Zeiss Lens on EOS


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Some shots with the 21mm Distagon:


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Hey WeeKH

You bought the lens. :) What $?
21mm Distagon is not a discontinued lens as it is relatively new in the range.
Has special glass elements.
 

ricohflex said:
Hey WeeKH

You bought the lens. :) What $?
21mm Distagon is not a discontinued lens as it is relatively new in the range.
Has special glass elements.

Above the retailing price for a 5 years old lens....
ONe of those few lenses that one can sell at a premium over what they had paid!
 

weekh

Good pic.
You mentioned not impressed by the 50 CZ f.14. but impressed with 28 f2.8
I am impressed by both.
Of the two, I find the 50 f1.4 CZ more impressive.
Maybe you are at the stage where you look for sharpness and find it super.
Actually the 50 cz f1.4 takes beautiful portraits. the tone, and other factors count. Optical engineers always make compromises when they design a lens. Some lenses are hard and sharp but the portrait subject person looks ghastly in the photo.
Contax 50 CZ f1.4 renders very pleasing portraits, take more pics with it and you may appreciate it more. :bsmilie:
A lens that makes human subjects look good is not easy to make. I am not talking about soft focus.
 

ok weekh! u got me convinced about cz lens with your stunning pictures. i didn't know u could mount cz on 20d (where have i been right?!?)!!

quick question...is there a servicing center for contax and cz lens? if there is, will there be around even though they have stopped production?

anyways i have a friend coming back from hk tomorrow and he's going to the camera shop to buy...guess what? a contax body and cz lens. u will be amazed - hk has a wide range of new cz lens. ironically i just called up couple of shops in singapore today and they do not stock cz lens.

anyone interested in buying a cz lens, pls let me know by tomorrow! will check for you the price and availability. u can msg me at 90019691! i think my friend can only hand-carry up to 4 boxes of lens so it's on a first come first serve basis.

thanks weekh for sharing!
 

ricohflex said:
weekh

Good pic.
You mentioned not impressed by the 50 CZ f.14. but impressed with 28 f2.8
I am impressed by both.
Of the two, I find the 50 f1.4 CZ more impressive.
Maybe you are at the stage where you look for sharpness and find it super.
Actually the 50 cz f1.4 takes beautiful portraits. the tone, and other factors count. Optical engineers always make compromises when they design a lens. Some lenses are hard and sharp but the portrait subject person looks ghastly in the photo.
Contax 50 CZ f1.4 renders very pleasing portraits, take more pics with it and you may appreciate it more. :bsmilie:
A lens that makes human subjects look good is not easy to make. I am not talking about soft focus.

Yes. I'm starting to find that the skin tone of taken with the CZ is rather pleasing. I'm about to do a side by side comparision between the CZ and Canon lenses to see if there is indeed a distinct difference.
 

If u're interested to try Zeiss lenses on your EOS body, u can still tag on to my order for the DSLRx adapters. See this thread for the MO and do so asap!
 

OK, I've been doing a series of quick test this morning between the Zeiss and Canon 50mm on the colour cast and skin tone.

I just can't draw a conclusion... both are just great.. I don't really see the Zeiss has a distinctive edge over the Canon.

Or perhaps some of u guys with your professional eyes can point out the diff to me:

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Of course there are other factors like flare, edge sharpness, bokeh test which I've not done...
 

Great! A blind test. Can the experts please make comments?
 

pokiemon

Your friend might be carrying $50,000 worth of lenses if he hand carries 4 boxes of lenses! :o These are CZ and they can be costly.
Will the customs officer let him through?
Thanks for the generous offer. :) Do we order and he buys the lenses first, then we pay him when he brings to lens back to Sing?
Must be rich person.
How is your friend going to finance the buying?
 

weekh

Oh, I cannot tell between the two.
But I have seen my own photo prints of pics taken with my CZ 50 f1.4 and Canon 50 f1.4 EF. But I like both anyway.
The Canon 50 f1.4 seems to give a slightly harder edge to the picture.
The CZ 5- f1.4 almost always gives you a picture of a person that looks soothing and nice to view. The subject can young or old, pretty or normal looking. :)

I think optical engineers decide resolution, contrast, bokeh, colour characteristics, gradations of tone, flare resistance, reduction of abberations, reduction of distortion etc...when they design the lens. Then the mechanical / electronic engineers design the the barrel material, the gearing, iris blades closing time (Leica very particular about this for R lens) and (if AF lens) USM motors, iris magnets, contact points, etc...
And all this within the design cost limit that the company set for them.

There seems some trade off between resolution and contrast. Perhaps using expensive and special glass can help.
 

I'm guessing CZ on the upper pic, as the skin tone looks slightly warmer, based on what I've seen on your previous photos..

Then again I could be completely wrong haha :embrass: :sweatsm:
 

weekh said:
OK, I've been doing a series of quick test this morning between the Zeiss and Canon 50mm on the colour cast and skin tone.
...
Again a cool test :)

(Don't forget that monitor/lcd is the main factor for digital viewing) In my monitor, the 1st pic show slight more richer in color (warmer, I assume you use the setting for the RAW convertion), but because both are the 3k+- ambient light, those lens that with warmer base will be advantage. Try another outdoor may show different, I dunno.

Really interesting to see this comparison, although really not big different and franky I will not able to tell if only seeing one pix alone.

Hope to see more...hehe...

Not a pro here, just an opinion ;)
 

hi managed to check some of the prices...

contax g2 - hk5,900 (S$1,311)
g lens 45mm f2 - hk2,600 (S$577)
50mm f1.4 planar ae mount hk3,600 (S$800)

still checking on the other lens...actually you can call one of the shops directly at 852 2396 6886. they are like to cp. helps if u can speak canto.
 

pokiemon said:
hi managed to check some of the prices...

contax g2 - hk5,900 (S$1,311)
g lens 45mm f2 - hk2,600 (S$577)
50mm f1.4 planar ae mount hk3,600 (S$800)

still checking on the other lens...actually you can call one of the shops directly at 852 2396 6886. they are like to cp. helps if u can speak canto.

I bought my G-lens in Japan (BIG-camera), the price are much cheaper there, although I am not sure why. Got the 28mm f2.8 at 300 ~ 400 +-, and I check the 50mm f2 (already have mine with cameraworkshop, about 600 or slightly less, so never buy) only at 450+-.

My memory about pricing is not very good, but I am sure is much cheaper.

Just for your information.
 

strange that japan is cheaper! not sure about prices for contax. however if you compare HK vs SGD prices of canon lens and cameras , HK is normally cheaper and by at least 5% cos there's no gst there. 24-70 retails for abt S$2,150 in hk vs S$2,430 at CP. macro 100mm f2.8 S$830 in hk vs $1,030 at CP. all with international warranty.
 

Both images could well be from the same lens but with half to one stop difference in exposure. The image on top looks more like CZ image, going by the contrast and skin tones, and generally what I get from CZ lenses.
 

I bought my 50mm ƒ/1.4 Planar with an attached camera -- oddly, a used camera w/50 was cheaper second-hand than a lens alone. Cost ~$150US

The biggest hassle with these lenses is making sure the focus is good given the weeee tiny viewfinders in DSLRs. When I look through the big finder in the old RTS it's breathtaking! :)
 

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