[ closed ] Olympus Announces its latest Micro4/3 camera and lenses - OM-D

[Fezqu]

Hi guys, not sure whether someone posted this or not? Test made in dpreview, Olympus OM-D E-M5 Hands-on Preview: Digital Photography Review

Seems like the ISO is Quite on par with my D7000. It even beat nex 5n in some area and hold its ground with nex 7.

 

[anhyeuem]

yes, double confirmed with SLRR & Parisilk, unless they both pull fast one on me not sure of the speed of card though

Wow can only dream it's the 45MBs...thanks for the info.

 

[KTi]

Hi guys, not sure whether someone posted this or not? Test made in dpreview, Olympus OM-D E-M5 Hands-on Preview: Digital Photography Review

Seems like the ISO is Quite on par with my D7000. It even beat nex 5n in some area and hold its ground with nex 7.

Even putting FF camera like the D700, the E-M5 is not too shabby man. I am so looking forward to getting mine. Luckily I managed to ore ordered a silver body.

 

[rhema83]

Woo, ditching my d7000 for m4/3. Time is good for m4/3 cameras.

Panasonic manage to squeeze 16mp in the sensor and demonstrate the IQ is good. Assuming the em-5 also have the same chip.

Whats more? Either brands can use each other lenses, Leica for panny, nice oly lenses as well and the m4/3 mount noktor lens.

Are you referring to the Voigtlander Noktons or the SLR Magic Noktor? The former are produced by venerable Cosina, while the latter are produced by a little-known upstart which used to convert CCTV and toy lenses into m4/3 mount.

 

[dereth]

ahhh...

order from malaysia and got photo shoot with sorella...
sorella is ladies' undergarmet brand i think....

Correct.

Interesting free gift...

 

[Fezqu]

Hi yes, typo. Nokton yup.

 

[zapp!]

Quite impressed with the production samples seen at dpreview. Looking forward to get my EM-5.

 

[Oly5050]

Hi guys, not sure whether someone posted this or not? Test made in dpreview, Olympus OM-D E-M5 Hands-on Preview: Digital Photography Review

Seems like the ISO is Quite on par with my D7000. It even beat nex 5n in some area and hold its ground with nex 7.

Hmmm...must say its very good. At ISO 200 and ISO 1600. Comparable to nex7.
I also compared the E5 to the EPL3, EP3 and E-M5. The E5 was the worst!
Olympus OM-D E-M5 Hands-on Preview: Digital Photography Review

That's good info for me. I know now which camera and lens not to pack for travel now. Hehe.

 

[MichaelLee]

Hmmm...must say its very good. At ISO 200 and ISO 1600. Comparable to nex7.
I also compared the E5 to the EPL3, EP3 and E-M5. The E5 was the worst!
Olympus OM-D E-M5 Hands-on Preview: Digital Photography Review

indeed I am very impressed with the result. it is huge improvement when you compared with previous 12mp EP series.
up to ISO1600, it is a close match with Nex5N. let's not forget with a cam has no IS to shot at ISO1600, OMD could do it at ISO1000 because of 5axis IS.

 

[zapp!]

Interestingly enough, if u read the comments at dpreview they are saying oly "cheated" cos they exaggerated their their ISO ratings. i.e. Oly EM-5 ISO 6400 is actually 2/3 stops lower ~ISO 4000 hence thats why the image looks "cleaner" as compared to ISO 6400 fr other cameras. But IMO, as long as the final outcome is good, i am not really concerned about the arguments

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Oly is overstating ISO - that's one reason why the results look so impressive.

The German website digitalkamera (dot) de tested the M5's ISO capabilities and concluded that it does not shoot at ISO 200-25,600, but actually at ISO 120-14,200. In other words, Oly is exaggerating by 2/3 of a stop.

What that means is that if you want to compare an M5 image shot at 3200 with an image from another camera, it is fairer to compare it with a 1600 image, assuming that the manufacturer of the other camera hasn't also told a big fib.

The Germans did find that the M5 has very good dynamic range - around 11 stops at ISO 1600, dropping to 8 stops at 25,600. Presumably the dynamic range is even better at lower ISOs.

 

[cichlid]

Long time didnt visit M4/3 thread, can someone let me know how much is it, body alone and with the kit lens. Can spoon feed me? haha, thanks!

 

[esoeij]

Long time didnt visit M4/3 thread, can someone let me know how much is it, body alone and with the kit lens. Can spoon feed me? haha, thanks!

Ask and ye shall receive...Not sure if there are any updates, but this is roughly what I recall from what I've read in the EM-5 threads.

Cash Price with 12-50 Kit
SLRR - $1695
TK - $1720
MSC - $1710

 

[wonglp]

Ask and ye shall receive...Not sure if there are any updates, but this is roughly what I recall from what I've read in the EM-5 threads.

Cash Price with 12-50 Kit
SLRR - $1695
TK - $1720
MSC - $1710

Too add on:
Pre-order gets either MMF3 (weatherproof adapter), or 32GB extreme from oly service centre. In box has a 16GB, not sure speed. First batch 3rd week April it seems, and 1st wk May 2nd batch.

 

[Fezqu]

Ask and ye shall receive...Not sure if there are any updates, but this is roughly what I recall from what I've read in the EM-5 threads.

Cash Price with 12-50 Kit
SLRR - $1695
TK - $1720
MSC - $1710

Wah, Cathay selling 1800+ with the kit. Anyway I went and check about noktor, their lens received pretty good review and much cheaper than nokton equivalent.

