D5 in first quarter 2016... shall see.


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With D5 out, will we be seeing a DFs ?!! hahaa

Don't think so because like the D750 and D7200, the Df was also not mention in the recent announcement leh ...
 

Don't think so because like the D750 and D7200, the Df was also not mention in the recent announcement leh ...

Ya dun think Dfs or Df2 will be out so soon ba. Probably end 2016 or early 2017 maybe.
 

I doubt there will ever be a successor to the Nikon DF. It was a nice experiment but not worth repeating the same styling theme.
 

Otherwise before they reach D6 or D7, they might close down business because while they slowly make incremental changes on things that doesn't matter, like FPS or super ISO, or the cumbersome super MP, game changers like mobile device companies and social media are constantly making consumer friendly products.

Even Sony find human faces and auto focus and tracks it.

Whats wrong with you Nikon?
do you have any basis to claim that FPS or super ISO does not matter in the professional world of photography?
 

We have ALWAYS have the choice to buy or not buy. Does not matter if Nikon goes bankrupt not listening to anyone for that matter. We just buy what fit our use or as close as we can get it within our budget. No use asking for things and then it comes out and it is too expensive for your wallet and then there is again another thing to yakety yaki again. Use what you already bought and go shoot. The only real person who has any reason or right to make demands are people holding on to Nikon shares and just want their value to go up. heh.

The gear we are using now are already 10 times or more better then the best gear 20 years ago and even with those kind of gear, there are people shooting great shots with them. With what you already have... almost nothing is impossible to shoot but the most demanding. How many here has reached that stage yet? heheh
 

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The gear we are using now are already 10 times or more better then the best gear 20 years ago and even with those kind of gear, there are people shooting great shots with them. With what you already have... almost nothing is impossible to shoot but the most demanding. How many here has reached that stage yet? heheh
Well said.
 

some of my most memorable shots are done on a D70
 

Nikon has offered no technical information about the D5, but given its position in the market and current technologies, it seems likely that the D5 will have a new sensor, improved continuous shooting performance and tweaks to the autofocus system. These will be the three key areas for its target audience.

The existing 16 megapixel resolution might not sound much by today's standards, but it's easily enough for regular commercial print and magazine usage and it does keep processing overheads to a minimum – a major factor in maintaining high shooting speeds. If Nikon does decide to increase the resolution to, say, 24 megapixels (it's used 24-megapixel sensors already in its full-frame cameras) then it will need to boost the camera's processing power to cope.

This could mean a new generation 'Expeed 6' image processor, and this could also signal improvements in high-ISO noise control to maintain the low-light reputation of the D4S with the higher pixel count.

It seems likely Nikon will also improve the continuous shooting speed from the current 11fps maximum, though we would expect only a small improvement here – it's likely that full-frame DSLR mirror/shutter mechanisms are already at or near their maximum operating speed.

There's no word yet on any upgrades to the autofocus system. Nikon's 51-point AF module has been around for a few years, but a process of steady development has kept it right at the forefront for subject acquisition and tracking moving subjects.
 

my guess is that Nikon will jump into the 4K video bandwagon
 

my guess is that Nikon will jump into the 4K video bandwagon

Maybe Nikon will improve their AF to cover the whole frame/screen instead of just limited to the centre ?
 

Maybe Nikon will improve their AF to cover the whole frame/screen instead of just limited to the centre ?

I personally prefer to use less AF points, normally in the centre, but I am old school
 

I personally prefer to use less AF points, normally in the centre, but I am old school

Its called a D5.. aptly, it should just have 5 af points.. in a cross.. but if they wanna do it in an X shape.. it be fun :)

(I still remember my first digital SLR, the d70.. i think that one had 5 af points only.. and i was soo happy)
 

I personally prefer to use less AF points, normally in the centre, but I am old school

May I know why is that so ? why don't you like more choices ?

What if you want to focus on something that is out from the centre ?

Thanks
 

I will not answer for Mr. Ortega but I would like to say how I have my camera set up. So basically I use one point in center...choose spot I want in focus for sure...hold trigger halfway and then recompose. Camera is set such that once I have initial focus locked I can float viewfinder anywhere and that one spot will always stay in focus. However I don't use AF that much so... :)
 

I personally prefer to use less AF points, normally in the centre, but I am old school

The MAIN reason (albeit a few other less crucial ones) why anyone would want a full screen of AF points is if you shoot sports with fast movement of subject running across the framed composition on the subject.. just so it is able to track in real time the moving object as you shoot multiple exposure shots. to want as much AF points like the new Sony A7II is only good if you are someone who shoots moving subject majority of the time and need total tracking capability when ever the subject move. But even with such a full screen of AF points there are fallacies as tracking can still be lost, confused by another moving object or partial overlap and as you also pan along with the subject. It's not perfect science and why need more if most have no need for it. In fact to leave your full AF on all the time will frustrate any shooter more then they are happy to leave it on.

