Suggestion: Code of Conduct for Lingerine and Nude Organised Shoots

[scandal599]

[...challenging her to conduct a shoot of her own.
Merry meet and merry part till we merry meet again. [/QUOTE]


Since I brought that up, let me clarify whay I did what I did. For the record, I did not do it in a pique of frustration or anger.

The fact of the matter here is from the get go, the bottomline here is her stand: that mods have a duty to regulate shoots and that some viable code of conduct should be established in CS itself to monitor organised shoots. CS in actual fact is a self-moderated forum which only moderates what is posetd here. What goes on in the shoot section is beyond what mods can do as their power to moderate lies in what has been posted and not what goes on beyond that level.

In light of that, the nous then lies in the organiser of such shoots to regulate the shoot itself. The purpose of asking her to organise a shoot is also an attempt to make her understand that such shoots involve time and money. To further that, she is asking for a mentor to guide noobs like me in such shoots. I am for that idea, but to defray whatever costs incurred by the organiser and the logistics included in such a shoot, to break even the cost, what is the cost-profit ratio she she be reasonably expected to make? It will come to a point that it will be just like a mass shoot to cover the cost that she has put in. In the end, we are back to square one.

 

[vince123123]

Yup, and I'm still posing my reversal guideline stance to say that models must give up a share of their earnings to hire a model mentor so that they too, can be professional about the shoot and contribute to a quality shoot.

However, as expected, it is easy to tell others what to do when one is not affected, or doing it. However, when the situation is reversed and it affects you or you need to do it, then suddenly the tune changes 180 degrees.

 

[mrleech]

I guess the onus is on the models.

Let me draw a reference to a lady and a guy dating. Do you know what is the guy thinking when he dates you? Are you sure he is the gentleman? He will not do anything wrong? How do you define the line when a guy touches a lady's lower back? Is he being a gentleman trying to guide the lady towards the table? Or is he hinting anything sexual?

Who are we to decide? If the lady is fine with it, the guy can pretty much do anything he wants.

 

[vince123123]

Hahah, then we need to have a Dating Regulatory Body, where any males wanting to date a female must first submit his history of past dates, reviews from them, prove that he has money in his bank account, and on top of that, have a mentor to teach him what to do!

But wait a second, do we then also need to impose the same thing on the female for equality's sake?

I guess the onus is on the models.

Let me draw a reference to a lady and a guy dating. Do you know what is the guy thinking when he dates you? Are you sure he is the gentleman? He will not do anything wrong? How do you define the line when a guy touches a lady's lower back? Is he being a gentleman trying to guide the lady towards the table? Or is he hinting anything sexual?

Who are we to decide? If the lady is fine with it, the guy can pretty much do anything he wants.

 

[mrleech]

Hahah, then we need to have a Dating Regulatory Body, where any males wanting to date a female must first submit his history of past dates, reviews from them, prove that he has money in his bank account, and on top of that, have a mentor to teach him what to do!

But wait a second, do we then also need to impose the same thing on the female for equality's sake?

OT liao. But then, ladies are always favoured by the law and society.

 

[CYRN]

..... and on top of that, have a mentor to teach him what to do!

....

Dang... where's my mentor. :cry:

 

[TheQuestion]

Hahah, then we need to have a Dating Regulatory Body, where any males wanting to date a female must first submit his history of past dates, reviews from them, prove that he has money in his bank account, and on top of that, have a mentor to teach him what to do!

But wait a second, do we then also need to impose the same thing on the female for equality's sake?

We already do. Its called SDU :sweat::bsmilie:

 

[CYRN]

We already do. Its called SDU :sweat::bsmilie:

No mentor leh...

later mentor runs off wif the date how. :sweat::sweat:

*edit* ok,ok.. I suddenly remember here not kopitiam... paiseh for OT.

 

[Lynette07]

hey im new here, and i think its fine to a certain extent. i did a topless shoot once but i covered myself, and the photographers were really experienced. it just depends on how the other people think about it, not how you yourself think about it. btw, im looking for photographers to organise a shoot, i just started modelling half a year ago. thanks!

 

[mrleech]

hey im new here, and i think its fine to a certain extent. i did a topless shoot once but i covered myself, and the photographers were really experienced. it just depends on how the other people think about it, not how you yourself think about it. btw, im looking for photographers to organise a shoot, i just started modelling half a year ago. thanks!

Sorry. I peeped at your profile.

14yo. You are you are fine with topless shoot at this age? Of course we are in no position to stop you. Like you said, it just depends on how others think about it.

Likewise, I think it is too young for a 14yo to do topless shoot. Unless you are 14 months, then perhaps still ok.

 

[TheQuestion]

Sorry. I peeped at your profile.

14yo. You are you are fine with topless shoot at this age? Of course we are in no position to stop you. Like you said, it just depends on how others think about it.

