Some pics from the Trip of the Year!

[Splutter]

I think Hotspot's cowgirl is really well taken. Granted the background is a little out of place, but I think given the conditions its pretty hard to gather a few cows and find a meadow field

 

[Pro Image]

I think Hotspot's cowgirl is really well taken. Granted the background is a little out of place, but I think given the conditions its pretty hard to gather a few cows and find a meadow field

Thanks for the appreciation. :thumbsup:

 

[Jemapela]

Note taken......now let's move on! Let us know if you want to be our stylist the next round in Kuantan. We would be happy if you can coordinate and give us more ideas.

Oh another thing, so what should be the approatiate outfit and background for those you mentioned for the point on No.1 and No.2? We would love to rectify for future shoots. Thanks.

Hi Pro Image,

I don't think I'm qualified to be a stylist but I wouldn't mind contributing ideas if I could.

In the absence of a stylist or art-director, photographers should be able to do a little styling or directing themselves. If not, photographers may shoot images that look weird (to say the least).

One of the best ways to improve styling and directing abilities is to do some studying and researching, especially before a shoot. Study the images in contemporary magazines, fashion catalogues, apparel advertisements, etc. Some even study/research culture and trends if they are going to shoot images which originated from overseas.

Suggested improvements:

1A) Use cowboy boots to add strength to the cowboy/cowgirl look. (Search the Internet for "cowboy boots" to see how they look like.)

1B) Replace the black leather jacket with something more cowboyish. (Search the web for "cowboy" or "cowgirl" images -- there should be many done in the US, perhaps by FHM US.)

1C) Shoot in a more open (perhaps bushy/sandy/natural) environment. (There should be more open spaces outside of Singapore since the shoot was in Malaysia.) Harsh lighting? So be it! Cowboys and cowgirls are outdoor people, scorched by the sun, not delicate fragile subjects that need to be lit 24/7 by unrealistic flat even lighting.

2A) Use black leather shoes. These could come with laces or a single strap over the foot. (Similarly, search the Internet to find images on Japanese school girl images. Japanese anime and school girl uniforms have a significant following in Singapore but surprisingly the shoes used in the shoot lack the accuracy.)

2B) Use baggy elephant socks. (The trend with such baggy socks has died down long ago, according to a Japanese friend of mine. However, through research, many images of Japanese school girls are still pictured with the baggy socks. Using such socks can be a matter of personal preference.)

I understand that cowboy/cowgirl clothes may be difficult to find in Singapore but not impossible. If impossible, buy online. I'm sure the Japanese sailor uniform was bought online from overseas. If the organiser/stylist could pay so much $$$ for a sailor uniform (I know because I have 1), I'm sure he/she could pay for the cowboy boots.

If the styling is incomplete or inaccurate, then either abort the idea or shoot objectively (to exclude the legs so that the boots/shoes don't appear in the image.)

 

[Jemapela]

I think Hotspot's cowgirl is really well taken. Granted the background is a little out of place, but I think given the conditions its pretty hard to gather a few cows and find a meadow field

Hi Splutter,

Not to cruelly bust the morale of the good men who posted their images here, I want to say loudly that I agree with you.

It is often very very difficult to get the right environment and props for images, and a hell lot of effort, time, and even $$ may need to be spent on obtaining them.

Anyway, apart from cows, other animals such as horses, and places such as farms, stables, open grasslands, and props such as saddles, lasso, whip, etc may also be appropriate. (Are we brainstorming yet?)

There was much comment for the images (technically and the pretty models -as often in ClubSnap) but nobody seem to say anything about the styling misadventure.

 

[Venom81]

Ladies and gentlemen,...by popular request,....I present to you....The Cow Girl!

and....the Retro Queen!

and finally....the Bad Bad Sailor Moon! (I don't have the pic of her with the finger...but caught her breaking school rules here)

Nice pics. Retro queen is great. :
Faster call the principal, school gal smoking. :bsmilie:

 

[Venom81]

And more of Haley's

Great pics, Sailor Moon. :bsmilie:
Still wearing white school shoes. :thumbsup:

 

[Venom81]

Phew!...any hotter, and the admin's going to lock the thread and boot me out of CS... :sweat:

But Haley is THE most photogenic model I've had the pleasure of photographing. :lovegrin:

Her eyes....

