kentwong81
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yeah, please show us your photos/evidence here so that we can check for you.
D7000 Discussion Thread III
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PaulKami
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Thanks 116520
I share the same sentiment to those of us who owns one, would engage in a discussion on the camera itself, rather than to bash (note the difference between the 2, even though it's closely similar). Btw, to add on, just take note of the jpg and raw difference. Jpg can be adjusted in the camera. If you want a richer photo, sure
If you want a sharper photo, sure It's jpg after all. Btw, what is the battery cover issue you're talking about? I could have missed it. For my battery cover, I don't find it an issue as it seemed to be tightly fit into its compartment. Never had a problem with it coming out.
Covering up however, is another question :bsmilie: I find myself having the need to 'PUSH' the battery cover back in place after replacing the battery, resulting in a loud TIAK. Other than that, no problem :bsmilie:
116520
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Mine is different... for the "TIAK" sound is not the problem and I prefer to have the "TIAK" sound because I know the cover it closed.
For my case, I put in the battery, close the cover and no sound at all. Sometime, it is closed and sometime it is not!!!! (I think the catch is too short)... I got to "shake" my camera a bit in order to make sure the cover is closed. Nothing big an issue... maybe some QC thingy... :embrass:
For my case, I put in the battery, close the cover and no sound at all. Sometime, it is closed and sometime it is not!!!! (I think the catch is too short)... I got to "shake" my camera a bit in order to make sure the cover is closed. Nothing big an issue... maybe some QC thingy... :embrass:
geraldkhoo
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Color reproduction is really a matter of preference, and a person's personal taste can change too. When I started out in digital photography with a D40x, I love saturated colors, but along the way, my tastes change, and when I look at the photos I took with my D40x, I find it too saturated. Today, I want skin tones to be as they really are... and I find with my D300, it has a bit more reds and I normally have to slightly desaturate the red.
As many have mentioned, JPEG images in the camera can be tweaked with the settings available... so just do some tweaking till you get the desired results you like. For me, I shoot in RAW and tweak in post-processing... and all my pics today go through some minor post-processing at least.
I asked a pro photog some years back what camera he used in his shots because I like the colors... and his answer to me is that it does not matter which camera because the colors he produced in his pics is from post-processing.
To me, colors straight out of the camera is not so much a concern because they can be tweaked in post processing... but the real issues that affect capturing a shot and the ability to post process the shot properly is important - e.g. AF speed and accurarcy, dynamic range.
As many have mentioned, JPEG images in the camera can be tweaked with the settings available... so just do some tweaking till you get the desired results you like. For me, I shoot in RAW and tweak in post-processing... and all my pics today go through some minor post-processing at least.
I asked a pro photog some years back what camera he used in his shots because I like the colors... and his answer to me is that it does not matter which camera because the colors he produced in his pics is from post-processing.
To me, colors straight out of the camera is not so much a concern because they can be tweaked in post processing... but the real issues that affect capturing a shot and the ability to post process the shot properly is important - e.g. AF speed and accurarcy, dynamic range.
PaulKami
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Really? Think you better bring it down for a check. Might be some QC thingy but could have been fixed with some 'screwing' and 'unscrewing' (I hope) XD
Thanks 116520
Btw, to add on, just take note of the jpg and raw difference. Jpg can be adjusted in the camera. If you want a richer photo, sure
Btw, what is the battery cover issue you're talking about? I could have missed it. For my battery cover, I don't find it an issue as it seemed to be tightly fit into its compartment. Never had a problem with it coming out.
Covering up however, is another question :bsmilie: I find myself having the need to 'PUSH' the battery cover back in place after replacing the battery, resulting in a loud TIAK. Other than that, no problem :bsmilie:
Hope that u don't misunderstand. I comment about the color Coz another person mentioned it, so I am just sharing my finding. I shoot raw+fine jpg. When I found the issue, I correct it using adobe camera raw. And I just make the comparison to d90. Dun think I am bashing on Nikon or Wat. It is just purely the find out from my photos and I would like to know how about the other people photos from d7000 about the color.
I tried vivid profile and do a bit of saturated fibe tune in camera after I find out that..
As I am shooting as my hobby, I looks at satisfaction as a very important factor. Somehow, d7000 photos can't really create the satisfaction Tat I got from my d90 previously. Anyway, just my personnal opinion, it might be due to I haven't get used to d7000 yet.