Likewise, I think it is too young for a 14yo to do topless shoot. Unless you are 14 months, then perhaps still ok.

14?! that's borderline child porn already :bigeyes: ok this i am against. regardless of where its art or not.

 

[CYRN]

Sorry. I peeped at your profile.

14yo. You are you are fine with topless shoot at this age? Of course we are in no position to stop you. Like you said, it just depends on how others think about it.

Likewise, I think it is too young for a 14yo to do topless shoot. Unless you are 14 months, then perhaps still ok.

14?! that's borderline child porn already :bigeyes: ok this i am against. regardless of where its art or not.

hey im new here, and i think its fine to a certain extent. i did a topless shoot once but i covered myself, and the photographers were really experienced. it just depends on how the other people think about it, not how you yourself think about it. btw, im looking for photographers to organise a shoot, i just started modelling half a year ago. thanks!

Look carefully.... she's 14... started modeling in Mid 08... joined CS in Dec 08. (did not specify when she had her topless shoot tho)

This is what I mean by the futility in imposing control here as per the thread title...

If Averal's intention is really to "protect" the young models... CS might not be the right place. :think:

 

[scandal599]

hey im new here, and i think its fine to a certain extent. i did a topless shoot once but i covered myself, and the photographers were really experienced. it just depends on how the other people think about it, not how you yourself think about it. btw, im looking for photographers to organise a shoot, i just started modelling half a year ago. thanks!

14???!!!:bigeyes:

And you did a topless shoot???:bigeyes:

And the photogs actually carried on??? Do they have any knowledge of your age first??

Inspite of the fact you are covered, that is besides the point. What were you doing in the shoot???:bigeyes:

 

[zcf]

nude shoot for teenager and child can be very contraversy,
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-girl-art-row-flares-in-australia-861720.html

does that mean a child or teenager cannot have a memory photo of semi nude for themselve, even it is artistically done?

Here we are not even talking nude shot yet. I don't see it break any rules that for a 14 years old to pose for covered topless artistic shot, as long as the teenager know what he/she know what she is doing, and the photographer do it artistically.

 

[Dream Merchant]

hey im new here, and i think its fine to a certain extent. i did a topless shoot once but i covered myself, and the photographers were really experienced. it just depends on how the other people think about it, not how you yourself think about it. btw, im looking for photographers to organise a shoot, i just started modelling half a year ago. thanks!

Next TNP Headline:

Lewd Photographers try to entice 14yo girl to go topless


How many 14yos write like that?

Well, if you're not another reporter in disguise deliberately trying to snare and lead us along like a dog on a chain, PROVE IT. I'm sure you won't mind showing yr blog, website and link to your album. Cos if you're real, and you can prove it, I'm sure you will very soon find top-quality photographers to organize shoots for you.

... IF you're real ...

:think:

 

[CYRN]

nude shoot for teenager and child can be very contraversy,
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-girl-art-row-flares-in-australia-861720.html

does that mean a child or teenager cannot have a memory photo of semi nude for themselve, even it is artistically done?

Here we are not even talking nude shot yet. I don't see it break any rules that for a 14 years old to pose for covered topless artistic shot, as long as the teenager know what he/she know what she is doing, and the photographer do it artistically.

I think the whole thing here isn't about genuine cases, too bad these are collateral damages ... but rather how to prevent unwanted cases.

Lynette07 case just shows a positive shoot experience by the model (only)...but who are we to judge the outcome of the photos...since I don't think even she gets to see all the shots taken by all. Not to mention I doubt she herself knows the benchmark of good photography.

 

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

Guys, let me forewarn you guys... beware of clones and malicious identities in the internet, who knows, your comments now is being log for future publicity of other members.

This 14 year old may be a clone or someone in disguise to create another sensational news.

 

[TheQuestion]

Guys, let me forewarn you guys... beware of clones and malicious identities in the internet, who knows, your comments now is being log for future publicity of other members.

This 14 year old may be a clone or someone in disguise to create another sensational news.

good point...suspected something was up.

 

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

Next TNP Headline:

Lewd Photographers try to entice 14yo girl to go topless


How many 14yos write like that?

Well, if you're not another reporter in disguise deliberately trying to snare and lead us along like a dog on a chain, PROVE IT. I'm sure you won't mind showing yr blog and website and link to your album, right? I mean, you're REAL right? Cos if you're real, and you can prove it, I'm sure you will very soon find a top-quality photographers to organise shoots for you.

... IF you're real ...

:think:

F.Y.I, no credibility, cos only registered yesterday.

I reserve my rights to be proven otherwise.

 

[CYRN]

Guys, let me forewarn you guys... beware of clones and malicious identities in the internet, who knows, your comments now is being log for future publicity of other members.

This 14 year old may be a clone or someone in disguise to create another sensational news.

But her post counts makes it known that she did have access to restricted side of CS.. meaning someone vouched for her. :think: