Sigma DP-1


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So fast you got one already !
Any more stock left?
Did you take those shots in RAW or jpeg?
hehe... erm.. wat can i say, sigma/ricoh sg's service is really good :) been bugging them for awhile.
last set would be the testing set from the IT show, but more stock, a handful only, should be coming in sometime next week, depends on sigma jp n when the send it over.

all dp1 shots shot in raw.
 

Where is all that vignetting coming from?

Can pm me where you got your camera?
 

After looking at the images from a pro who shoots with SD9, 10 & 14 and now also DP-1, I am quite keen to give the Foveon sensor a try. His images are really sharp, detailed and beautifully coloured.
http://www.rytterfalk.com/

Now that the SD14 is available locally at a more reasonable price, I'm in 2 minds as to whether to get the DP-1 or the SD14. :think:
 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/intosite/sets/72157604086305599/detail/

some photos, i like to tweak colors, so these might not be a good indication.

only photos 101-112 did not have colors tweaked. they have been cropped, vignette added. But colors are straight from x3f-jpg
The photos looked somewhat under-exposed, especially with the added vignetting.
I thought the general consensus in the Sigma DSLR forum in dpreview was that with the Foveon sensor, it's best to over-expose the shots a bit to get better shadow details and then recover the highlights during RAW conversion as the sensor retains details better in the highlights than in the shadows.
 

erm.. am still getting used to the cam, sometimes i setup the exposure, forget to focus, sometimes focus forget the meter.. haha

vignetting is added in processing, so the corners or bout 1/3 of the img is about 1stop under too.

am trying to get an idea of how much to over expose under what kinda light situations.
 

mmm..... still waiting for my 10-20mm lens. bought the SD14 but no lens.... :cry:

http://www.rytterfalk.com/ is good right?

one of the reasons I decided to get foveon a try. Did you see the high ISO12800 B&W images? The high ISO has color blotches but in B&W they look very good, no banding like the olympus high ISO images.

Makes me think about shooting B&W :)
 

mmm..... still waiting for my 10-20mm lens. bought the SD14 but no lens.... :cry:

http://www.rytterfalk.com/ is good right?

one of the reasons I decided to get foveon a try. Did you see the high ISO12800 B&W images? The high ISO has color blotches but in B&W they look very good, no banding like the olympus high ISO images.

Makes me think about shooting B&W :)
haha he is good. but must know tat he's pro sigma user.. don't really highlight much bout the shortcomings of the dp1.
i took the stuff with a pinch of salt.. to prepare myself for the worst, told myself only the image quality is good at only iso 100..
so everything else is a bonus...

ha.
 

Yeah, Carl Rytterfalk is a very pro sigma user - he's got a lot of good samples of the DP1 though. I like the videos out of the DP1 - they have a good 3-d look, too bad it is only 320x240 and not 640x280.

A lot of chroma noise at ISO 800 (quite ugly purple patches in shadows), but keeps it's detail better than all other compacts at that ISO. Perhaps good for B&W at ISO 800 or use some NR software.

Another user review of the DP-1 (from a non foveon/sigma user)

I got my DP1 last thursday from AC-Foto in Germany for 777 €. I ordered it about 4 weeks ago.

Some information about me: my main interest is landscape-photography, but only as a hobby not as a profession (I’m an automotive engineer). I have about 20 years experience with nature-photography and normally use a Canon 5 D and a Lumix LX-2. My girlfriend has a Fuji F30. So I can compare the DP1 to these cameras. After three days of use my first imperessions are:

The camera is quite small, nearly as small as the LX-2. The design is aesthetically not as pleasing as that of the LX-2 (or of the Ricoh GRD), but the feeling, ergonomics and haptics are quite good. Everything feels solid, even the extended lens.

The AF is quite slow, much slower than that of the LX-2, F30 or 5D. But besides the lack of speed it is quite usable, it is precise and has no problems even in dim light.

If you go to MF the camera is very fast. The picture is taken immediately after pressing the button. MF is good, but I’m missing the DOF-Information of the LX-2, which is sometimes quite helpful.

The lens of the DP1 is excellent with very good sharpness from corner to corner even at F4.

Best performance is from F4 to F8, at F11 it gets significantly worse (due to diffraction). At F4 there is a slight but noticeabel light fall-off at the corners which gets better at higher aperture-values.

The performance of the Foveon imager is very good. At his native resolution of 4,7 MP the pictures look much better than these of the LX-2 or F30. If you interpolate either up or down (for example up to 7 MP or down to 2 MP with some USM after each interpolation ) the difference between LX-2, F30 and DP1 is much smaller. The difference is noticeable, but a lot less impressive compared with the native resolution. The dynamic range of the foveon imager is very good, much better than that of the LX-2 or F30, and nearly as good as that of the 5D. Altogether the IQ of the DP1 is definitely not as good as that of the 5D, but I have never expected the DP1 to be better than the 5D.

