving us, and distracts us from their actual purpose?
Frankly there is only a few things that I am concerned with. With all the marketing gimmicks and strategies that both companies are employing, who has the more effective noise control, accurate colour rendition and AF technology the foremost important. The rest are nothing but a set of published numbers aimed at enticing people to buy their cameras. And unfortunately, unless sample pictures are published, there is no way for us to compare the images from either cameras.
Frankly there is only a few things that I am concerned with. With all the marketing gimmicks and strategies that both companies are employing, who has the more effective noise control, accurate colour rendition and AF technology the foremost important. The rest are nothing but a set of published numbers aimed at enticing people to buy their cameras. And unfortunately, unless sample pictures are published, there is no way for us to compare the images from either cameras.
Well, if we dont threaten to switch, those guys don't get off their asses and do some work. However, that said, like someone here pointed out.. Canon still has the upper hand with its fast lenses and Nikon will have to start pushing out some F1.2s to really make a dent in Canon's armour.
In reality, my mk2s have served its purpose well and I've never had the need to move to Mk2N or the Mk3. Maybe later.. but I'd much rather try out a D3 than to donate more to Canon. Just because I am a mac user doesnt mean I can't or won't use a Windows platform.
Well said! My sentiment exactly. D3 & D300 specs is great, and it will definitely give pressure for Canon greatly. But to put it like 1dmk3, 1dsmk3 and 40d like last century technology just over 1 week time is quite funny. Now it sounds like 40D, 1D3, 1Ds3 is no longer good enough for people in this forum.
I kind of agree.
BUT... my contention with Canon is their habitual tactic of withholding features on their non-pro DSLRs so as to prevent the sales of their more advanced cameras from being cannibalized. Witness this on the 300D vs 10D even though they are nearly equal in hardware (not built). Why can't Canon include the simple AF micro-adjustment on the 40D? Why do they limit 3 shots for exposure bracketing? Don't even get me started on the clumsy way in which they've implemented auto ISO. Sheesh.... and to think we are dealing with one of the biggest and most successful camera equipment companies. These features cost Canon NOTHING to implement. :angry:
Nikon has gone 1 step further by allowing their D300 to share the same AF sensor as their professional D3. This will NEVER happen in Canon-land. With Canon, it's all about handicapping this and that even though they have the technology.
Kit, I don't think you understand our point. Canon listens very very intently to their PRO 1D customers. That's why in my earlier analogy, I call the 1D customers the "served" class.
The frustration is coming from Canon's non-1D customers (5D, 10/20/30D, 300/350/400D), which have become the "serving" class. We get throne a bone or two, some scraps at times, and have not been treated as customers very much. To us, Canon's philosophy is "You'll get what we give you, and you'll be content", which is a huge stark contrast to their philosophy for 1D class customers "Oh Mighty 1D customer... how should I serve you today?".
We talk about how much thought, how much design has gone into shaping, designing, crafting the 1D models. In contrast, other non 1D models are often shoe-horned, crippled, and distanced.
We're also photographers very much like those 1D users, so please don't mistake frustration of being given second rate attention to being feature-obsessed.
Some features cost Canon NOTHING to implement. One good example is white balance temperature adjustment on the 350D/400D. Note that EVERY other equivalent model from their competition has this simple feature, but it's missing on the 350D/400D. On their cheaper cameras, Canon introduced some of those basic features with ZERO price penalty only after the competition stepped in. This means they could have done that right from the start.
Honestly, I don't care about 45 AF points or 63 metering zones. I just want simple but effective features that work.
Well I sure paid through my nose for my 5D. While I don't expect 1D AF in a 5D, or weather sealing for that matter, I sure as hell didn't expect an EXACT REPLICA of the 20D's AF being grafted on top either. A little more thought given to the 5D's usability would have been exceedingly nice of them. Unfortunately though, this is not happening.
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If you know what the 5D was before you got it, then the joke's on you. You thought it was an oversized 20D and still went for it.
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