Special Forces Unit - Hostage Situation


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I guess its more appropriate to say its Mercenaries in action :)
 

err.. is it SFU or mercenaries in action or hostage situation..? how come no hostage ar?

Use your imagination as to the outcome of the "hostages".

I'm quite amused by the comments that has been posted here. From "where got long hair SWAT" to Chicken wings at weapons handling.

Erm...yes, these are little details but look @ the Screenshot which was posted...the guy on the left also Mr Chicken Wings...and that's computer generated which gives the creator even more control over the characters...

We would've expected more comments based on "Oh framing is so and so"...composition is so and so...blah blah...

Lets just stick to that cause we're working with models of limited experience with military tactics and movements, most of us were more concerned about getting the shot right rather than chicken wings and hey, we were trying to have fun while shooting something different.

So if you think that you can do better, go ahead and shoot. It's easy to capture a screenshot from a computer game and says that it's better. :nono:

I could always post up a screencap of "Band of Brothers" and say that it's better as well...it's easy.
 

No point having a nice framing and good composition when concept don't even work in the first place........
Planning is the very first stage of photography with shooting part being the easiest......
 

Thanks to JT-Fied for organising this shoot :)

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Shooting any type of weapon sideways as shown is unrealistic and Real World Pro's never shoot like this. That typically is a the GangBangers style.

Even STAR / SECOM never shoot like this. I know this first hand from shooting with them and know they place emphasis on gun handling and they certainly dont move around with finger on trigger as depicted. One stumble the person in front or behind is shot.

While I like the idea of the series, it looses the effect from a gun handling point of view, if you have ever shot the same weapon in real terms you will know how hard it is to control your trigger finger when its in the guard on the trigger when jumping obstacles and especially in this photo the person shooting the pistol has the other weapon behind this head with finger on trigger. Its this attention to detail that lets this series down.

Maybe you should research more about weapons handling, movement before depicting a scernario such as this, which seems to make a joke out of the professionalism of all Special Forces Members.

Cheers ....
 

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I guess the other part of your post has nothing to do with my comments. So it would be better you if quote the appropriate member or don't include any quotes. It's very misleading to viewers. I didn't comment anything on the quality of the pictures whatsoever.

And.. my comment is that the title is misleading to viewers.. I guess if some hostages pictures are included, it would enhance the series. Was expecting some hostages pictures from the title but it isn't present. If you wanna talk about "using imagination", isn't it more appropriate still to title it as "SFU in action", so it is up to the viewer to "imagine" what they're trying to do or involved in what operation?


Use your imagination as to the outcome of the "hostages".

I'm quite amused by the comments that has been posted here. From "where got long hair SWAT" to Chicken wings at weapons handling.

Erm...yes, these are little details but look @ the Screenshot which was posted...the guy on the left also Mr Chicken Wings...and that's computer generated which gives the creator even more control over the characters...

We would've expected more comments based on "Oh framing is so and so"...composition is so and so...blah blah...

Lets just stick to that cause we're working with models of limited experience with military tactics and movements, most of us were more concerned about getting the shot right rather than chicken wings and hey, we were trying to have fun while shooting something different.

So if you think that you can do better, go ahead and shoot. It's easy to capture a screenshot from a computer game and says that it's better. :nono:

I could always post up a screencap of "Band of Brothers" and say that it's better as well...it's easy.
 

Shooting any type of weapon sideways as shown is unrealistic and Real World Pro's never shoot like this. That typically is a the GangBangers style.

Even STAR / SECOM never shoot like this. I know this first hand from shooting with them and know they place emphasis on gun handling and they certainly dont move around with finger on trigger as depicted. One stumble the person in front or behind is shot.

While I like the idea of the series, it looses the effect from a gun handling point of view, if you have ever shot the same weapon in real terms you will know how hard it is to control your trigger finger when its in the guard on the trigger when jumping obstacles and especially in this photo the person shooting the pistol has the other weapon behind this head with finger on trigger. Its this attention to detail that lets this series down.

Maybe you should research more about weapons handling, movement before depicting a scernario such as this, which seems to make a joke out of the professionalism of all Special Forces Members.

Cheers ....

Perhaps you didn't read the previous threads...the TS has already admitted that it shouldn't be called "Special Forces" and wanted to rename it to mercenaries instead. No disprespect towards the actual units are intended.

Maybe you could read the other threads first before going on about the same topic of weapons handling etc.

The fact of the matter is that we're out to try a different type of themed shoot and we believed we've achieved it with the limited resources we had. We're not professionals and are just hobbyists so yes...these are finer details which could and should have been looked into. If I'm charging you $7.50 for a movie ticket, then yes you should expect more research but hey, it's all in the name of fun.

We're more interested in methods of improving our photography (making the images more dynamic/relative to the theme with our photography then the details such as equipment and models).

However, we're just out to have fun and at the same time, try out our skills @ a make-believe scenario.

So thanks anyway for all the non-related comments.
 

