Nikon/Sigma or Tokina 12-24

[Dennis]

Aiya just buy loh, both are OK but you may only see the problems after 3 years ???. :dunno: The extra amount that you pay for the Nikon probably goes to :-
1) The design
2) The optics and coating
3) The QC
4) The build quality
I am sure the Nikon will still be kicking after many years of usage but cannot say the same for a Sigma so the decision is yours.

 

[loupgarou]

to add on, even just mounting the cokin 82mm adapter i still see some vignette from the viewfinder of 20D, and it shows on the pic as well

loupgarou can vouch for that, i was trying on his cam

actually, the only filter worth putting on is the IR filter (!!!), since a hoya 82mm R72 would cost in excess of US 139 (that's the price of a hoya R72 77mm), I'm now working on a diy thing using ELP filters (check mo thread)...

in anycase, you can also buy Cokin X series filter and handhold in front of the filter element if you must, its just not elegant.

*and don't bother trying the Lee snap on filter holder, it just won't work /too small

 

[Clown]

Hey clown bro, I was so inspired by your Israel photos that i got myself a Sigma 12-24mm too! (Codenamed : Smallma)
:bsmilie: :bsmilie: :thumbsup:

fwah! power lah!
i think i should be working for sigma marketing liao. haha..
but it's a good lens. hope it serves u well

 

[Watcher]

would anyone make a fuss about this no-filter issue when buying a nikkor 14mm prime rectilinear?

Price difference? 12-24DX vs 14mm (list) is $1980 vs $3250 :bigeyes:

They expect that if you spend that kind of $$$, you will know what to do. Even so, the 12-24 Sigma is wider than 14mm, both with 1.5 crop and full 35mm frame. The 2mm will give you what, 10-15 degrees difference in view? (Loupgarou, can help out here? ). That would affect the filter vignetting issue.

 

[Clown]

Price difference? 12-24DX vs 14mm (list) is $1980 vs $3250 :bigeyes:

They expect that if you spend that kind of $$$, you will know what to do. Even so, the 12-24 Sigma is wider than 14mm, both with 1.5 crop and full 35mm frame. The 2mm will give you what, 10-15 degrees difference in view? (Loupgarou, can help out here? ). That would affect the filter vignetting issue.

your point here?

i'm trying to say that BOTH lenses do not have a front filter mount. and i dont see anyone bitching about the nikkor's unprotected front element.

meaning if i spend less money on a sigma, i'm not supposed to know what i'm doing?

 

[icarus]

fwah! power lah!
i think i should be working for sigma marketing liao. haha..
but it's a good lens. hope it serves u well

I was quite worried about the 'cyclops' eye of the lens initially, but after using it for a few days, i realised its not that bad lah. Just need to be extra careful (hey i am careful with all my lenses anyway). and best of all, it can be used effectively with film too! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :lovegrin:

 

[loupgarou]

on a 1.5x crop camera.
the FOV of 12mm-24mm = 90 degrees
the FOV of 14mm = 81.20 degrees
the FOV of DX 10.5 diagonal fisheye (dunno how to calculate)

hehe on a 1.6x crop camera
the FOV of a 10mm = 96.73 degrees
the FOV of a 12mm = 86.60 degrees..

is an extra 10 degrees a big deal? hmm.

 

[loupgarou]

They expect that if you spend that kind of $$$, you will know what to do.

actually, what do they expect you to do once you plonk down 3k for a lens that does not have a front filter mount.

(sigma has a 82mm front filter mount on the hood cap, but if you use it, you get vignetting up to 14-17mm (depending on slim filter or not) )

the reason why sigma's vignettes is because at 82mm, the filter ring enters the field of view of the lens itself, if you can redesign and make a hood +front filter mount at 86mm, you wouldn't even have this problem.

problem of course, is who can do this? and of course, buying a circ polariser or a hoya R72 IR is going to be killer $$$ at 86mm

sigma 12-24 with cokin P series filter attached
http://www.tdsuo.com/gallery/list.php?exhibition=205

 

[HOCL]

Here are some Tokina 12-24 threads at dpreview ...

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=11638277
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=11794107
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11824506

Who is waiting for this lens?
1. HOCL

 

[sam_always]

Suggested retail price is US499... wondering what is the price will be in singapore? anyone?


Who is waiting for this lens?
1. HOCL
2. Sam_always

 

[vortex]

would sigma or nikon price drop when this is released?

im still leaning more towards the sigma cause can use on film cameras

 

[THEMAN]

so no one knows the price? I am quite interested right now.

 

[melnjes]

Who is waiting for this lens?
1. HOCL
2. Sam_always
3. melnjes

 

[sam_always]

any idea when will it be available in singapore? thinking of gettting it for Mt.KK trip this april....

 

[kegler]

any idea when will it be available in singapore? thinking of gettting it for Mt.KK trip this april....

was at CP yesterday.... still no news for them.... Zzzz

 

[longman]

Who is waiting for this lens?
1. HOCL
2. Sam_always
3. melnjes
4. Longman

 

[nemesis32]

Who is waiting for this lens?
1. HOCL
2. Sam_always
3. melnjes
4. Longman
5. Nemesis32

:rbounce:

 

[ckbekeong]

Who is waiting for this lens?
1. HOCL
2. Sam_always
3. melnjes
4. Longman
5. Ckbekeong

 

[sam_always]

any news??

 

[THEMAN]

any news??

I've read that there is a 6 month backorder on the Tokina oh snap!