The optical viewfinder is of good quality with a bright undistorted view and is quite small. The camera fits in very small bags even with the OVF attached. The main drawback of the OVF is that it is not very easy to see the lines if you wear glasses.

I did some tests with a 46 mm Heliopan polarizer (normal size, not slimline) and no vignetting occurred. The same with the Cokin A-Holder. This means, that I can use graduated neutral density filter and a polarizer for landscape-photography with the DP1 without any problems.

What else am I missing: The LCD-Display is not as good as the displays on the LX-2 or F30. It is much slower and coarser, especially in low-light situations. The maximum exposure time is 15 s, which is sometimes to short for me. I would prefer at least one minute. I would also prefer simultaneously written RAW+JPEG, which is not possible with the DP1 at the moment. This would make a first examination and sorting with adobe bridge much easier.

The Sigma RAW-conversion-software (PC version) is good, but I’m missing some functions: If I use the auto-function on a batch of pictures everything has to be auto. You can for example not set the satuarion to +1 for all pictures and let everything else be converted automatically. Therefore the only option is to convert picture by picture or do a batch conversion with saturation set to 0 and make a batch correction afterwards in photoshop.

To sum up: I like the camera very much and it will substitute my LX-2 as a light-wight and small supplement to my 5D. I will take the DP1 on a trip to iceland in August. Afterwards I can probably show you some nice landscape-pictures taken with the DP-1.
 

Yeah, Carl Rytterfalk is a very pro sigma user - he's got a lot of good samples of the DP1 though. I like the videos out of the DP1 - they have a good 3-d look, too bad it is only 320x240 and not 640x280.

A lot of chroma noise at ISO 800 (quite ugly purple patches in shadows), but keeps it's detail better than all other compacts at that ISO. Perhaps good for B&W at ISO 800 or use some NR software.

Another user review of the DP-1 (from a non foveon/sigma user)
The video i must say, only will you get nice frame rates in nice sunny/bright day light. Cause it's still choppy if in bad lighting, indoor tungsten... dunno if you know wat i mean. but yeah.

LCD display, to me, does not tell anything about the photo's colors at all. I dunno if it's just mine, but the photos look super desaturated. In low light, looks like i'm looking through a NVG, night vision goggles.
The 'sluggishness' of the LCD varies according on the lighting. Bright - cloudy, it's ok, seems like any other camera. It only feels really really slow, bad frame rates, when in low light. So i presumme its more of the Foveon not being able to send enough info to the LCD fast enough and not the fault of the LCD itself.
 

after reading so much.. i will wait when DP3 is out..
And when Canon makes G-P3 with 1.6X..
Bestest is Pana with Tz-P3 with 1.6X..
 

mmm..... still waiting for my 10-20mm lens. bought the SD14 but no lens.... :cry:

http://www.rytterfalk.com/ is good right?

one of the reasons I decided to get foveon a try. Did you see the high ISO12800 B&W images? The high ISO has color blotches but in B&W they look very good, no banding like the olympus high ISO images.

Makes me think about shooting B&W :)
So have you got your lens yet?
Waiting for your first impression of the SD-14 before deciding to buy or not to buy leh. :)
 

So have you got your lens yet?
Waiting for your first impression of the SD-14 before deciding to buy or not to buy leh. :)

supposedly tmr. will do a 1 to 1 comparison of the 10-20mm+SD14 and 11-22mm+E330.

what lens you thinking of getting for the SD14 if you decide to buy?
 

supposedly tmr. will do a 1 to 1 comparison of the 10-20mm+SD14 and 11-22mm+E330.

what lens you thinking of getting for the SD14 if you decide to buy?
I would probably get the 18-50mm f/2 first.... to be followed by the 10-20mm later if I like the output of the SD-14. :)
 

went all the way to sigma and found that my SD14 has one pin bent at the CF slot.... :(

so now both the body and lens is at sigma..... so xian.
 

went all the way to sigma and found that my SD14 has one pin bent at the CF slot.... :(

so now both the body and lens is at sigma..... so xian.
Like that I might be testing out the SD14 before you liao. :think:
 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/intosite/sets/72157604086305599/detail/

some photos, i like to tweak colors, so these might not be a good indication.

only photos 101-112 did not have colors tweaked. they have been cropped, vignette added. But colors are straight from x3f-jpg

Quite a lot of the photos look great here!

I'm quite interested to the DP-1. Pity about the price.
If it doesn't fall soon, I'll have to ship in from US. :sweat:
 

Quite a lot of the photos look great here!

I'm quite interested to the DP-1. Pity about the price.
If it doesn't fall soon, I'll have to ship in from US. :sweat:
ah thanks..
quite bad shots actually.
plus the weather the past few days is quite hard.
iso 200 f4 1/30-60 at 9am... tat to me is quite irritating.. really wished the lens was faster.. haha

i recommend wait a while if you don't really need it.. cause i think the raw speeds n handling will really put alot of ppl off..
wait till it's like all over the shops, and alot of people buy it.. i am quite sure alot of them will end up re-selling it..
then can get it cheap.. haha

cheers
 

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