No worries, no one is going to lock the thread. :bsmilie:
Totally agreed with you on Harley. Like her eyes. :lovegrin:

 

[Haley]

2) While the pink flowers and Oriental environment in the background was very appropriate, the Japanese sailor uniform is mismatched with the white shoes.

well.. that pair of shoes is the best option.. cos i couldnt fit into the other pair..
but thanks 4 ur comment anyway..

all i know is EVERY1 had alot of FUN.. thats the main thing..

 

[Haley]

But Haley is THE most photogenic model I've had the pleasure of photographing.

awww~ thank u.. u're so kind.. so sweet!! *blush*

 

[Venom81]

well.. that pair of shoes is the best option.. cos i couldnt fit into the other pair..
but thanks 4 ur comment anyway..

all i know is EVERY1 had alot of FUN.. thats the main thing..

The white shoes okie mah fits the school gal image. Maybe not nice for Sailor moon. :sweat:

 

[Haley]

No worries, no one is going to lock the thread. :bsmilie:
Totally agreed with you on Harley. Like her eyes. :lovegrin:

awww... u 2.. so sweet!! *muackz...*

 

[Venom81]

awww... u 2.. so sweet!! *muackz...*

You are more sweet. See your pics can get diabetes. :bsmilie:

 

[Toto38]

Hi all,

The pretty models aside, I saw some beautiful images captured in scenes outside Singapore. Away from our tiny Singapore home, it's surely a refreshing change to the many portraits previously featured here on ClubSnap.

Even the models' clothes were fairly untypical. There was a cow boy outfit and a Japanese high school sailor uniform. It's a nice creative change.

While I'm sure that the photographers are well skilled to produce these technically excellent images, the image styling seems somewhat off.

1) While the leather hat and denim shorts were appropriate, the cow boy outfit appears weird with the black high-heeled boots and black leather jacket. Set against bamboo and Chinese characters on a tomb-looking stone makes it even more out of place.

2) While the pink flowers and Oriental environment in the background was very appropriate, the Japanese sailor uniform is mismatched with the white shoes.

While the ideas were basically there, more attention should be given to image styling or art direction.

I'm not here to bust your morale... just voicing some observations.

I understant what you try to say, but I can't find all the background to match all the theme.

Well the Japanese sailor uniform is mismatched, the reason is the model who wearing this outfit had some problem with the visa, she can't join us, so this girl is taking over her last min.

Actually the most important for this trip is to enjoy the shoot, I just want to give everybody something difference. I am not a stylist, and I am not anybody, I am just a "Ah soh" to gether all the hobby shooter to go for a "mum mum " and photo shoot.

This is a trip to enjoy and relax, if we are so particular on everything, that you will not happy with this, not happy with that, end up you are not enjoy the trip, and this is what we don't want.

Anyway thank you for your opinion, maybe my next trip you can give a helping hand!

 

[Lense 18-400 f1.0 IS]

I understant what you try to say, but I can't find all the background to match all the theme.

Well the Japanese sailor uniform is mismatched, the reason is the model who wearing this outfit had some problem with the visa, she can't join us, so this girl is taking over her last min.

Actually the most important for this trip is to enjoy the shoot, I just want to give everybody something difference. I am not a stylist, and I am not anybody, I am just a "Ah soh" to gether all the hobby shooter to go for a "mum mum " and photo shoot.

This is a trip to enjoy and relax, if we are so particular on everything, that you will not happy with this, not happy with that, end up you are not enjoy the trip, and this is what we don't want.

Anyway thank you for your opinion, maybe my next trip you can give a helping hand!

Can't resist the temptation to say something, but this Auntie has made the shooters that go for the trip enjoyed themselves, actually wished I joined the trip.

But then again, to travel all the way up, to shoot in Malacca, none of this shots look like you guys travelled that far. Shots look like they are done in East Coast Beach and Har Par Villa.

Not trying to be sacarstic, but, Auntie, next time you want to go that far for a shoot, make sure the location is unique and special enough to go all the way there.

And the costume the "talents" (they are not classified as models, even if they appear in print ads) wear are total mismatch and kinky. Sexy can be define in alot of ways, not just less cloth. So many themes but none match the beautiful malacca, what's the point?

Make the location and costume work together, pretty pictures are not good enough to be the reason to go that far.

You can still eat and shoot here, without all the hassle. Maybe will enjoy more.

