doubt they will do it so soon for the 1D series...they have not earn enough. But may be a 1DM3n will be release to capture back some market shares!
Nikon D300 / D3 what effect on Canon?
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doubt they will do it so soon for the 1D series...they have not earn enough. But may be a 1DM3n will be release to capture back some market shares!
I never heard before that any Nikon AF system is better than mk2n...??? Which model ? D2x? D2xs? More than 80% of the sport photographers in the US or European countries r using Canon 1dmk2n before mk3 launch...not sure now though...
actually Nikon whacked Canon quite hard as they hold their 1D mk3 production...so those guys quening might thinking to get extra system with a 12-24mm or change camp if their collection of lenses have not invest more than $20K...
hopefully have better resolution than 922k pixels in 3" LCD, 16mega pixels in FF 12mega in 1.3x 8 mega in 1.6x CF built like the same concept on D2x...Live view no need AF as I don't like to treat it like pt and shoot. 3 slot of CF or SD available will be good as to cover 16mega pixels in 10fps...
Confirm that D3 at ISO 6400 will be better than mk3 at iso 6400 as it's all about the bigger size of the sensor to have cleaner noise pic...unless the Nikon design a bad sensor...then we have nothing to said.
PS: I can get cleaner noise control at ISO 3200 when shoot at 8 mega than on 10 mega pixels...
The 5D Mk2 release is really going to be a test of character, more so than technical superiority for Canon.
If they truly believe in their own strategy, and don't want to make their early adopter 1D pro-customers look like idiots, the 5D Mk 2 will be an incremental release similar to the 30D to 40D, no major breakthroughs. A higher MP sensor (16mp?) and 5fps is certain. Other than that I seriously doubt any major improvement in the AF nor in weather-sealing. Status quo there. And the sad thing here is, most 5D users rarely crank up the fps nor need much higher resolution than 12mp. I really hope my prediction is wrong with Canon surprising us, but I won't hold my breath on it.
Another food for thought for all.
How long do you think Canon will eat humble pie while Nikon take up the bragging rights (and poach the fiercely protected Canon PRO customers)? Until the next PMA? 12 months? 18 months?
Will they blink and release the "N" versions of the 1Dmk3 and 1DsMk3? Or will they hang tough and try to convince their customers (and themselves) that the present 1D offerings are still superior to the D3.
As it stands now, we have:
Canon 1Ds Mark 3: The World's highest resolution full-frame 35mm DSLR
Canon 1D Mark 3: The World's fastest 10MP DSLR
Nikon D3: The World's fastest full-frame 35mm DSLR
The words "Full-Frame" and "Speed" has always been what Canon believes is their birthright. And now, with Nikon claiming their own rights on both Full-Frame AND Speed in one flag-ship model, I really wonder what the next steps are for Canon.
How long do you think Canon will eat humble pie while Nikon take up the bragging rights (and poach the fiercely protected Canon PRO customers)? Until the next PMA? 12 months? 18 months?
Will they blink and release the "N" versions of the 1Dmk3 and 1DsMk3? Or will they hang tough and try to convince their customers (and themselves) that the present 1D offerings are still superior to the D3.
As it stands now, we have:
Canon 1Ds Mark 3: The World's highest resolution full-frame 35mm DSLR
Canon 1D Mark 3: The World's fastest 10MP DSLR
Nikon D3: The World's fastest full-frame 35mm DSLR
The words "Full-Frame" and "Speed" has always been what Canon believes is their birthright. And now, with Nikon claiming their own rights on both Full-Frame AND Speed in one flag-ship model, I really wonder what the next steps are for Canon.
If canon follows its usual life-cycle/time-cycle - the 1 series would not be refreshed that soon. Probably an interim "N" version again
to "stick a pacifier into the mouths of complaining crowds" and to hint to nikon "we are doing something about it, just you wait" ... I'm guessing they'll hang tough, being a japanese brand/company, they'll be stoic about their beliefs and standby their rules - unless they decide to heck it all and did what nikon did (which is unlikely - it may happen.. - but in such a long time, we haven't seen it happen).
although i agree that more sports photogs use canon, but where did u get the 80% figure from?
As a 1DsMk2 owner, the spec for 1DsMk3 is NOT attractive to me at all. I doubt anyone will be happy to spend 8kUSD on a crappy LCD and a not-so-reliable AF system (if canon puts the same mk3 AF in it), especially after seeing what Nikon has offerred. High resolution is definately a good thing, but I donot think the MF users are willing to put their bit on it.
Of course, it is hard to switch with loads of canon gears. But I really hope Canon can respond with something real.
I hope noise control is good on both D3 & mk3. But I think the difference may be very small.
The willingness to switch is what drives competition.
To stem loss of business, Canon will now be counting on brand loyalty (a concept I can't understand), and the high financial cost of switching systems (lenses, flash etc) to tide them over this embarrassing period, till they can, presumably, retake the technological lead.
To Canon lovers out there, don't feel threatened whenever someone says he wants to switch camps. In fact, rejoice, and say you want to switch too! The more insecure Canon feels over its ability to retain customers, the more pressure it will feel to give users more.
And that's a good thing for us.
To stem loss of business, Canon will now be counting on brand loyalty (a concept I can't understand), and the high financial cost of switching systems (lenses, flash etc) to tide them over this embarrassing period, till they can, presumably, retake the technological lead.
To Canon lovers out there, don't feel threatened whenever someone says he wants to switch camps. In fact, rejoice, and say you want to switch too! The more insecure Canon feels over its ability to retain customers, the more pressure it will feel to give users more.
And that's a good thing for us.
switch camps please! i need to buy cheap 2nd hand canon equipment!
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i think canon offers more lens options than nikon, at varying price points. i'm just a pursuing a casual hobby, so i'd rather spend my money on lenses than black bricks with gaping holes.
come to think of it, why not have camera bodies in a range of colours? i'd kill to get a neon yellow 350D man. how cool is that? hahaha
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i think canon offers more lens options than nikon, at varying price points. i'm just a pursuing a casual hobby, so i'd rather spend my money on lenses than black bricks with gaping holes.
come to think of it, why not have camera bodies in a range of colours? i'd kill to get a neon yellow 350D man. how cool is that? hahaha
brand loyalty = lens system... its hard to switch over.
canon got caught with its pants down - some heads are going to roll in their top management.
nikon's got the timing just right too - market for full frame is just gaining prominence (thanks to 5D) and now they're going to just work off from there.
BUT as consumers we should expect companies to continue to leapfrog each other. we've seen some amazing advances in the last 4-5 years and looks like more to come. prices will come down too.
If anything I like the idea that the canon top guys have been humiliated - after all they've been stingy when rolling upgrades e.g. 20d to 30d to 40d.... it obviously was milking their customers for what they've got. i have a feeling they were going to rollout out just a slightly improved 5dMkII - but now they have to come up with something great.
canon's time to sweat it out now - Nikon's return has been swift.
me i'll continue shooting on my 20d and wait for the dust to settle. frankly i'm in it for the pictures, too bad my lens system is eos.
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If only people will feel threatened when they found out they can't take pictures for s h i t with $7k cameras.....
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