 

[Fezqu]

Interestingly enough, if u read the comments at dpreview they are saying oly "cheated" cos they exaggerated their their ISO ratings. i.e. Oly EM-5 ISO 6400 is actually 2/3 stops lower ~ISO 4000 hence thats why the image looks "cleaner" as compared to ISO 6400 fr other cameras. But IMO, as long as the final outcome is good, i am not really concerned about the arguments

Quote:

Oly is overstating ISO - that's one reason why the results look so impressive.

The German website digitalkamera (dot) de tested the M5's ISO capabilities and concluded that it does not shoot at ISO 200-25,600, but actually at ISO 120-14,200. In other words, Oly is exaggerating by 2/3 of a stop.

What that means is that if you want to compare an M5 image shot at 3200 with an image from another camera, it is fairer to compare it with a 1600 image, assuming that the manufacturer of the other camera hasn't also told a big fib.

The Germans did find that the M5 has very good dynamic range - around 11 stops at ISO 1600, dropping to 8 stops at 25,600. Presumably the dynamic range is even better at lower ISOs.

Not sure if I read your post correctly. Getting ISO 4000 performance at ISO 6400. Isn't it good? I tried comparing the D7000 sample with the em 5 and they look pretty similar, the m5 seems to have a slight edge. Even if it doesn't, it's enough for me to ditch my heavy D7000 + lens for the em 5.

Planning to get the f0.95 lens from nokton. With that i don't think I need to pump up to 6400. Haha. Anyway can share lenses with my girl's ep-3 of course I buy she use

 

[cichlid]

Ask and ye shall receive...Not sure if there are any updates, but this is roughly what I recall from what I've read in the EM-5 threads.

Cash Price with 12-50 Kit
SLRR - $1695
TK - $1720
MSC - $1710

Too add on:
Pre-order gets either MMF3 (weatherproof adapter), or 32GB extreme from oly service centre. In box has a 16GB, not sure speed. First batch 3rd week April it seems, and 1st wk May 2nd batch.

Wah, Cathay selling 1800+ with the kit. Anyway I went and check about noktor, their lens received pretty good review and much cheaper than nokton equivalent.

Thanks guys!

 

[Oly5050]

Interestingly enough, if u read the comments at dpreview they are saying oly "cheated" cos they exaggerated their their ISO ratings. i.e. Oly EM-5 ISO 6400 is actually 2/3 stops lower ~ISO 4000 hence thats why the image looks "cleaner" as compared to ISO 6400 fr other cameras. But IMO, as long as the final outcome is good, i am not really concerned about the arguments

Quote:

Oly is overstating ISO - that's one reason why the results look so impressive.

The German website digitalkamera (dot) de tested the M5's ISO capabilities and concluded that it does not shoot at ISO 200-25,600, but actually at ISO 120-14,200. In other words, Oly is exaggerating by 2/3 of a stop.

What that means is that if you want to compare an M5 image shot at 3200 with an image from another camera, it is fairer to compare it with a 1600 image, assuming that the manufacturer of the other camera hasn't also told a big fib.

The Germans did find that the M5 has very good dynamic range - around 11 stops at ISO 1600, dropping to 8 stops at 25,600. Presumably the dynamic range is even better at lower ISOs.

So that means their iso 6400 is actually iso 4000? So did they say how they do it?

 

[rhema83]

Not sure if I read your post correctly. Getting ISO 4000 performance at ISO 6400. Isn't it good? I tried comparing the D7000 sample with the em 5 and they look pretty similar, the m5 seems to have a slight edge. Even if it doesn't, it's enough for me to ditch my heavy D7000 + lens for the em 5.

Planning to get the f0.95 lens from nokton. With that i don't think I need to pump up to 6400. Haha. Anyway can share lenses with my girl's ep-3 of course I buy she use

No I think it means that the E-M5's ISO 6400 only has the light sensitivity of ISO 4000. Which is good news somewhat because we were all concerned about its minimum ISO of 200 and the maximum shutter speed limit of 1/4000s. A lower "real" minimum is far more important than the maximum.

 

[fengwei]

Even putting FF camera like the D700, the E-M5 is not too shabby man. I am so looking forward to getting mine. Luckily I managed to ore ordered a silver body.

But if you compare E-M5 w Pany G1x and G3, you'd see their ISO performance is about the same, w E-M5 slightly better at ISO3200 and above, but not really too much different anyway. Especially if it's true that E-M5's ISO is actually less sensitive than what it says.

At higher ISO (1600 and above), their details in shadow just can't compare with D7000 or K5. As to noise level, even at ISO 200 you can see some noise under shadow in E-M5 photos, same as G3 which I've been using.

 

[PsychoV]

Not sure if I read your post correctly. Getting ISO 4000 performance at ISO 6400. Isn't it good? I tried comparing the D7000 sample with the em 5 and they look pretty similar, the m5 seems to have a slight edge. Even if it doesn't, it's enough for me to ditch my heavy D7000 + lens for the em 5.

Planning to get the f0.95 lens from nokton. With that i don't think I need to pump up to 6400. Haha. Anyway can share lenses with my girl's ep-3 of course I buy she use

Why do you want to use ISO6400 rather than say ISO3200?
Because in dark areas, you want to have a faster shutter speed of perhaps 1/30s.

If you use ISO6400 expecting a 1/30s as in your backup camera (say GH3 or whatever), but the exposure on your EM-5 shows it needs a shutter speed of 1/20s, lower than what you want. Cause the exposure system in EM-5 knows ISO6400 is ISO4000 and not ISO6400 as stated.

Basically, Oly is short-changing you. You get ISO4000 performance because of a reduction in shutter speed, not due to an improvement in technology.