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blackdrakes
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Auto ISO can be disabled on D80 for manual mode.
I'm pretty sure it will be the same for the D90.
Thanks and I know that, but my point is when one choose to shoot in M mode, all the auto features should be disabled, including auto ISO. There should not be a need to disable auto ISO manually when shooting in M mode.
While you may not find a need, others do find it useful even more so for pros. That is why it is a feature even the D3 and D700 have it.
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chisiang
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While you may not find a need, others do find it useful even more so for pros. That is why it is a feature even the D3 and D700 have it.
exactly! The Auto ISO is very useful imo.
anyone speak German can translate this? :think:
Refer to this ... http://nikonrumors.com/2008/08/17/foto-magazin-scan.aspx#comment-1287206
Mod, please advise if it is appropriate to put link here. If not please delete this post. Thanks
yeah (the image was from there), but it doesn't actually have a translation... which was why I asked if anyone could translate
From http://babelfish.yahoo.com/. Doesn't seem too long, so I typed in the original text minus the special characters.. ;p (could have used an OCR engine but I don't have one.)
Nikons current Highend Vollformat camera D3 is primarily appropriate for low noise and high speed. The Auflosung of the 12-Megapixel-Sensors is sufficient fur most purposes vollig, but it exists also a market fur hohere Auflosung, which Nikon reliably Canon does not want to uberlassen in the long run. Referring to a D3x a firmware update already gave fur the D3, which Auflosungs gradated one with the Offnen in an editor from 6048 x 4032 pixels indicated, what more uber 24 megapixels corresponds some months ago, the Auflosung of the full format sensor angekundigten by Sony fur the autumn. Since Nikon and Sony co-operate traditionally with sensors, the assumption lies close that the D3x will use this sensor. The moreover one we expect a successor serve-valley-test Nikon D-SLR, the D80. The D90 aligned to the fastidious amateur was allowed high up-drawing CMOS sensor (probably 12 megapixels as in the D300) and from the other new Nikon the SLRs admitted functions sensor cleaning, Live View and active D-Lighting to bring along.
Here's the text I typed in case anyone wants to refine it..
Nikons aktuelle Highend-Vollformat-Kamera D3 ist in erster Linie auf niedriges Rauschen und hohe Geschwindigkeit ausgelegt. Die Auflosung des 12-Megapixel-Sensors reicht fur die meisten Zwecke vollig aus, doch es existiert auch ein Markt fur hohere Auflosung, den Nikon auf die Dauer sicher nicht Canon uberlassen will. Hinweise auf eine D3x gab bereits vor einigen Monaten ein Firmware-Update fur die D3, das beim Offnen in einem Editor eine Auflosungs-stufe von 6048 x 4032 Pixeln anzeigte, was uber 24 Megapixeln entspricht, der Auflosung des von Sony fur den Herbst angekundigten Vollformat-Sensors. Da Nikon und Sony traditionell bei Sensoren zusammenarbeiten, liegt die Vermutung nahe, dass die D3x diesen Sensor nutzen wird. Des Weiteren erwarten wir eine Nachfolgerin der dienstaltesten Nikon D-SLR, der D80. Die auf den anspruchsvollen Amateur ausgerichtete D90 durfte einen hoher auflosenden CMOS-Sensor (vermutlich 12 Megapixel wie in der D300) und die aus den anderen neuen Nikon SLRs bekannten Funktionen Sensorreinigung, Live-View und aktives D-Lighting mitbringen.
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yeah (the image was from there), but it doesn't actually have a translation... which was why I asked if anyone could translate
you have to read the comments
While you may not find a need, others do find it useful even more so for pros. That is why it is a feature even the D3 and D700 have it.
PE,
I might not have made my meaning clearer. While I certainly love the auto ISO in other modes like A, S etc, but not when I switch to manual mode. In my view, the auto ISO should be automaticaly disabled in M mode, because this is the time I want to manipulate exposure, yet the auto ISO would try to compensate the brightness.......of course I can go to menu and turn it off, but it is 麻烦 , it is why I regard auto ISO in M mode as a inconvenient feature, ..... of course I have to itterate, I love auto ISO...in all other modes.
Could you enlighten me why do the pros prefer to have auto ISO in M mode?
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The reason why many shoot in Manual Mode is to have control mainly over the Aperture and Speed. eg. achieve the control over the DOF at the same time to achieve a speed where no motion blur either by the subject or own.
Example in this scenario (commonly faced): Imagine in an event or PR shoot when the pace is fast and the shoot may transit from from outdoor to indoor or in an environment when the lighting condition changes at a fast pace.
In this scenerio, I just need to set my ISO to Auto and limited to 200 - 3200 (on D3) I now just need to worry about adjusting the speed and Aperture to achieve the DOF and/or speed to suit the vaying condition. Without the Auto ISO I have to compromise on either the speed or aperture when moving from a bright area to a dark area if the ISO is fixed at a constant eg 200 vice versa.
In the scenerio describe above the ISO to me is inconsequential cos the image I get is not going to be unusable at high ISO 3200, but it make my job easy fast and leave me to concentrate on getting the shots.
Anyway I have met a number of pros and press photog using Auto ISO in manual mode. Of course there are others who uses P mode, Aperture Priority etc it is preference.
You may ask why not use Aperture priority or Speed priority with Auto ISO, the difference is control of 2 of the 3 elements vs control of 1 of the 3 elements. ie Aperture, speed and ISO (ASA).
Of course in your preference you want to control everything you are not wrong but there is a mode to disable it which is actually a default mode (in D3 and D700, D2x and D200 not sure about others). So I really find it a non issue. But having it is a plus for many of us.
netidolweb
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if the rumour is true, its 27 which is 10 more days before launch;p , (if it is true):dunno:
10 more days, at the start of page 10wow!
if release on 27,
when on sale in SG?
Thanks PE for your detail explanation. I guess it is my limited shooting experience that I fail to appreciate the advantage of auto ISO in M mode.
Thanks once again.
I see, anyway it's easy to disable auto ISO on the camera.
In fact, auto ISO did saved by butt once, was covering a wedding as main photographer, using manual mode, and auto-ISO. During the couple's entrance, I've didn't tilt down the flash, and the pictures were underexposed. Luckily the auto-ISO help to boost up the exposure. :sweat:
PE also gave a good explanation and usage, thanks!
In fact, auto ISO did saved by butt once, was covering a wedding as main photographer, using manual mode, and auto-ISO. During the couple's entrance, I've didn't tilt down the flash, and the pictures were underexposed. Luckily the auto-ISO help to boost up the exposure. :sweat:
PE also gave a good explanation and usage, thanks!
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