Ding Shan Ben
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just curious, why you want 2 cameras?
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Ding Shan Ben
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Gymrat76 said:
Oh I see.
Because I find have 2 bodies or more troublesome loh. Hee hee hee.
Somemore not enough space in dry cabinet... ...
Gymrat76 said:Hehe, no problem Ansel.
Anyone else got any opinions on the F80 vs. F100 vs. F5?
I must say that I've heard a lot of good things about the F5's matrix metering, so I'm sorely tempted to go for that, but I'm not sure if it'll be too overkill for what I shoot. I don't need the 8fps since I don't shoot sports or fast action (besides, slide film is expensive :sweat: ).
How is the battery life/consumption of the F5 vs the F100. How many shots/rolls on average before you need to recharge batteries?
Ok la... let me give u a rough estimate...
on a set of 08 x energizer 2300 Nimah batts, I manage to squeeze out about 30 - 38 rolls of film, mostly based on the CL setting, and normal AF usage. But do bear in mind that i shoot at colder temperatures. (still stuck in ang moh land.)
Well, there's never an "overkill" of a good thing, i believe.
Slide film is indeed expensive yes... but since you're starting out within the world of chromes, cost shouldn't be an issue. Just avoid the trigger-happiness bred by the usage of your dslr, compose your shots better, take note of the ambient lighting situations, and you'll be fine.
Ding Shan Ben
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F5user said:Ok la... let me give u a rough estimate...
on a set of 08 x energizer 2300 Nimah batts, I manage to squeeze out about 30 - 38 rolls of film, mostly based on the CL setting, and normal AF usage. But do bear in mind that i shoot at colder temperatures. (still stuck in ang moh land.)
Well, there's never an "overkill" of a good thing, i believe.
Slide film is indeed expensive yes... but since you're starting out within the world of chromes, cost shouldn't be an issue. Just avoid the trigger-happiness bred by the usage of your dslr, compose your shots better, take note of the ambient lighting situations, and you'll be fine.
with slides, I am sure he wun trigger happy!
I think with his VR, if "on" will drain more battery.
Gymrat76 said:Oh, one more thing: given the cost of film and the shutter life of pro bodies like the F5 (which should be in the tens of thousands, right?) is it safe to say that I wouldn't have to worry all that much about the shutter count when buying a 2nd hand F5? What else should I look out for? Thanks
Ok about shutter life, my first body (f5) which i've retired onto the shelf, has effectively seen 970 000 shots. Of course i sent it in regularly for servicing, but so far (touch wood) it's still operating as per factory specifications.
I believe the normal count for its shutter life is 150, 000 or slightly more, but the techs at nikon, when i sent the body down, said that the F5's auto shutter calibration is capable of extending its lifespan waaaay beyond its expectancy.
You want to play safe, buy the 2nd hand, send it down to Nikon for an inspection... Should be free, and they'll tell u the shutter count on the body.
Just my thoughts Gymrat76...
I would have progressed from film then on to digital following in my own personal journey in photography. I would most likely have started with a F80, moved on to a F100 or F5 then on to digital.
The reason is simply due to this reason. When you start shooting in film, you would be like scanner who would understand how does the camera read and capture light and then bring that knowledge to digital.
But if I were to do it all over again in your situation, I would buy a F80 because it is cheap and would enable me to do most of the shots that i would want to take. For example... AReality started off with digital and then bought a SLR camera. No doubt that it is like the cheapest in Canon's range, but he knew what he wanted the camera to do for him.
A F5 is a great camera, but would spending that kind of money be worth it? If I wanted to spend that kind of money, I would be waiting for the D100 replacement that would be coming out soon.
Just penning down my thoughts on your situation.
I would have progressed from film then on to digital following in my own personal journey in photography. I would most likely have started with a F80, moved on to a F100 or F5 then on to digital.
The reason is simply due to this reason. When you start shooting in film, you would be like scanner who would understand how does the camera read and capture light and then bring that knowledge to digital.