Or you can get a creative(Art director) & stylist to work together to help to set the theme for the location. I am sure you have some creative in your circle of students. Give them a free trip, or pay them a token. Sure they would want to do it in the name of fun.

just my 2 cents worth, with these all said, hope your next trip will be better.

If this trip is organise by this one Auntie alone, you still get my standing applause. Well done! Auntie!

 

[melissafaith]

Yep, i think Haley looks damn good too.
melnjes: Thanks for the compliment.

 

[ibs]

a couple of fotos from the trip.

 

[ibs]

a couple more..

 

[Pro Image]

Hi Pro Image,

I don't think I'm qualified to be a stylist but I wouldn't mind contributing ideas if I could.

In the absence of a stylist or art-director, photographers should be able to do a little styling or directing themselves. If not, photographers may shoot images that look weird (to say the least).

One of the best ways to improve styling and directing abilities is to do some studying and researching, especially before a shoot. Study the images in contemporary magazines, fashion catalogues, apparel advertisements, etc. Some even study/research culture and trends if they are going to shoot images which originated from overseas.

Suggested improvements:

1A) Use cowboy boots to add strength to the cowboy/cowgirl look. (Search the Internet for "cowboy boots" to see how they look like.)

1B) Replace the black leather jacket with something more cowboyish. (Search the web for "cowboy" or "cowgirl" images -- there should be many done in the US, perhaps by FHM US.)

1C) Shoot in a more open (perhaps bushy/sandy/natural) environment. (There should be more open spaces outside of Singapore since the shoot was in Malaysia.) Harsh lighting? So be it! Cowboys and cowgirls are outdoor people, scorched by the sun, not delicate fragile subjects that need to be lit 24/7 by unrealistic flat even lighting.

2A) Use black leather shoes. These could come with laces or a single strap over the foot. (Similarly, search the Internet to find images on Japanese school girl images. Japanese anime and school girl uniforms have a significant following in Singapore but surprisingly the shoes used in the shoot lack the accuracy.)

2B) Use baggy elephant socks. (The trend with such baggy socks has died down long ago, according to a Japanese friend of mine. However, through research, many images of Japanese school girls are still pictured with the baggy socks. Using such socks can be a matter of personal preference.)

I understand that cowboy/cowgirl clothes may be difficult to find in Singapore but not impossible. If impossible, buy online. I'm sure the Japanese sailor uniform was bought online from overseas. If the organiser/stylist could pay so much $$$ for a sailor uniform (I know because I have 1), I'm sure he/she could pay for the cowboy boots.

If the styling is incomplete or inaccurate, then either abort the idea or shoot objectively (to exclude the legs so that the boots/shoes don't appear in the image.)

Thanks for the tips and pointers. We make sure next time it will fit the models and the enviroment together as one. Looks like Joanne and the gang will be at the drawing board to crack our heads.

We love to have the models in the right outfit and right enviroment but not all the time we can do that. Sometimes changing the ideas is new and fresh to our eyes. As for the Cowboy Gal does not mean she needs to be in the farm with meadows and cows all the time. For Sailormoon Gal, well the long socks thingy kinda of passe already. So if we do not try something new, the trend will still remain the same all the time. So we are the trend setters.......haha.

We wanted to to more research and study more ideas but due to our time constrain, we had to settle what was best for the models and photographers. We are happy to hear some comments to improve our next outing.

Oh BTW, if you happen to planned this kinda of trip with 6 models or more please let us know. We would love to join and learn more to from experts like you.

 

[Pro Image]

a couple of fotos from the trip.

Imran.....fantastic photos! Sudut foto Imran sama macam saya punya.

 

[Lense 18-400 f1.0 IS]

We love to have the models in the right outfit and right enviroment but not all the time we can do that. Sometimes changing the ideas is new and fresh to our eyes. As for the Cowboy Gal does not mean she needs to be in the farm with meadows and cows all the time. For Sailormoon Gal, well the long socks thingy kinda of passe already. So if we do not try something new, the trend will still remain the same all the time. So we are the trend setters.......haha.

Mistakes cannot be hidden, its obvious, just accept and admit. All outfits are passe anyway. Nothing new or fresh

Oh BTW, if you happen to planned this kinda of trip with 6 models or more please let us know. We would love to join and learn more to from experts like you.

Dun have to be sacarstic, be humble. Learn to accept. Will learn more