I think the part 2 (If i do consider doing a part 2.....) might invite some of those who commented on the wrong handling and such to come down as our "technical advisors" so that we won't make such mistakes again. ;p
 

nice shoot at the abandoned flats, if i'm not wrong so of the ground house unit is unlock... did went there for a look before, but the upper level is lock... if not can do a better shoot over there... :)

nice.. :thumbsup:
 

nice shoot at the abandoned flats, if i'm not wrong so of the ground house unit is unlock... did went there for a look before, but the upper level is lock... if not can do a better shoot over there... :)

nice.. :thumbsup:

Yeah some of the lower levels were unlocked... no way to access the top... even can also not a good idea... there was police patroling also.. they came to have a friendly chat with us and even wanted to know where to get the guns from hahaha invited them to join in the shoot but they politely declined hahaha
 

I think the part 2 (If i do consider doing a part 2.....) might invite some of those who commented on the wrong handling and such to come down as our "technical advisors" so that we won't make such mistakes again. ;p

i guess some of the photogs there then might have been through ns already. like what getz said, the planning is important but we all understand its make believe also, we all budget photographers only wad! haha

ok you should realise the place is pretty clean, no rubbish no nothing too clean for a shoot. find a way to work around that (not telling you now so you can figure out yourself)

the handling of weapons has been mentioned so it can be improved for part 2

by far one of the better shots is the kick open the door one imo :D

also, try shooting more shots indoor since you all could access inside, the natural window lighting would be useful for more drama mama effect if you all weren't playing with lights :D

that's how i would make do with the limitations, figure how to eliminate the 'clean' surroundings ok? haha next time then tell you, go think alittle first, thinking is part of learning and its fun ;p
 

Yeah some of the lower levels were unlocked... no way to access the top... even can also not a good idea... there was police patroling also.. they came to have a friendly chat with us and even wanted to know where to get the guns from hahaha invited them to join in the shoot but they politely declined hahaha

:sweat::bigeyes::bigeyes::thumbsup:
 

i guess some of the photogs there then might have been through ns already. like what getz said, the planning is important but we all understand its make believe also, we all budget photographers only wad! haha

ok you should realise the place is pretty clean, no rubbish no nothing too clean for a shoot. find a way to work around that (not telling you now so you can figure out yourself)

the handling of weapons has been mentioned so it can be improved for part 2

by far one of the better shots is the kick open the door one imo :D

also, try shooting more shots indoor since you all could access inside, the natural window lighting would be useful for more drama mama effect if you all weren't playing with lights :D

that's how i would make do with the limitations, figure how to eliminate the 'clean' surroundings ok? haha next time then tell you, go think alittle first, thinking is part of learning and its fun ;p

hahaha ok thanks sprintist will go pick my mind to see how to make the place dirty... as for the indoor one we actually found it by accident... most of the ground floor units had grills so no way in only this particular one only had a door with a lock and latch... our intention was just to simulate the kicking of the door but who know the moller so into his role he actually kicked the door and broke the latch!!! hahahaha but by then was already towards the end and we were all quite tired so i think only myself took those indoor shots.
 

I guess since both models have not gone thru NS yet both of them were kinda "trigger happy" so to speak?? hahaha
 

hahaha ok thanks sprintist will go pick my mind to see how to make the place dirty... as for the indoor one we actually found it by accident... most of the ground floor units had grills so no way in only this particular one only had a door with a lock and latch... our intention was just to simulate the kicking of the door but who know the moller so into his role he actually kicked the door and broke the latch!!! hahahaha but by then was already towards the end and we were all quite tired so i think only myself took those indoor shots.

no you don't have to make the place dirty :):)

if there's part 2 i would like to try helping out will see what i can help with my little knowledge, am keen in it but need to have more proper props :bsmilie:
 

no you don't have to make the place dirty :):)

if there's part 2 i would like to try helping out will see what i can help with my little knowledge, am keen in it but need to have more proper props :bsmilie:

i'm waiting for more guns and gears to come in...but...i can't be buying everything la hahaha tried borrowing but not many... might borrow some stuff from my colleague though if there is a part 2... most of the stuff for the shoot were my own personal collection... only one of the vests and the M4 were from the other photogs. I EVEN HAD TO PROVIDE BOOTS FOR ONE OF THE MOLLERS SIAH!!! hahahaha see how budget it was. :sweat:
 

Paiseh if the title of the thread caused some misunderstandings, I tried editing it but it seems like the thread title is still the same.
 

Paiseh if the title of the thread caused some misunderstandings, I tried editing it but it seems like the thread title is still the same.

bro title thread got nothing to do with it la. We just can't please everyone. Well as long as we had fun and like our pics then so be it ba... look out for part 2!!
 

Will be looking out for part 2 :)
 

haha... whats up with the title... Special Forces Unit may come in various forms and countries, why subjective and comparison to the ones in Singapore? The TS probably has the intention of enacting a nice plot and nice title to match his results... we should not be stereo-typed... and should open to ideas in photography ;)



PS: mind if i ask where is the hostage if you are mentioning "Hostage Situation"?

2 cents worth of thoughts... hope did not offend anyone
 

Nice idea...but a little more "special forces" in the shots would suit the theme more. ie: with a pistol, you never point it anywhere you are not looking...and one-handed...never.

Try a darker look...and even Draganize the photos to make them look more "rugged".
 

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