D3X tomorrow arrive...


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Don't wait.

Both prices have dropped a lot.

Go GO Go ... buy them now ... fullfil your lust :cool:

compare to the first batch, yes. but i think they have not really reduced the price significantly yet... i checked yesterday... :cry:
 

chngepe,

can u please tell me more about the aptus leaf?heard alot about it.

u need to apply for J-sponsorship.:bsmilie:
 

i no $lah.
recession wor...

lsisaxon and chngepe sure buy one lah.
then they will give their d3 to ortega.:bsmilie:

No, can't afford. ;p Recession lah.. Might need to find another job in 2009. ;p
 

chngepe,

can u please tell me more about the aptus leaf?heard alot about it.

u need to apply for J-sponsorship.:bsmilie:


Sorry cannot say too much of how good it is cos this is Nikon Forum else I have to infract myself for OT and offend my friends in Nikon SG.

Suffice to say that you can take a look here
http://www.leaf-photography.com/

or contact
Samuel Tan Cathay Photo 6338 0451 for a demo of the aptus at your place. He has some competitive pricing for the Aptus II series bundled with Mamiya 645AFDIII

or if you are interested in Hassy and the Digital back

http://www.shriro.com.sg/camera.htm

Call Denis Lim
Sales Manager
Photographic Division
Shriro(Singapore)Pte. Ltd
DID: 65088130
HP : 90030430

call him and drop by Shriro he will be able to demo it for you.


Once you see the output from the med format esp in a studio environment the D3x is nothing to rave about. However to be fair, the noise level of med format cannot make it beyond iso 200 (in fact almost all will shoot max 100) Hence a good outdoor camera is still the 35mm format, (where at times a higher iso is needed) this is where I think D3x will shine.
 

please pm for trying out my d3x sponsored by jeanie.

:bsmilie: :bsmilie:
 

Sorry cannot say too much of how good it is cos this is Nikon Forum else I have to infract myself for OT and offend my friends in Nikon SG.
:bigeyes: Hahaha.. This is funny.. ;p
 

S$12K???!!!?? really beyond my budget. WIll prob get D700 instead. Nikon.........yr pricing really SCREWED UP big time. Hope u do better next round.
 

I was reading ken rockwell's review of the camera, i was slightly taken aback but I have to agree with him. The D3x is quite the disappointment. Overpriced and weaker features than the D3 is quite a turn off. I quote Ken, "Today, the D3X offers no improvements over the D3, in fact, it's worse than the D700 and D90 since it still is the same as the older D3. I was at least hoping Nikon would add the better controls of the D90 and D700 in the D3X, but they totally missed this boat.".

I think I will stick to my D3.
 

I was reading ken rockwell's review of the camera, i was slightly taken aback but I have to agree with him. The D3x is quite the disappointment. Overpriced and weaker features than the D3 is quite a turn off. I quote Ken, "Today, the D3X offers no improvements over the D3, in fact, it's worse than the D700 and D90 since it still is the same as the older D3. I was at least hoping Nikon would add the better controls of the D90 and D700 in the D3X, but they totally missed this boat.".

I think I will stick to my D3.

ken is special

he dont need d3x..+ ps will do fine
 

wonder why ppl are surprized/disappointed at pricing... it is roughly the same pricing as its direct competitor what... that's what I thought the pricing would be headed, at least at launch...

and if jeanie is interested at medium format, can also call Seng Fai of Ruby Imaging, the dealer of Phase One products in Singapore, at 62568260... ask for the P65+ :angel:... sorry for OT... :embrass:
 

Hi guys, imaging-resource has posted some lab shots of the D3x.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1230056708.html

The high ISO shots looks quite good. At least quite a bit better than the A900, which was rumored to use the same sensors but was insistently denied by Nikon. It seems like Nikon may be telling the truth after all :D

I would think the ISO 6400 quality is pretty good... having more luminance noise than chroma noise in the 5DmkII which makes it more film-like but somehow I feel there may be a bit less less subtle details than the Canon....

but I am not a pro like you guys...you may have different opinions :D
 

So who is using their own money to buy........and who is the lucky ones using their daddy's money to buy a D3x.:sticktong
 

Hi guys, imaging-resource has posted some lab shots of the D3x.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1230056708.html

The high ISO shots looks quite good. At least quite a bit better than the A900, which was rumored to use the same sensors but was insistently denied by Nikon. It seems like Nikon may be telling the truth after all :D

I would think the ISO 6400 quality is pretty good... having more luminance noise than chroma noise in the 5DmkII which makes it more film-like but somehow I feel there may be a bit less less subtle details than the Canon....

but I am not a pro like you guys...you may have different opinions :D

It was designed by Nikon , manufactured by instruction by Sony , wonder how that even be possible... Anyways the a900 only 4k leh. And its not sonys pro body, their pro body not out yet.
 

