Sony Zeiss FE24-70/F

[spinworkxroy]

What you ask for, you will get.

Thanks alot man..
As suspected..the FE2470 looks alot like a 22 or 23mm..once the correction comes in, it crops and adjusts.

However, looking at the original RAW file in this photo..the distortion isn't very visible...so you do get about 22mm if you shoot like a sunset or something where there's no straight lines

 

[ManWearPants]

Thanks alot man..
As suspected..the FE2470 looks alot like a 22 or 23mm..once the correction comes in, it crops and adjusts.

However, looking at the original RAW file in this photo..the distortion isn't very visible...so you do get about 22mm if you shoot like a sunset or something where there's no straight lines

Bro, the distortion is visible in the raw file. Buildings are tilted inwards. It is like a lesser fisheye lens. Only the center horizon when held horizontally straight is straight. I personally do not find it usable. Only the jpg is usable but the colours are like.....

 

[silvermoon1407]

Bro, the distortion is visible in the raw file. Buildings are tilted inwards. It is like a lesser fisheye lens. Only the center horizon when held horizontally straight is straight. I personally do not find it usable. Only the jpg is usable but the colours are like.....

Just got my SEL2470Z, despite the negative comments from many of you here. Did a quick comparison between the jpegs and raw and yes, the distortion issues are very apparent. But like what some have said, it's not something that is terribly difficult to correct in post. just a +10 distortion and some vignetting tweak in lightroom and there you have it. When the adobe lens profile is out, that would not be an issue anymore.

Sharpness-wise, seriously I'm not sure how subjective it can be. I've not used any Canon L, Leica or Otus lenses before, but from the 24mp files of my A7 with this lens, both center and corner sharpness is definitely acceptable, if not good. As an enthusiast who don't print large, the image quality is very good, even if I have a cheapo kenko uv filter on it.

Then the question on if the premium price is worth it, I'd say yes. The build quality, af speed, OSS, size and weight, there's literally nothing like it. More importantly, the lens feels so damn balanced on the camera. If you are just a hobbyist/amateur shooter, this lens fulfills all your needs. If you are a professional, the colours and contrast and detail this lens renders is more than enough for you to pp with, coupled with lens profile soon (I hope). Of course if you are a diehard architecture/test-chart fanatic, of course you are not going to be happy about it. You're looking at the wrong lens.

 

[spinworkxroy]

I honestly find the raw file ok.distortion is there but I found that acceptable. it can easily be fixed but for this I wouldn't even need to..in any case..I bought this lens for portraits and events so distortion on the corners mostly dont bother me. Most of what i shoot isn't in the corners and most times, i don't have straight lines in the corners.

 

[sagiluck]

Indoor test shot.. still can make do without flash, sharpness is there too, but don't understand why the blurred highlight isn't round when its wide open? not a problem for me though.. subject is always more important than background to me [ edit : retest with 50mm & 70mm, it does get better =) ]

33MM F4 1/60

 

[ManWearPants]

I am amazed how forgiving a lot of CSers are. Everything also ok. I rest my case. hahaha.....

 

[albertri]

I am amazed how forgiving a lot of CSers are. Everything also ok. I rest my case. hahaha.....

I can live with the lens issue but I just cant force my self to pay that much for such a lens... Pardon for those who have the lens I am just saying my personal views after my brief encounter with the lens.

 

[rko]

just wondering how does it comnpares to the 2870 other than the aperature? Thinking of lugging 2 primes or a zoom for a upcoming holiday trip

 

[ZoomZ]

Some shoot mainly jpg. Some shot raw but enjoy using lightroom to made fine adjustment.

I won't buy this lens though. Too high a price for the IQ it produces.

I am amazed how forgiving a lot of CSers are. Everything also ok. I rest my case. hahaha.....

 

[Thoth]

I am amazed how forgiving a lot of CSers are. Everything also ok. I rest my case. hahaha.....

Some shoot mainly jpg. Some shot raw but enjoy using lightroom to made fine adjustment.

I won't buy this lens though. Too high a price for the IQ it produces.

I totally agree... Haha... Got Zeiss badge can liao... D rest doesn't matter... LOL :bsmilie:

 

[Kit]

I am amazed how forgiving a lot of CSers are. Everything also ok. I rest my case. hahaha.....