As for the battery cover, I think it is normal Coz there is a wheather shield rubber at the cover that causing u to feel that it is not closing well?
Peace.
Yes, your opinion counts... and we appreciate it
But not this...
You don't agree that you're bashing on Nikon for these 2 statement?
Alright, I agree that the 2 statements is a bit harsh. Maybe because I wrote Tat after being fedup doing touch up of many photos that previously don't need my attention at all.
Btw, one good news. NPS guy told me , they think that the firmware will be out around next week.
Hope it really solve the problem.
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PaulKami
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Thanks for clarification
As for firmware, it should be before Christmas from some rumours. After all, most of us will be taking photos in 'rather' low light situations throughout Christmas isn't it :bsmilie:
116520
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Oh... must be the rubber thing you mentioned that make it feel that way... my D70 doesn't have that kind of "feeling" when closing the cover...
jackychua, thanks for the firmware info... cheers! Just watch your words in any forums as people tends to be sensitive with words used in forum... it is different from chatting with friends as we can't tell when you're in good mood or bad mood or when you're joking or you're serious... :angel:
jackychua, thanks for the firmware info... cheers! Just watch your words in any forums as people tends to be sensitive with words used in forum... it is different from chatting with friends as we can't tell when you're in good mood or bad mood or when you're joking or you're serious... :angel:
You can check out DxOMark sensor comparison. D7000 has the edge there. I waited until DxOMark came out with their review before buying the camera.
On the color issue, be prepared to be disappointed when new sensors are introduced. A certain segment of users will be disappointed for sure. I bought X-Rite ColorChecker Passport to deal with this. If you think the D7K is a downgrade from your D90, by all means sell it and wait for the next D7K replacement. Its okay to criticize the camera for its shortcomings. Just move on and don't get stuck in sniping mode.
On the color issue, be prepared to be disappointed when new sensors are introduced. A certain segment of users will be disappointed for sure. I bought X-Rite ColorChecker Passport to deal with this. If you think the D7K is a downgrade from your D90, by all means sell it and wait for the next D7K replacement. Its okay to criticize the camera for its shortcomings. Just move on and don't get stuck in sniping mode.
Guys,
just one question on the color profile of D7000.
Is there any slots for saving customize color profile?
I am using the D300, and there is a few slots for me to setup my custom color instead of using the default vivid, neutral, etc...
I remember in D70, there is even 1 custom slot for me to create a custom shooting curve.
I read in reviews that there is the U1 & U2 function, not sure if it can record the custom color profile as well? But then if I use U1 or U2, what is the shooting mode going to be? M, A, S, or P?
Cheers.
just one question on the color profile of D7000.
Is there any slots for saving customize color profile?
I am using the D300, and there is a few slots for me to setup my custom color instead of using the default vivid, neutral, etc...
I remember in D70, there is even 1 custom slot for me to create a custom shooting curve.
I read in reviews that there is the U1 & U2 function, not sure if it can record the custom color profile as well? But then if I use U1 or U2, what is the shooting mode going to be? M, A, S, or P?
Cheers.
Ya.. Like I said.. The photos look like washed out on Colour..
Human complextion looks pale..
I tried vivid profile yesterday. Doesn't help much.
I got to edit majority of the photos in Photoshop.
I think I am about to give up d7k.
Nowander it doesn't deserve a gold award in dpreview.
If people asking me whether it worth upgrading to d7k from d90 for still photos, the answer is quite clear from me. It is a definitely a NO. Just my personnal oppinion..
Yes, your opinion counts... and we appreciate it
But not this...
You don't agree that you're bashing on Nikon for these 2 statement?
Bro, from my humble opinion, I don't think what wrong with bro Jacky's comment. Actually from his post of hotpixels onwards, I don't see anything wrong with his comments. He merely mentioning his opinion. Well, you see, there are a lot of positive and negative comment, we can choose to ignore. Not everything saying here are without certain extend of assumption. For your information, bro Jacky (from what I read) ONLY buying ONE D7000 out of don't know how many pieces of D7000 out there. It's not representing ALL.
In this case, Bro airbus380 asking for opinion and he replied yet get questioned? Why a public discussion forum becomes so personnel? :nono:
Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but to highlight the issue, and I wish to see this kind of "truth" and "fact" which can help a lot of interested buyers take into consideration. Hope you don't mind.
Just my 2 cents.
