Nikon D300 / D3 what effect on Canon?

[Kit]

I take it that you have nothing then...

 

[ak6110]

just be happy with wat u have and shoot some more.

Well said my bro, or you can just do the waiting game.... may be D10 is coming in the near future....

 

[Gunbucker]

I take it that you have nothing then...

Is using the forum's search tool to look up works posted by forum members too difficult for you? You seem quite proactive engaging in these pointless p*ssing contests though.

 

[Kit]

yawn..... still waiting.......

 

[Gunbucker]

For Nikon strategy to work, Canon users must make noise mah. A lot of noise infact, since Canon is pretty huge with plenty of corporate inertia.

Canon users are also learning from Nikon users... they make a lot of noise every time Canon comes out with something better and look what happen now. Nikon really makes 2 to drool for cams, and superb value for money mid range series which pros will not hesistate to buy it as their backup body.

Drooling indeed bro! But I'm going to reserve my praises until someone posts pics taken with the D3/D300, especially with moderate/high ISO settings.

Here's the irony though. Canon fought so hard to overcome the Nikon F5's omni-dominance for the last decade, I suspect the introduction of the D3 brings back some haunting memories of the F5. If the D3 does walk the talk, Canon's in for a real tough competition, now at all levels (pro, semi-pro, casual).

 

[TMC]

Drooling indeed bro! But I'm going to reserve my praises until someone posts pics taken with the D3/D300, especially with moderate/high ISO settings.

Here's the irony though. Canon fought so hard to overcome the Nikon F5's omni-dominance for the last decade, I suspect the introduction of the D3 brings back some haunting memories of the F5. If the D3 does walk the talk, Canon's in for a real tough competition, now at all levels (pro, semi-pro, casual).

the pics are up. ISO5000 shots.

 

[eurekas]

maybe I'm slow...
I just read the specs of D300.
51 autofocus point ?
How come so much ? Normally is 9 only...

 

[Redsun]

oh well just ignore what the other camp comes out with.At the end of the day,if you cant take good pictures,giving you a Canon 1DsMkV or a Nikon D7 wont help anyway
Canon users will still buy their cannons and Nikon users will still get their Nikons

 

[StrifeYun]

maybe I'm slow...
I just read the specs of D300.
51 autofocus point ?
How come so much ? Normally is 9 only...

:think: think for tracking moving object ? :dunno: not sure , duntch care

40D !! haha .... D300 about 1k price diff. :sweat: lens more important

 

[Gunbucker]

:think: think for tracking moving object ? :dunno: not sure , duntch care

40D !! haha .... D300 about 1k price diff. :sweat: lens more important

Lenses, Canon's one saving grace. It's the lenses that drew me to Canon in the first place, and it's the lenses that are keeping me put. Bravo to Canon's optical heroes!

40D is one of the rare genuine upgrades from Canon's non-1D stable. In a different league from the D300, but worthwhile upgrade for those still shooting with the 10D or even the D60.

 

[chopper]

What I feel is that the D3 addresses the needs of a lot of photographers. Full frame and high FPS. In view of the 5D, 1Dmk3 and 1Dsmk3, Canon seems to be saying " You can have this, but can't have that. You want both, you have to pay." Even with the 1Dsmk3, the fps isn't that all attractive to sports photographers.

Also, I don't that there are many people who wants managable files rather than ultra high resolution. after all, it takes a lot of time to handle the RAW files and I believe many people out there do prints to more than A3 sizes.

Not sure what specific group of photographer is really looking for FF and high fps ? Sports photographer ? Why would they crave FF ? Landscape/architectual ? Why would they need high fps ? Wedding/model photography, I would think they would appreciate FF, but 5fps should be plenty fast enough.

And your point exactly, those who want high fps may not like the large file size, so 1D3 is probably good enough ?

Seriously, I see D3 facing competition from 1D3, which are almost on par from MPix perspective, same 14bit, 10fps vs 11fps, 1.3x vs FF. For those pro with tons of white lens, I doubt D3 is a value proposition enough to switch. Similarly, 12MP vs 21MP, that is a gap. And you may say D3 high ISO, 25600, that sounds astronomical, but it's merely 2 stops above 6400. And Canon had been known to be conservative on their ISO max. Let's see the actual output from 3D before any judgement.