S$12K???!!!?? really beyond my budget. WIll prob get D700 instead. Nikon.........yr pricing really SCREWED UP big time. Hope u do better next round.
Dunno if Nikon has taken into account the BiG recession when they do their pricing. It's a matter of how soon they wanna to recoup their R&D cost and also, how soon they wanna to launch their next model or whether they wanna to use the profit from other products to fund this one, etc........

One thing for sure is that this is not a volume seller.
 

the thing is that Nikon can't reduce the launch price just because of the recession... if they do that now, this category of product will always be stuck at the lower launch price... its a part of market segmentalization, like it or not... if they have a D4X in the future, even if the economy is booming, they would also have to launch at the lower price point if that's what they do for the D3X in a recession, or otherwise people are gonna kick up an even bigger fuss...

like I mentioned in the previous post in this thread, Nikon are merely mirroring its competition's price point for the same category... but what they might do if sales are slow is they might cut prices earlier...
 

the thing is that Nikon can't reduce the launch price just because of the recession... if they do that now, this category of product will always be stuck at the lower launch price... its a part of market segmentalization, like it or not... if they have a D4X in the future, even if the economy is booming, they would also have to launch at the lower price point if that's what they do for the D3X in a recession, or otherwise people are gonna kick up an even bigger fuss...

like I mentioned in the previous post in this thread, Nikon are merely mirroring its competition's price point for the same category... but what they might do if sales are slow is they might cut prices earlier...

Not entirely true that they have to maintain the launch price thru the years at all cost.

The D1 launch price and the D3 launch price was miles apart.

Just because the competition price their similar product a few years back at that price, does not means Nikon must follow rigidly.


I am sure you understand that Pricing as part of Marketing depends on many factors amongst which

1. Recession means less spending (not consumer but comapnies) means lesser demand at that price point. Cost is always the bottomline of any companies not the brand, brand loyalty goes as much as the $ can stretch.

2. There are already existing cameras that fulfill about 80%(est) of what the D3X can do, at about 30-40% of the price. Hence there is no monopoly of product at that segment

3. Nikon is a few years behind its competitor for the same type of product and segment. Hence to set the price of D3x based on what the competitor set a few years back when market demands and conditions were different back then, is naive (in my opinion). Back then Canon 1Ds enjoy near monopoly of the full frame and even higher MP, ISO than Nikon. (The nearest competitor in full frame is Kodak). Not to say there was not even any competitor offering 70-80% of what they had at 30-40% of the price.

4. The segment which you are talking about was already cornered by Canon with the launch of the 1Ds a few years back, with many professional photog (in that segment) switching over from Nikon. Hence to take back what is lost (not to mention trying to wrestle over dominance of that segment, the D3X must be so revolutionary (like the D3) that ppl are willing to switch over at the same price. Or they(the photog) will be grossly be disadvantage by the advance technology, that the D3X offer. However, sad to say the D3X is not even a visible leap(not close to quantum leap) over its competitors (which was able to produce earlier) nor it has any price competitive edge.

The bottomline is that one cannot "mirror price point" blindly, there are more factors to consider. While pricing is only one component of Marketing its is certainly a very important one.


I think the disappointment is not the price but the Marketing strategy of Nikon. It looks like they are still in cloud 9 when the rest of the world has landed.

if they have a D4X in the future, even if the economy is booming, they would also have to launch at the lower price point if that's what they do for the D3X in a recession, or otherwise people are gonna kick up an even bigger fuss...

Lastly, no use for them to stick to their price rigidity and dream of ever launching a D4x, if they cannot survive this downturn (the worst since the Great Depression) - just look at what Toyota if facing now.
 

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For those hoping for a huge price drop, what kind of signal would that nikon be giving , all those who buy in the begining will be pissed off.
 

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