Somehow, some people just have to find justification for their purchases.....

 

[Thoth]

Somehow, some people just have to find justification for their purchases.....

After spending so much for a product that dun hold its supposed value. Haha

 

[richiemccaw1]

After spending so much for a product that dun hold its supposed value. Haha

I suppose you can sell it off for a decent price on ebay or fredmiranda? Reviews seem to be pretty alright there so used values may remain high for a while more.

 

[Kit]

Value is subjective. If you found a lens you like, good for you but I don't see the need to knock other people's opinion.

 

[Thoth]

Value is subjective. If you found a lens you like, good for you but I don't see the need to knock other people's opinion.

Well. Agree wif u. Apologies if I sound condescending. Just feel sony in general should launch a better product giving it tat it holds a Zeiss badge.

 

[Kit]

I was referring to someone else actually.

 

[spinworkxroy]

Some shoot mainly jpg. Some shot raw but enjoy using lightroom to made fine adjustment.

I won't buy this lens though. Too high a price for the IQ it produces.

well, zeiss badge aside...i really couldn't care about the zeiss name...there are people who have the camera and need a 2470 zoom lens and unfortunately this is the ONLY one available for the camera. You don't have any other native choices. Using adapters and all work but it'll cost alot more to get the A mount version and adapter, and using a canon version makes it much slower to AF etc..so what other choices is there natively?
So for those who always use a 2470, this is the only choice. It's by default you have to use it. That's just the price to pay for buying into the FE system.
And sometimes its just not feasible to keep changing prime lenses during shoots..there's just not enough time.
This lens definately isn't perfect..and yes i do wish it was better than what it is...but like i said..it's not like i have a choice so..just have to somehow make it work.

Secondly, the IQ really isn't that bad. use it properly and your results will be good enough. The outcome i get after post production for all my photos with this lens is pretty decent..i can't tell it apart from a Canon version after post.

Just take this photo as an example...just look at it as a photo at 24mm...subject matter and photographer aside...
Can you tell it was taken by this lens? Is the distortion really that bad? Is the IQ really not sufficient?
BTW, i did not use any lens correction for this shot.

 

[Thoth]

well, zeiss badge aside...i really couldn't care about the zeiss name...there are people who have the camera and need a 2470 zoom lens and unfortunately this is the ONLY one available for the camera. You don't have any other native choices. Using adapters and all work but it'll cost alot more to get the A mount version and adapter, and using a canon version makes it much slower to AF etc..so what other choices is there natively? So for those who always use a 2470, this is the only choice. It's by default you have to use it. That's just the price to pay for buying into the FE system. And sometimes its just not feasible to keep changing prime lenses during shoots..there's just not enough time. This lens definately isn't perfect..and yes i do wish it was better than what it is...but like i said..it's not like i have a choice so..just have to somehow make it work. Secondly, the IQ really isn't that bad. use it properly and your results will be good enough. The outcome i get after post production for all my photos with this lens is pretty decent..i can't tell it apart from a Canon version after post. Just take this photo as an example...just look at it as a photo at 24mm...subject matter and photographer aside... Can you tell it was taken by this lens? Is the distortion really that bad? Is the IQ really not sufficient? BTW, i did not use any lens correction for this shot.

There's alwayz d FE 28-70 if u dun need tat 24-27mm range.

 

[Kit]

Is the distortion really that bad? Is the IQ really not sufficient?

How this photo can be used to gauge distortion is way beyond me. Unless the spiral staircase is actually a straight flight one. Your subjects were in the centre portion of the frame. Quite frankly, if a lens cannot resolve that portion well, you can throw it away.

 

[spinworkxroy]

How this photo can be used to gauge distortion is way beyond me. Unless the spiral staircase is actually a straight flight one. Your subjects were in the centre portion of the frame. Quite frankly, if a lens cannot resolve that portion well, you can throw it away.

exactly..thats why I believe if you use this lens understanding its weaknesses you can surely overcome it by shooting in a different angle and being aware where not to put your subjects. having said that...following the rule of thirds..you won't jave issues. I guess my point is..dont shoot with this lens just to prove its weaknesses but shoot this lens by overcoming its weaknesses. its not a perfect lens we all know that but the one behind the lens plays a bigger part.