Paul, I'm sorry to use your thread to push this to a greater height... I can't take this bullshit from this mother's son..... I don't expect to gain support from anyone, I don't need to... I really don't need to....
I guess that's what the forum is for.... Venting this out that's been in my system for so long....
Hi Cedric, no worries. I won't get involved between your argument with Justin to be fair but it seems like he already mentioned at the bottom of the thread that "he would not be replying". So, don't be too hopeful if he attempts to defend himself once more.
I PMed you a week ago. (way up in Page 1).
You should have come out earlier. Many of us here know for a fact you have been reading this thread for a few days now.
You may have claimed a lot of mitigating reasons for your apparent behavior. But in the end, you tried to pass off a severely damaged (700+ repair bill is consider major for me) camera as condition 9. Why did you try to pass off the camera has having warranty, when it has none?
Even if you have no money to pay the refund, why did you not hand over the boxes and bag within the first few days of the sale? You told the TS you left it your "mother's", but it is clear now that you live with your mother. Could it be that the boxes will somehow show that the camera is no longer in warranty?
It is in the little things and the details, that show what kind of person you are. You can try to defend yourself, but these small discrepancies make you highly suspect that I hesitate to believe a single word you say.
Whatever the case, the issues between you and Cedric and Hendra can only be sorted out between you 3. But most clients, professionals and business people, who have any business sense, will know to stay clear from you given your track record, until you sort out all this mess.
Seriously speaking, I think you better stay away from Photography. It is just not 'you'.
Hi, thanks for pointing out. My turn to defend his argument.
1) I met him on a Wednesday at his workplace at VivoCity and passed him 2.5k in cash, he told me that he had "left the other stuffs at his Mother's place" and could only pass the "rest of it" to me on Thursday; furthermore as I was driving off on the way home, I gave him a call. "Hey bro, do you still have the USB cables?" Justin replies: "Oh, ya its all at my Mother's place.. ill pass it to you tomorrow". What happened after that? The next day I called him, he told me he was busy because of the nature of his work and could only pass it to me on Friday - ok fine, that I can understand. Now, what happened on Friday?
I called him from morning til midnight only to be either i) avoided, ii) rejected, iii) phone turned off. I even messaged him twice in the afternoon that very day in a very good natured tone, 1st message was "Hi bro, pls call me when you're free", 2nd was "Hi brother, i hope you honour your words and would respond to me as you promised at the day of the deal. I hope you are a good guy." What happened? Since I got no reply, no phone call... and I being quite an angsty guy, I made some nasty remarks on his Facebook (which I already apologized for) and started this thread to
WARN others about who this guy was. At that point of time, I did not even know who Cedric was, nor even knew that my friends know his brother, or my friends know his girlfriend.. I mean why would I give a sh*t in first place about someone's private life if that guy did not OWE me MY MONEY or at least a CLEAR, HONEST AND DETAILED explanation about the faults of his camera?
2) He stated in his thread the camera was a condition 9/10 and verbally confirmed with me at the point of deal that "He had just sent the camera for full servicing at CSC" and he had lost the receipt for it when I asked if I could have it. Haha let me ask you guys a question, does full servicing include: leaving a 795/495(if warranty still valid) dollar damaged USB port unreplaced? Do you guys service a car and have the workshop return it to you without replacing one of your busted tires?
3) At that point I paid you (Justin) a surprise visit to your house just happened to be the exact same time you "sent me that message" on Facebook claiming that you left your phone at office. Can I just say something else? The phone was turned off for a few minutes during the afternoon and when i called 1 hour later it rang again and nobody picked up. There must be some spirits lying around in your office, I wouldn't leave my personal stuff down there. It's creepy.
In fairness to myself, if i had originally wanted to run away from him, there will not be any sense for me to not take his call after the first day he tried to call me. And that was over a domke bag that i offered to give him. If i wanted to run, I wouldn't have transferred him the 500 dollars if i wanted to make a quick buck. This was all before I read all this clubsnap messages. Besides the first time not answering his calls, all subsequent calls that i missed i called back once i could.
4) Honestly regarding what you just said, it's pretty much bollocks to me. I don't know if you answered my calls because of my insignificant bursts of anger on Facebook private messaging, or because I started this thread on Clubsnap, or because you know that certain other professionals like Cedric and whoever else are lurking around the forums and might happen to drop by my thread, or because I pestered my friends about your family background, or whatever. You responded to me because simply you know you had better do so or I will make your life miserable.
5) I don't care what you want to say to me. Seriously. If I don't get my money back on stipulated time, then just wait and see. It could be debt collectors, it could be a lawyer's letter, it could be more family pestering, it could be a lot of things. Likewise Justin, you already said. This is YOUR problem, don't involve your family in it. Please. I hate it implicate others but if I can't get you, of course I'll find them. Common sense. I suggest that you be a man, do the right thing. You're a working adult now in UOB, don't hide in your house, turn off your handphone, leave your handphone in the office or some rubbish place, lie to your girlfriend or mum or whatever for your own comfort and self-denial. If you can't face the music, you can sell off your car, or your other cameras, or borrow from your friends, rob the bank or beg for money- Seriously, i dont care. I'm not running the Justin Yeo charity foundation so that you can take my 2k and run around and only pay me back as and when you feel like. Simply put, I want my money back. Pretty damn soon. I hope you read this before it's too late.
In all fairness on my part, I will definitely update this thread when the money is being settled between us two.
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I seriously hope moderators do not close this thread - other photographers/clients ought to know about such an interesting personality like Justin.
Thanks.