I can imagine most newbies and even serious shooter that might like to see more AF points. But how many really know why they need more? Those who frame a their shot and use their button cursor to click-move the AF point(s) to an off center subject looking thru their viewfinder. And maybe later forgot to center it back. To me a rather slow and unproductive way to set and choose your focal point.

For a long time, I have given that bad habit up along with using that half-press shutter button mode to acquire my focusing and then recompose. Sometime you press too hard it fires or too light you release the AF hold and you need to refocus again. Unproductive. I make sure the DSLR I buy has a rear AF button. To me, that is the single most important feature to have for shooting. I use that to set all my AF and then after that, i just compose the scene and fire. Knowing full well, I am always in focus right where I want it to be especially if I am shooting in shallow DOF.

This kind of shooting is about 90% to 100% of the time of most shooters. The AF multi-point system is a dumb instrument with a limitation of per-programmed function. It does not think outside of it's parameters. If you have people or objects at various distances in your frame shot, where do you think that AF will focus for sure? Okay your camera has smiley face mode, but which one should it choose if you are focusing on one in particular for example?

How many of you have ever had AF change focus at the last moment you click the shutter? This can happen if someone move in front of your subject or something moving and the AF try to track it. even shooting a bunch of kids moving about and you have a full screen of AF points will do you no good. heh How many after they go home and look at the photos full size on your screen and saw, your subject was slightly blur or totally out of focus as the AF choose to focus on something else nearby.

Since changing to exclusively using only the rear AF as my only focusing tool, I got more sharper and better focus shots. The only time I have use multiple AF points on my DSLRs are for fast moving subjects situation that move across my framed shot and even on my D4 it does not always get it right. And even then you need to pre-select so many AF focus conditions before you use it. If you have no idea what I am talking about, go check out some YouTube videos on setting up how your AF works on various moving scenes. heh. Having more tools for the sake of more is not what make you a better photographer. You have to know why and when you need to use it and when not to. You don't expect or demand for the sake of wanting more features and then try to justify a use for it especially when there are already better and simpler way of doing it already with existing features or tools. Maybe that is why Nikon is slow to introduce a full screen of AF points so far.

But that's just me.
 

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The MAIN reason (albeit a few other less crucial ones) why anyone would want a full screen of AF points is if you shoot sports with fast movement of subject running across the framed composition on the subject.. just so it is able to track in real time the moving object as you shoot multiple exposure shots. to want as much AF points like the new Sony A7II is only good if you are someone who shoots moving subject majority of the time and need total tracking capability when ever the subject move. But even with such a full screen of AP points there are fallacies as tracking can still be lost, confused by another moving object or partial overlap and as you also pan along with the subject. It's not perfect science and why need more if most have no need for it. In fact to leave your full AF on all the time will frustrate any shooter more then they are happy to leave it on.

I can imagine most newbies and even serious shooter that might like to see more AF points. But how many really know why they need more? Those who frame a their shot and use their button cursor to click-move the AF point(s) to an off center subject looking thru their viewfinder. And maybe later forgot to center it back. To me a rather slow and unproductive way to set and choose your focal point.

Agree on the use of multi-AF for sports.. I shoot birds once in awhile, and do use the tracking for bird in flight, and having tested the A7R2 (with its 399 points), its never enough points..

For me, focusing with center point was just an old habit from the earlier days of split-prism manual-focus. Having an AF-ON button made the transition easier.

I still don't get why the D600/D750 didn't have a dedicated AF-ON button though. (Used my friend's D700 before, and when i got my own D600 for budget reasons, i was so disappointed in the lack of AF-ON..)
 

I've heard BBF is great for BIF so therefore good for action...I also believe it can be set up one point af lock and then it tracks subject/object point locked on (these newer rigs getting real smart someday be able to track whole flock of geese by individual bird haha)...I am not action shooter so I don't know for sure.

There are reasons I do not use BBF but I forgot why...haha

Sammy...you and me good at drifting off topic and writing novels bro but if someone is enlightened it is worth it. :D
 

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I've heard BBF is great for BIF so therefore good for action...I also believe it can be set up one point af lock and then it tracks subject/object point locked on (these newer rigs getting real smart someday be able to track whole flock of geese by individual bird haha)...I am not action shooter so I don't know for sure.

There are reasons I do not use BBF but I forgot why...haha

Sammy...you and me good at drifting off topic and writing novels bro but if someone is enlightened it is worth it. :D

BBF = Black Berry Fone. :D :D :D
 

That would be back button focus...ahem... :bsmilie::bsmilie:
 

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