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[anhyeuem]

Olympus OM-D E-M5 high speed burst mode shooting timings - Four Thirds User discussion forum

Pardon if I sound noob...EM5 is rated at 9fps. But this article test it to be 9fps only for the 1st second. Subsequent seconds will have drastically reduced shooting speed. Is this normal for this type of camera? Cause they did mention for higher end DSLR it's possible to maintain the fps for a few seconds. I know it's not right to compare it with, but just curious to find out.

Like someone in that article pointed out, under what usage will 1secs suffice? I would imagine at least 2secs of burst will be more useful.

 

[Agrivar]

Olympus OM-D E-M5 high speed burst mode shooting timings - Four Thirds User discussion forum

Pardon if I sound noob...EM5 is rated at 9fps. But this article test it to be 9fps only for the 1st second. Subsequent seconds will have drastically reduced shooting speed. Is this normal for this type of camera? Cause they did mention for higher end DSLR it's possible to maintain the fps for a few seconds. I know it's not right to compare it with, but just curious to find out.

Like someone in that article pointed out, under what usage will 1secs suffice? I would imagine at least 2secs of burst will be more useful.

This is incorrect. I tested the EM-5 first hand at the IT show last week. The EM-5 can continue at 9fps for some time. It doesnt seem to slow down at all.. maybe some other bros can substantiate this? Also seen some youtube videos like here : Olympus EM-5 (OMD) Hands on by The Phoblographer - YouTube look at the video around 1:15 min.

 

[Oly5050]

Olympus OM-D E-M5 high speed burst mode shooting timings - Four Thirds User discussion forum

Pardon if I sound noob...EM5 is rated at 9fps. But this article test it to be 9fps only for the 1st second. Subsequent seconds will have drastically reduced shooting speed. Is this normal for this type of camera? Cause they did mention for higher end DSLR it's possible to maintain the fps for a few seconds. I know it's not right to compare it with, but just curious to find out.

Like someone in that article pointed out, under what usage will 1secs suffice? I would imagine at least 2secs of burst will be more useful.

9 fps is very fast. Only a handful of cameras i know of can beat or are comparable to it. Also in the other cameras, there are restrictions like cannot shoot in certain modes if u want the high speed mode. For eg. The new 5d mark 3 which is more than 4 times the price for body only comparison only has 5-6 fps.

 

[anhyeuem]

Saw the YouTube video, notice on screen it says No Card. When u test at IT show I presume u did it with card.

Then it's strange why that article mentions otherwise unless I totally misread it.

 

[bousozoku]

Olympus OM-D E-M5 high speed burst mode shooting timings - Four Thirds User discussion forum

Pardon if I sound noob...EM5 is rated at 9fps. But this article test it to be 9fps only for the 1st second. Subsequent seconds will have drastically reduced shooting speed. Is this normal for this type of camera? Cause they did mention for higher end DSLR it's possible to maintain the fps for a few seconds. I know it's not right to compare it with, but just curious to find out.

Like someone in that article pointed out, under what usage will 1secs suffice? I would imagine at least 2secs of burst will be more useful.

The author mentioned shooting raw + JPEG files for the test, which is the worst for speed. If you shoot either raw files or JPEG files, the time to write to the card and the time to clear the buffer will be improved greatly.

 

[Agrivar]

Yep. I was testing jpg only at IT Show. At least 2-3 sec each burst

 

[Oly5050]

This is incorrect. I tested the EM-5 first hand at the IT show last week. The EM-5 can continue at 9fps for some time. It doesnt seem to slow down at all.. maybe some other bros can substantiate this? Also seen some youtube videos like here : Olympus EM-5 (OMD) Hands on by The Phoblographer - YouTube look at the video around 1:15 min.

I concur...I tested until cow come home...

 

[Oly5050]

Olympus OM-D E-M5 high speed burst mode shooting timings - Four Thirds User discussion forum

Pardon if I sound noob...EM5 is rated at 9fps. But this article test it to be 9fps only for the 1st second. Subsequent seconds will have drastically reduced shooting speed. Is this normal for this type of camera? Cause they did mention for higher end DSLR it's possible to maintain the fps for a few seconds. I know it's not right to compare it with, but just curious to find out.

Like someone in that article pointed out, under what usage will 1secs suffice? I would imagine at least 2secs of burst will be more useful.

I think if you read the article, it is trying to say that it is more like a 10 fps shooter rather than a 9 fps shooter. Also, I think they were shooting at RAW PLUS JPEG. Based on specifications, I think there is no limit on JPEG. But RAW is limited to about 17 frames, if I remember correctly.

 

[anhyeuem]

Yes he did test with jpeg and raw in the beginning but after some guy ask him to test in jpeg only, he post this

"I switched to Large Fine JPEG (no RAW) and found that you still get 12 frames at high speed and then, using the Lexar 600x card) it drops to 2 frames per second. The buffer clears in 7 seconds using the Lexar card when shooting Large Fine without RAW compared to 20 seconds with LSF+RAW."

Anyway he could be doing something wrong, cause so far videos and other users here are of different experiences.

 

[Agrivar]

Yes he did test with jpeg and raw in the beginning but after some guy ask him to test in jpeg only, he post this

"I switched to Large Fine JPEG (no RAW) and found that you still get 12 frames at high speed and then, using the Lexar 600x card) it drops to 2 frames per second. The buffer clears in 7 seconds using the Lexar card when shooting Large Fine without RAW compared to 20 seconds with LSF+RAW."

