Singapore Riverside Walk - Nearly got beaten up by angmoh.

[sjackal]

I think it's not that the father was drunk, but it's the case that you try to take a photo of his naked baby.. In my opinion, photographers must be more careful on what subject they can or cannot take (or at least be more sensitive)

Really nice pics, I esp like the classy lady and moody man. Just be careful, taking naked kids = paedophiles to some.

i think you asked for it. frankly speaking, the west tends to be overwary of paedophiles, which is why in europe it is best not to even take snaps of children without asking for permission and with favourable response from the parents in the first place.

there, the police also tend to give more trouble regarding such issues. do that in europe and you risk spoiling your holiday. just fyi.

:thumbsup: Thanx for the tips and advices! That thought never crossed my mind, even though I have many western friends. I am new to street photography so I guess its a newbie mistake. Being local, what I thought was, 'cute, surely will make a good candid pic.' Maybe it won't trigger a reaction if the baby wasn't in the nude.

This doesn't stop me from continue to take pictures of people or kids close up. But I have to note the advice about the naked kid thing.

 

[sjackal]

Forget about naked girl.. Composition of photos are good. Nice pictures..

Where got naked girl! Thanx for the compliments though.

I came here for beating up pics

Sorry to disappoint! But its' not going to be an easy feat.

 

[cg171s]

well, good thing that you learn something from your experience

I just want to say that in street photography you just have to be more careful on what subjects you're taking. There are some that I would say quite sensitive subjects such as kids/babies (not just the naked ones), street performers (especially those that sells pictures, photo, etc), disabled persons (I don't mean to offend anybody), cops/soldiers, etc.

Those subject might have various reasons why they dont like their photo taken, I know that ppl says "if it's in public space then you can snap away", but for me personally, I'd rather be human first and photographer second :bsmilie:

I don't mean that you cannot take pictures of those subjects but, just be more considerate and if it's possible, ask for their permissions to take their pictures, or maybe engage them in conversation and then ask if you can take their photo or not. If yes, shoot away but if no, then respect them and move on (besides it's not the only subject in the world, right? :bsmilie

That's why for me, street photography is one of the hardest "genre" of photography, but in the same time, it's very interesting


btw, sorry for the long post.... :sweat:

 

[sjackal]

well, good thing that you learn something from your experience

I just want to say that in street photography you just have to be more careful on what subjects you're taking. There are some that I would say quite sensitive subjects such as kids/babies (not just the naked ones), street performers (especially those that sells pictures, photo, etc), disabled persons (I don't mean to offend anybody), cops/soldiers, etc.

Those subject might have various reasons why they dont like their photo taken, I know that ppl says "if it's in public space then you can snap away", but for me personally, I'd rather be human first and photographer second

I don't mean that you cannot take pictures of those subjects but, just be more considerate and if it's possible, ask for their permissions to take their pictures, or maybe engage them in conversation and then ask if you can take their photo or not. If yes, shoot away but if no, then respect them and move on (besides it's not the only subject in the world, right? :bsmilie

That's why for me, street photography is one of the hardest "genre" of photography, but in the same time, it's very interesting


btw, sorry for the long post.... :sweat:

Thanx for the reply. No offense bro, but different individual different styles. When permission is asked, it might become a posed shot which might sometimes becomes unnatural, though not always. I know as an amateur, and as a beginner at that, talking about 'styles' sounds too far fetched and may even sound arrogant in a laughable way but this is just my humble opinion. :embrass:

I do seek permission though, but not with words but with eye contact, smile and then lifting the camera to the eye, if the subject's body language objects, then I find a new scene, new target.

 

[cg171s]

No worries bro, that's why I said street photography is actually quite hard.
There are so many subjects to choose from but in the same time there are also lots of limitations and things to consider (e.g taking pictures unnoticed, how to compose, how to isolate the main subject from the busy backgrounds, etc.)

That's why I enjoy works from photographers such as Joe Wigfall (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75158779@N00/).

Go to that link and I think you might enjoy it :bsmilie:

Ok bro, looking forward for more works from you... :thumbsup:
Cheers

 

[vonlichenstein]

hey, i really like your shots. i see you're using the same set up as i am, though i've yet to try a walkabout.

just a matter of curiousity, what iso were you using? (i know i should pull the exif info, but i can't download programmes into my office com so i can't do it) and, did you do any post production on those shots or are they straight from the cam sans editing and cropping?

P.S. post more pictures! i would really like to see more shots from you

 

[kenbong]

All the photo looked amazing for me... Hope 1 day can have the same skill as you.

 

[sjackal]

No worries bro, that's why I said street photography is actually quite hard.
There are so many subjects to choose from but in the same time there are also lots of limitations and things to consider (e.g taking pictures unnoticed, how to compose, how to isolate the main subject from the busy backgrounds, etc.)

That's why I enjoy works from photographers such as Joe Wigfall (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75158779@N00/).

Go to that link and I think you might enjoy it :bsmilie:

Ok bro, looking forward for more works from you... :thumbsup:
Cheers

Thanx for the link man, will check later.

 

[sjackal]

hey, i really like your shots. i see you're using the same set up as i am, though i've yet to try a walkabout.

just a matter of curiousity, what iso were you using? (i know i should pull the exif info, but i can't download programmes into my office com so i can't do it) and, did you do any post production on those shots or are they straight from the cam sans editing and cropping?

P.S. post more pictures! i would really like to see more shots from you

Somehow the exif info is lost after I resized the pic with Arcsoft photoeditor, a free program I use. I am trying to switch to PS though.

Are you using Nikon D80 too?

I use Auto ISO and let the camera automatically bump it up the ISO as needed till a max of 1600 without affecting my base shutter speed of 1/30, when it gets dark enough that 1600 can't handle then the D80 starts to use slower shutter speed.