PaulKami
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It's a shame you can't see it. It is certain that we've our rights to comment indeed, however, there's a limit to it. If one cross that limit, then it is my rights to comment that he did. However, the whole idea is not about who's having right on speaking what, but rather, the responsibility to be rational at times. In this case of Nikon bashing cause of one's opinion is indeed regrettable. :dunno:
For your info, opinion aren't facts, and there's a law (defamation) to emphasize on that.
For your emphasize on his opinion on hot pixel, it's no longer a representation of merely 1 customer but majority. Nikon has acknowledge it and will be doing something about it. Time to move on
Is correcting someone's wrong perspective consider personnel I wonder. As you can see, most of us here are correcting him. And that's the truth and facts. What's yours?
Let me bring this quote again, "opinion aren't facts". As to say, having a genuine opinion of why this product doesn't deserve a gold award, or a genuine opinion on the worthiness of upgrading from D90 is encouraged. However, twisted 'facts' or indifference opinion (especially those that subject to each individual) are not welcomed :nono: You know what is 风凉话?
You can accept it, but not all of us do.
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It's a shame you can't see it. It is certain that we've our rights to comment indeed, however, there's a limit to it. If one cross that limit, then it is my rights to comment that he did. However, the whole idea is not about who's having right on speaking what, but rather, the responsibility to be rational at times. In this case of Nikon bashing cause of one's opinion is indeed regrettable. :dunno:
For your info, opinion aren't facts, and there's a law (defamation) to emphasize on that.
For your emphasize on his opinion on hot pixel, it's no longer a representation of merely 1 customer but majority. Nikon has acknowledge it and will be doing something about it. Time to move on
Is correcting someone's wrong perspective consider personnel I wonder. As you can see, most of us here are correcting him. And that's the truth and facts. What's yours?
Let me bring this quote again, "opinion aren't facts". As to say, having a genuine opinion of why this product doesn't deserve a gold award, or a genuine opinion on the worthiness of upgrading from D90 is encouraged. However, twisted 'facts' or indifference opinion (especially those that subject to each individual) are not welcomed :nono: You know what is 风凉话?
You can accept it, but not all of us do.
Correcting me? I hope that u got it right.
Actually I am lazy to voice out and comment anymore.
As u can see, I registered since 2006. I only post in marketplace to buy or sell equipment.
But at the same time, I am well aware of few types of person in the forum
Eg:
1) basher
2) people who speak their experience and really benefits others
3) neutral hobby photographer
4) pro brand hobby photographer
5) anti brand hobby photographer
6) ke po who set fire here and there
7) super pro who educate this and that, question this and that, correct this and that
8) people who keep quiet all the time
9) people who commenting everywhere..
10) etc etc
Everyone got their own point of view. No matter wat, some post will be harsh to other group, some in the favour. Nothing is right or wrong here.
Only thing is, u can proof whether something is right or wrong. And each group of the people just pick their interest.
There is no need to push someone to dead corner.
Everyone is adult, judge and take the advantage /knowledge, learn it, or forever in the same dead circle.
PaulKami
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My apology if my previous post sounded like I repeatedly pointing out your mistakes from your post previously. My post is meant to highlight the problems we have here in this very 3rd part of the thread, and that's senseless bashing, and why we should stop doing so, and to correct our fellow here who thinks senseless bashing actually helps.
On a personal note, I'm rather sickened by the amount of bashing here that leads to nowhere (how many of you here feel so too?). Sure, there is a problem, sure, let's talk it out and see if we can solve this issue together, sure. However, having comments such as "Guys, don't buy it!", "Nikon is going down the drain with this products" (of course, those words are not the exact word used, it's just a representation), where will we go from here? One bunch of D7000 owner go to NSC to protest? Or this thread will lead to at least 7 parts of nothing but bashing of Nikon, D7000 and possibly the upcoming firmware not working in a way so much you feel like destroying your D7000? :bsmilie:
And I disagree, there's bound to be right or wrong. It's whether you wish to develop this place; into a place where the right educate with tactfulness, the wrong accepts and move on, everyone discussed in a healthy yet firm (straight to the point) on issues; or a place where everyone starts bashing each other cause I don't like your ideas or you don't like mine, and end up 3 threads of nothingness. That'd be meaningless.
We're talking as an adult, and not merely based on who join when and what. It doesn't matter if one joined earlier or later, it's the topic itself that counts. :angel: Instead of saying stuffs like "I HATE NIKON BECAUSE OF THIS PRODUCT", let's move on with D7000 and talk D7000 itself shall we?