Anyway he could be doing something wrong, cause so far videos and other users here are of different experiences.

Lexar isn't known as a very good card. The sandisk extreme should do better... Also even if 12 or 17 fps at raw& jpg it's pretty impressive. Why would you shoot so many in succession anyway? When I shoot bursts it's burst then rest then burst..

 

[Fezqu]

Why do you want to use ISO6400 rather than say ISO3200?
Because in dark areas, you want to have a faster shutter speed of perhaps 1/30s.

If you use ISO6400 expecting a 1/30s as in your backup camera (say GH3 or whatever), but the exposure on your EM-5 shows it needs a shutter speed of 1/20s, lower than what you want. Cause the exposure system in EM-5 knows ISO6400 is ISO4000 and not ISO6400 as stated.

Basically, Oly is short-changing you. You get ISO4000 performance because of a reduction in shutter speed, not due to an improvement in technology.

Just exaggerate on the ISO part. Relax...

 

[theITguy]

In essential, assuming that Olympus E-M5 has a ISO 4000 sensitivity rated at ISO 6400, we are only shooting with EV -2/3 compensation at ISO 4000 on other camera. E.g. your photo will be darker compared to a well exposed one.

 

[rhema83]

In essential, assuming that Olympus E-M5 has a ISO 4000 sensitivity rated at ISO 6400, we are only shooting with EV -2/3 compensation at ISO 4000 on other camera. E.g. your photo will be darker compared to a well exposed one.

That is assuming all exposure settings are in manual, and you ignore the light meter. Otherwise, the meter will tell you to go 2/3 EV higher, and your photo will be properly exposed (except the EXIF information will say the exaggerated ISO 6400 now instead of the correct ISO 4000). I suspect this difference will be immaterial to most shooters (at least the target market of the E-M5).

Nevertheless I wonder which industrial standard test did Olympus use to rate its ISO sensitivities? How can it be 2/3 EV off? That is a lot of difference in the optical industry, and Olympus has been in it long enough to know that.

 

[NazgulKing]

I have found that different cameras do things differently with regards to light metering. Some dudes over at luminious landscape made a fuss over that, and in some terms their criticisms are correct; the calibration for ISO for different cameras is different.

 

[Agrivar]

That is assuming all exposure settings are in manual, and you ignore the light meter. Otherwise, the meter will tell you to go 2/3 EV higher, and your photo will be properly exposed (except the EXIF information will say the exaggerated ISO 6400 now instead of the correct ISO 4000). I suspect this difference will be immaterial to most shooters (at least the target market of the E-M5).

Nevertheless I wonder which industrial standard test did Olympus use to rate its ISO sensitivities? How can it be 2/3 EV off? That is a lot of difference in the optical industry, and Olympus has been in it long enough to know that.

You can search on the net on or dpr but this point has been debated for many years. Basically most camera manufacturers do not measure iso the same way as say dxomark, Canon, Nikon all do this. So it's nothing new to see that the oly rated iso values are not what do reports. Dpr even says the true Iso is prob only 1/3 EV off.

 

[theITguy]

That is assuming all exposure settings are in manual, and you ignore the light meter. Otherwise, the meter will tell you to go 2/3 EV higher, and your photo will be properly exposed (except the EXIF information will say the exaggerated ISO 6400 now instead of the correct ISO 4000). I suspect this difference will be immaterial to most shooters (at least the target market of the E-M5).

Nevertheless I wonder which industrial standard test did Olympus use to rate its ISO sensitivities? How can it be 2/3 EV off? That is a lot of difference in the optical industry, and Olympus has been in it long enough to know that.

My GX1 is known to under expose by 2/3 EV to prevent highlight clipping. Olympus is just trying to say that they are better on the picture output?

 

[As7eroidS]

9 fps is very fast. Only a handful of cameras i know of can beat or are comparable to it. Also in the other cameras, there are restrictions like cannot shoot in certain modes if u want the high speed mode. For eg. The new 5d mark 3 which is more than 4 times the price for body only comparison only has 5-6 fps.

FYI, Sony A77 can do at least 10fps

 

[As7eroidS]

This is incorrect. I tested the EM-5 first hand at the IT show last week. The EM-5 can continue at 9fps for some time. It doesnt seem to slow down at all.. maybe some other bros can substantiate this? Also seen some youtube videos like here : Olympus EM-5 (OMD) Hands on by The Phoblographer - YouTube look at the video around 1:15 min.

no card used.

 

[Agrivar]

no card used.

I tested at IT show with a card.. but i was shooting jpgs.. could get 2-3 sec burst at 9fps no slowdown...

 

[cromdeg]

after browsing thru pages and pages of reviews, here's what i got so far from reviewer anecdotes:

1. excellent performance at iso 1600? check.
2. comparable AF performance to EP3? check.
3. improved dynamic range from EP3? check.
4. same sensor as G3's? unknown.
5. Can shoot 9fps for more than 1 sec? who cares? if you're into sports photography, there are better choices out there.

I see a lot of people comparing EM-5 to G3 and whether the price difference is worth it. For me, the build quality, 2 dials and the improved IBIS is more than worth the price difference. As a former pentax user, I would liken this to comparison between FA35 and FA31 lens. No contest