Post editing for some pics but not much. I shoot in JPG.

 

[sjackal]

All the photo looked amazing for me... Hope 1 day can have the same skill as you.

Thanx for compliment but you really should aim higher. :embrass:

 

[vonlichenstein]

Somehow the exif info is lost after I resized the pic with Arcsoft photoeditor, a free program I use. I am trying to switch to PS though.

Are you using Nikon D80 too?

I use Auto ISO and let the camera automatically bump it up the ISO as needed till a max of 1600 without affecting my base shutter speed of 1/30, when it gets dark enough that 1600 can't handle then the D80 starts to use slower shutter speed.

Post editing for some pics but not much. I shoot in JPG.

yep i'm using a D80 too. how about white balance and lens? i assume you use shutter priority?

haha sorry i have so many questions, just trying to figure out how you achieve your shots, to compare them to what i use to get similar effects.

 

[sjackal]

yep i'm using a D80 too. how about white balance and lens? i assume you use shutter priority?

haha sorry i have so many questions, just trying to figure out how you achieve your shots, to compare them to what i use to get similar effects.

Yes, apperture priority, I document the details of my walks on my blog here:

http://anton-c.blogspot.com/2008/07/riverside-walk-part-1.html

 

[lightning]

Thanx for the reply. No offense bro, but different individual different styles. When permission is asked, it might become a posed shot which might sometimes becomes unnatural, though not always. I know as an amateur, and as a beginner at that, talking about 'styles' sounds too far fetched and may even sound arrogant in a laughable way but this is just my humble opinion. :embrass:

I do seek permission though, but not with words but with eye contact, smile and then lifting the camera to the eye, if the subject's body language objects, then I find a new scene, new target.

Get a 500mm and shot from Far...:bsmilie: So even if he wants to catch you, you can run and hide.;p

 

[Prismatic]

Somehow, I find the saturation a bit too high, some of the colours are a bit too intense.

 

[starysnow]

I especially love the riverside dining, workmen on the machine and friends gather. The sky color just look amazing, especially the one for the workmen on machine.

I can never do street photography well 'cos I am always very conscious of people knowing I'm taking a photo of them even if they might not notice. So love to look at lovely street photography like yours.

The photos for the OLs, I find the background a bit messy for my liking as compared to your evening and b/w photos. Otherwise love most of the photos taken.

 

[sjackal]

Get a 500mm and shot from Far...:bsmilie: So even if he wants to catch you, you can run and hide.;p

Maybe he won't notice in the first place at that distance, but then again, it becomes spying.

Somehow, I find the saturation a bit too high, some of the colours are a bit too intense.

Thanx! Good to heard pointers, will note.

I especially love the riverside dining, workmen on the machine and friends gather. The sky color just look amazing, especially the one for the workmen on machine.

I can never do street photography well 'cos I am always very conscious of people knowing I'm taking a photo of them even if they might not notice. So love to look at lovely street photography like yours.

The photos for the OLs, I find the background a bit messy for my liking as compared to your evening and b/w photos. Otherwise love most of the photos taken.

Thank you, indeed, and agreed. The restaurateur showing her menu too. I had to blur the face of the approaching man in photo editor so as not to distract it further.

 

[Manda]

:thumbsup: Thanx for the tips and advices! That thought never crossed my mind, even though I have many western friends. I am new to street photography so I guess its a newbie mistake. Being local, what I thought was, 'cute, surely will make a good candid pic.' Maybe it won't trigger a reaction if the baby wasn't in the nude.

This doesn't stop me from continue to take pictures of people or kids close up. But I have to note the advice about the naked kid thing.

Hi, I've been reading this post over and over again as its a topic that interests me - I took a course on street photography this year and found it really hard.

As an ang mo, photographer and teacher can I just reiterate what others have said ~ you have to be especially careful when taking photos of any children, whether naked or clothed.

All it takes is a smile or a nod towards the parents before you press the shutter; to capture a child's portrait without permission in today's sensitive climate is naive. The offense it causes is disproportionate to the 'great' photo you hope it will be.

Keep snapping though, I've been walking home along this stretch every day this week and love the area. You've taken time to depict it well and presented it as more than the tourist trap that it is.

Share more when you find the time

 

[sjackal]

Hi, I've been reading this post over and over again as its a topic that interests me - I took a course on street photography this year and found it really hard.

As an ang mo, photographer and teacher can I just reiterate what others have said ~ you have to be especially careful when taking photos of any children, whether naked or clothed.

All it takes is a smile or a nod towards the parents before you press the shutter; to capture a child's portrait without permission in today's sensitive climate is naive. The offense it causes is disproportionate to the 'great' photo you hope it will be.

Keep snapping though, I've been walking home along this stretch every day this week and love the area. You've taken time to depict it well and presented it as more than the tourist trap that it is.

Share more when you find the time

Thanx Manda, will do so if I have the time to practice more street stuff, I didn't get very good results from my recent walks though.

 

[sjackal]

By the way I hope this thread and the replies won't deter other folks from the hobby.

It doesn't mean that I snap pics of a pretty girl I am a sex maniac or stalker, a child and I am a paedophile, pic of a handsome dude and I am a gay, or photograph a building I becomes a spying terrorist trying to bomb it up. :dunno:

Then again its important to exercise common sense, won't attempt another cute but nude baby shot without permission, but normal kids running around I will still take though, likewise if you go photographing a protected building your asking for trouble. :nono:

That's why I feel that street photography is interesting, everyone likes to look at street pics, because these pics tells stories and it's 'alive', but not everyone wants to step out of the comfort zone and take them.

 

[habster]

Some nice photos dude. But how do we differentiate "street/candid photography" vs. "invasion of privacy"? I wouldn't want anyone taking my photo without my knowledge also.