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I think it is clear that I am not bashing at all. I am not the only owners around the world who voice out the issues. The real basher is the guy from this forum who registered a new nick and bark @ other forum which discussing constructively on how to handle or solve the issue.
O yeah, he should know who am I talking about ya?
no need to point him out.Anyway. Since it is so tough to share common issues over here, there should be some problem going on. one thing i should say is, I am just sharing and commenting based on facts.
But dun worry, as long as I keep quiet again from thus point onward, at least it will be little bit lesser noise.
Actually I just need to keep in touch with nps with my issue, telling other people about these is not my responsibility and none of my business.
So I would say, keep quiet is better solution for here.
I can still share with joy with other members around the world, other forums.
Cheers and the world is peace. Life still going on. This is Wat a human should enjoy rather then fighting for right or wrong, winner or loser?
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PaulKami
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I think it is clear that I am not bashing at all. I am not the only owners around the world who voice out the issues. The real basher is the guy from this forum who registered a new nick and bark @ other forum which discussing constructively on how to handle or solve the issue.
O yeah, he should know who am I talking about ya?
Anyway. Since it is so tough to share common issues over here, there should be some problem going on.
But dun worry, as long as I keep quiet again from thus point onward, at least it will be little bit lesser noise.
Actually I just need to keep in touch with nps with my issue, telling other people about these is not my responsibility and none of my business.
So I would say, keep quiet is better solution for here.
I can still share with joy with other members around the world, other forums.
Cheers and the world is peace. Life still going on. This is Wat a human should enjoy rather then fighting for right or wrong, winner or loser?
Well, you misunderstood me here ^_^;; Nevertheless, I can compress my entire previous post into these sentences, "Keep those personal comments to yourself, it won't help telling everyone about it" & "Keep posting, but post responsibly".
Anyway, I agree that life still goes on. After talking so much like some quarrel, I think it's best to just meet up with each other, stare at each other, turn away, walk away, and at the count of 3, whip out our D7000 and shoot on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcuCKJDIO2U&feature=related
Agree or disagree, photography is our passion anyway, not specifications
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Let me bring this quote again, "opinion aren't facts". As to say, having a genuine opinion of why this product doesn't deserve a gold award, or a genuine opinion on the worthiness of upgrading from D90 is encouraged. However, twisted 'facts' or indifference opinion (especially those that subject to each individual) are not welcomed :nono: You know what is 风凉话?
You can accept it, but not all of us do.
Bro, you win. I only wish to get useful information here, not getting into flame wars.
By the way, in case you don't understand, let's put in these ways:
(hope you can calm down and rethink about my opinion)
Mr Jackychua is currently having 1/ 200,000 pieces of D7000 (let's say) available in the market currently. He is saying from his point of view, what he thinks of his copy out of that 200,000 pieces of D7000. I do not see in any way, he purchased more than ONE copy (or two?). So, how can his saying representing significant % of the D7000 in the market? He is not saying or representing significant % of Nikon D7000 copies in the market. So, I do not see what's wrong with that. And I do not think Bro Chua is powerful enough that whatever he says is true? If you do not like it, maybe you can try to ignore it. If not, please do us a favor, there are a lot of westerners in Dpreview forums, help us to correct them and I think that they are very happy to entertain you there and you can get very bombard responses there.
I am pretty sure that most of the forumners here are wise enough to differentiate right or wrong here.
Another scenario is:
What do you think of the colour "black"? Different people has different idea/view/opinion about "black". So, if one dislike this colour, should he/she be questioned so badly? It's a personal taste thing.
Or rather simple one. Lets say you like certain food. Then there is this guy, he/she is one OUT of many consumers out there. He/she has bad comment about the food. Will this point of views be so crucial?
I don't against fanboy thread here but if you one of them, be the forum's guest!
Also recommend you to listen to Gold 90.5 FM, you will be very much happier listen to this radio stations broadcast. My personal point of view is that most of the DSLR owners actually are victims of DSLR products (never mind if difficult to understand at current stage).
ps: I wish to post only when it's necessary, there is no other way I am related to Mr Jackychua.
I encountered something similar with the lack of a "Tiak", until I changed the way i closed the cover. Initially, when I used my thumb which covered a larger area of the cover, there isn't any sound so I tend to push it a little harder to ensure it is closed. I found that if I close the cover using just one finger on the 2 little humps on either side the cover, I get a nice "TIAK" sound indicating it is closed.
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