But if I were to do it all over again in your situation, I would buy a F80 because it is cheap and would enable me to do most of the shots that i would want to take. For example... AReality started off with digital and then bought a SLR camera. No doubt that it is like the cheapest in Canon's range, but he knew what he wanted the camera to do for him.
A F5 is a great camera, but would spending that kind of money be worth it? If I wanted to spend that kind of money, I would be waiting for the D100 replacement that would be coming out soon.
Just penning down my thoughts on your situation.
nightpiper
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i also recommend the F5. its possible for the F5 to have very high actuations w/o failing. i read a pc of news many months ago that there's a F5 owner who sent his cam for routine check, NSC found that his shutter has already passed the 1 million mark!! :bigeyes: can u imagine how many pics this guy shot?! :sweat:
besides the robust shutter, the changeable prism is another point to look into. u can change it to something that suits your subject. eg. macro, studio, product. if u r into such fields, this option can be very useful.
other things like built in vertical grip, CAM1300, weather seal, etc have been mentioned. u might want to check your biceps to see if weight is going to be an issue. :bsmilie:
happy shopping!!
besides the robust shutter, the changeable prism is another point to look into. u can change it to something that suits your subject. eg. macro, studio, product. if u r into such fields, this option can be very useful.
other things like built in vertical grip, CAM1300, weather seal, etc have been mentioned. u might want to check your biceps to see if weight is going to be an issue. :bsmilie:
happy shopping!!
Kimura_papaya
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Gymrat76 said:Hi Nikonians,
I'm in need of some advice on which film body to buy. I'm currently using the D70, but would like to venture into shooting film, so I need some advice on which film body would best complement my existing lenses. I need a body that is on which I can use my G lenses (no aperture ring), as well as VR. Preferably something with CAM1300, and is able to use a motor drive/vertical grip. I've been considering a second hand F100 or F5, and have been told that since the prices of these two are quite similar, I shoud just spring and get an F5. Some advice from film shooters would be great. Thanks
hi...just wish to advice u ...for film..f80D version is more than good enuff...spending on f100 would end up a waste. f80 itself has a lot of good feature even metering syste...in fact some very senior and skilful photographer..still using f80D body..it fit in G, D, VR lens..except DX lens...so u dont worry.
unless u have loads of $$ resource...then u may consider F5. F6 is too expensive to adventure..not worth.
i find that film to me still very practical to shoot...though is slightly expensive.
Kimura_papaya said:
Thanks for all the advice guys. I've read Thom Hogan's review on the F5 and F100, and I must say, I'm a bit doubtful after reading about all the problems with difficult-to-remember custom settings on the cams. Will check out more on the F80, thanks kimura.
What is the learning curve like for the F100 and F5? I'm talking strictly about getting familiar with the camera and its features, how to access menus etc. How long did it take you before you were familiar with using the cam comfortably?
nightpiper
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Gymrat76 said:
i also can't rem all those custom settings on my F80. what i did last time was to keep the manual inside my camera bag. when in doubt, just take it out for reference. :embrass: maybe i need mega memory (have u forgotten the no.?). :bsmilie:
F5.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
A lot of users have argued that the F100 removable grip is an advantage. Just thought i'd add my 2c worth on it though. I've used a d100, f100, Eos 1N, 1V, F5, D1H, 1D so i think i can safely say that i've used quite a lot of both removable and non removable grip cameras. Mount your 70-200 on a removable grip one, or better still a 300mm f2.8, and hold it by the grip and you will find it shaky i promise you. I've had lots of contact issues with the F100, D100 and 1V in particular in that the pins do not contact properly and is somewhat shaky. I think you will find a 2pc setup will always be slightly more unstable. I was amazed when the F6 was made as such.
Ansel
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szekiat said:
Er....excuse my ignorance, but I thought you should be holding the lens instead of the body when you mount such heavy lenses like you mentioned? Also, when you mount such a setup on the tripod you should be mounting it on the lens and not the body right? :dunno:
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