D300, not sure what is all the big deal other then the 51 AF points.

But I guess these 2 are good enough to give a knock on Canon's head, to make a good 5D2 for me next year

 

[Gunbucker]

Not sure what specific group of photographer is really looking for FF and high fps ?

But I guess these 2 are good enough to give a knock on Canon's head, to make a good 5D2 for me next year

That's the interesting part isn't it. During the film era, this is basically your EOS-1V HS and F5 users. Granted, a lot have changed since the digital cropped sensor era. But then we humans are creatures of habit, so I'm not sure whether it will entice back the same people who were using their 1v HS and F5s.

Oh tell me about it. I'm still waiting to be "delighted" as a non-1D customer with the 5D2. I'm hoping they don't try to bribe us anymore with cranking up the resolution. Instead, the same 12.8MP sensor, but with improved AF and durability would be very much appreciated.

 

[spartacus.ret]

Oh tell me about it. I'm still waiting to be "delighted" as a non-1D customer with the 5D2. I'm hoping they don't try to bribe us anymore with cranking up the resolution. Instead, the same 12.8MP sensor, but with improved AF and durability would be very much appreciated.

no way, there needs to be a digic III sensor, and also eye control.

 

[cantaresg]

If there is really eye control, I may jump on it. Haha. Why was it removed in the first place? not accurate enough?

 

[vector1]

I just tried the eye control a few days ago, and it absolutely rocks...

If canon just updates the processor for the eye control, and dials up the senstivity, It's going to rock my world.

And it had better come out in the 5D mk2 LOL

 

[Gunbucker]

And our thoughts exactly...

DSLR Customer Satisfaction Survey

 

[cosycatus]

While the D300 might seem like an interesting mid-range DSLR (at least compared to the 40D), i would be surprised if the Canon pros are at all excited about the D3.

Nikon not too long ago claimed that the DX format is all one needs, ie., there is NO need for FF -- DX is just as good. And now they have to eat their words.

I would have thought Canon users (who can get hold of the 21MP 1Ds Mk III) would have looked at the 12MP D3 with scorn and contempt -- certainly not envy! Indeed, many in the Nikon camp are saying: the D3 is a good start (finally), but let's wait for a higher MP D3x.

very misguided viewpoint from viewpoint.

How big do u think the pro market is? It's small. Not everyone goes out and buys a 21 mb camera to shoot your kid. Furthermore, do u think the $$ is in the lens or the body?
It's the lens + accessories that generates $$$.

Nikon do not need to come out with a 23 mb cam to counter cannon. LEt them be the technology leader. I slowly get more users to use my system via a simple D40x...they will buy tons of my 18-200 VR + SB800 which are cheap to produce.

 

[cantaresg]

I just tried the eye control a few days ago, and it absolutely rocks...

If canon just updates the processor for the eye control, and dials up the senstivity, It's going to rock my world.

And it had better come out in the 5D mk2 LOL

But I do not understand why Canon is so slow in implementing this technology. It's siimply cool, epsecially if there is more AF points, and if it is more sensitive and accurate.

 

[kross]

very misguided viewpoint from viewpoint.

How big do u think the pro market is? It's small. Not everyone goes out and buys a 21 mb camera to shoot your kid. Furthermore, do u think the $$ is in the lens or the body?
It's the lens + accessories that generates $$$.

Nikon do not need to come out with a 23 mb cam to counter cannon. LEt them be the technology leader. I slowly get more users to use my system via a simple D40x...they will buy tons of my 18-200 VR + SB800 which are cheap to produce.

heh.... i think nikon is marketing exactly what nintendo did with its simple "next gen" console Wii... it's beating PS3 and xbox 360(which had a 1yr headstart!).... affordable and appealing is key, not just pure muscles....;p

 

[CYRN]

But I do not understand why Canon is so slow in implementing this technology. It's siimply cool, epsecially if there is more AF points, and if it is more sensitive and accurate.

At that time mabbe the technology isn't as advance. IIRC most complain the need to calibrate the ecf constantly, especially those specky.