Sony Zeiss FE24-70/F

[spinworkxroy]

actually..I think the camera has more flaws than the lens but we all forgive and overcome the flaws... It's not a cheap camera either. shutter issue..af issue..noisy shutter..so this lens issue to me..is less serious

 

[Kit]

yawn.........

 

[ZoomZ]

Wah piang.... you compo very long read until I gong gong.

Ok lah. Keep it if you like it.

For me this is not worth the price. No buy for me.

well, zeiss .....]

 

[coolhirako]

Ya..for the price i'm not buy it too

 

[Thoth]

Ya..for the price i'm not buy it too

Same. Definitely not worth it. If d FE 28-70 performance isn't so far behind.

 

[ricleo]

actually..I think the camera has more flaws than the lens but we all forgive and overcome the flaws... It's not a cheap camera either. shutter issue..af issue..noisy shutter..so this lens issue to me..is less serious

people live with the "short-comings" of the A7r due to the great IQ from the 36MP sensor. What the 24-70 offers is flexibility from a zoom, but over-priced for the images coming out of it.

A7r flaws? noisy shutter. no one complained the 1DX and D4 for being loud. shutter vibration? improve shooting posture or use a faster shutter speed. AF issue? no issue really, just CDAF as it is on a full frame camera. slow but accurate.

 

[ManWearPants]

Ok guys. Let's not get into a squabble. I shared these pictures as I personally has been given an emotional roller-coaster. Initial impression good. Second impression suucks. After seeing the jgp corrections am slightly consoled but still feels bitter having forked out so much.

This will no doubt be a controversial zoom lens as it deviates from manufacturers who attempts to perfect the design and optics in a lens.

Consumer dollars matter. Let's see if such trends will continue.

 

[ManWearPants]

Somehow, some people just have to find justification for their purchases.....

Kit, out of curiosity, with the in-camera jpg correction. The lens still do not make the grade for your architecture shoots?

 

[albertri]

I think this lens is not totally rubbish and useless the fact is I see a lot of good photos in the net like what our fellow CSer are doing is working around the lens shortcomings.

To me personally the lens is not a total waste but from the price point of view to me it's over priced

 

[ManWearPants]

Same. Definitely not worth it. If d FE 28-70 performance isn't so far behind.

Please share the performance of the FE 28-70 since aberrations are corrected in camera. Theoretically speaking, there should be little difference in IQ between the 2 lenses other than the lack of 24-27mm FoV.

 

[Thoth]

I think this lens is not totally rubbish and useless the fact is I see a lot of good photos in the net like what our fellow CSer are doing is working around the lens shortcomings. To me personally the lens is not a total waste but from the price point of view to me it's over priced

Tatz d point we r all trying to make. In economic term, it serves very low marginal utility.

 

[Thoth]

Please share the performance of the FE 28-70 since aberrations are corrected in camera. Theoretically speaking, there should be little difference in IQ between the 2 lenses other than the lack of 24-27mm FoV.

I dun have d lens. I've seen some shots in cs tat shows d kit zoom is quite capable.

 

[Kit]

Kit, out of curiosity, with the in-camera jpg correction. The lens still do not make the grade for your architecture shoots?

Truthfully, I never bothered myself with Sony anymore so I don't know if it works.

 

[ManWearPants]

OK. Going to watch Pompeii and the eruption of Mt Vesuvius. Very timely considering a volcano is erupting near us.

I wonder if the distortion in video will be corrected too.

 

[albertri]

Tatz d point we r all trying to make. In economic term, it serves very low marginal utility.

yeah hope those fellow CSer who bought wont feel bad this is individual preference if they feel this lens is worth it good for them for those who feel otherwise let's wait for the next UWA lens or have to find another way e.g. use A-Mount UWA or Canon + Metabone adaptor and others.

Personally I was ready to get this lens really badly needed a travel lens as I don't want to lug around my prime lenses. My Ideal number of lenses during travel maybe 1 or 2 max maybe 3 lenses in the bag. So when I was in Osaka this was the 1st thing I did go to the shop and test it, I have seen other reviews and feedback about it but I was still open minded and willing to compromise, but most of my test shot I find it not worth the $$$ I was impressed more by FE28-70 and SEL16-70Z and other lenses in the display include the 50/1.4ZA and 85/1.4 hehehe

 

[syke]

well, zeiss badge aside...i really couldn't care about the zeiss name...there are people who have the camera and need a 2470 zoom lens and unfortunately this is the ONLY one available for the camera. You don't have any other native choices. Using adapters and all work but it'll cost alot more to get the A mount version and adapter, and using a canon version makes it much slower to AF etc..so what other choices is there natively? So for those who always use a 2470, this is the only choice. It's by default you have to use it. That's just the price to pay for buying into the FE system. And sometimes its just not feasible to keep changing prime lenses during shoots..there's just not enough time. This lens definately isn't perfect..and yes i do wish it was better than what it is...but like i said..it's not like i have a choice so..just have to somehow make it work. Secondly, the IQ really isn't that bad. use it properly and your results will be good enough. The outcome i get after post production for all my photos with this lens is pretty decent..i can't tell it apart from a Canon version after post. Just take this photo as an example...just look at it as a photo at 24mm...subject matter and photographer aside... Can you tell it was taken by this lens? Is the distortion really that bad? Is the IQ really not sufficient? BTW, i did not use any lens correction for this shot.

Can't use this judge distortion bro...

Point is for a walk about lens, I would be rather pissed looking at all the distortion on my holiday pics... As most of them would have buildings as the subject or with them on the background.

And after paying so much for a lens that does not offer much breakthrough in terms of physical size, why should I give in to using jpg just to mitigate the problem?

I know even Leica has such issues, but what does one expect considering most of their lenses are older than most of us lurking on this forum.

If Sony allowed in camera corrections to raw in Adobe, probably no one would have noticed it. But they didn't.

Maybe the kit lens is still the most prudent choice. And I guess it would have upset many who have sold their kit lens for this...

Anyways, this is just my opinion...

 

[albertri]

Here's some quick snap using this lens all taken wide open 24mm Sorry no composition here just random shots inside the shop

And the below is taken by SEL16-70CZ crop mode @ 16mm f4

I personal think the 16-70CZ performs better than 24-70/4

 

[pinholecam]

Right now, we can use lenses made 10,40yrs ago, on their native mount cameras or adapted on others because they are optically corrected more or less.
With software tweaks, some can become even better than before.

But this new approach to produce poorly correct lenses and just use firmware is wrong imo.
Especially when its charged at a premium.
I can't imagine in 10-15yrs time if Sony is no longer making cameras or they have moved to 'ZE' mount on the 'Z7r' and say 'Sorry, no more support for legacy FE mount in firmware'.

Maybe 3rd party software will step in, maybe not.

 

[albertri]

Right now, we can use lenses made 10,40yrs ago, on their native mount cameras or adapted on others because they are optically corrected more or less.
With software tweaks, some can become even better than before.

But this new approach to produce poorly correct lenses and just use firmware is wrong imo.
Especially when its charged at a premium.
I can't imagine in 10-15yrs time if Sony is no longer making cameras or they have moved to 'ZE' mount on the 'Z7r' and say 'Sorry, no more support for legacy FE mount in firmware'.

Maybe 3rd party software will step in, maybe not.

that's another thing to worry lens maker would rely of software correction and no longer make great lenses :-(.

 

[spinworkxroy]

The latest Adobe Camera Raw 8.4 has lens profile for this lens already...go download