Sigma DP-1


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in sigma's own words...

"Sigma has developed an integral-lens compact camera with the specs of a full-size, high end SLR. In other words, the DP1 has all the functions of a full-spec digital SLR, packed into a compact camera with a built-in lens. Here at sigma, we focused all our resources on achieving the nearly imposible. Sigma is not about creating run-of-the-mill photographs, or pursuing image quality defined by numbers. We give you a compact camera with the potential to capture exactly what you see and what you feel, with no compromize."

hmm....
does seem like it's got all the features of a dslr - but fixed focal length lens....

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/cameras/dp1_spec.asp

and there are some sample pics here too....

http://sigma-dp1.com/sample-photo/index.html

The sample pics are quite nice. Can't believe that the pics are from a camera which I think is a normal compact, which in reality is a compact with DSLR size sensor.
 

in sigma's own words...

"Sigma has developed an integral-lens compact camera with the specs of a full-size, high end SLR. In other words, the DP1 has all the functions of a full-spec digital SLR, packed into a compact camera with a built-in lens. Here at sigma, we focused all our resources on achieving the nearly imposible. Sigma is not about creating run-of-the-mill photographs, or pursuing image quality defined by numbers. We give you a compact camera with the potential to capture exactly what you see and what you feel, with no compromize."

hmm....
does seem like it's got all the features of a dslr - but fixed focal length lens....

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/cameras/dp1_spec.asp

and there are some sample pics here too....

http://sigma-dp1.com/sample-photo/index.html


All images at ISO100
wondering how is its performance at high ISO
 

henessy - there is no need to create a duplicate thread on the DP-1.

threads merged.
 

honestly the high iso performance is bad...

this is what i feel from a quick test shot at 400 iso on tat cam compared to my grd 1 at 400 iso..

doesn't have alot of noise compared to the grd, but have these weird purplelish/pinkish blotches everywhere, looks really bad on skin, like thy're drunk or something...
 

As a GRD user, I agree with 'intosite'. The camera feels "too oblonglish", unlike the GRD which still has a bit of protruding hand grip. Actually at 250g, DP-1 is heavier than GRD2 which weighs 168g.

Anyway, the Sigma SD14 is a much better buy at $1,399 (IT Show 2008 price) consider that it is a DSLR and it used to sell for above $4K.

actually SD14 is selling for USD$599..... So the $1399 is not exactly cheap. err... do they actually sell sigma mount lens in singapore? how much? 2x more expensive?
 

honestly, sigma stuff in sg not tat cheap..

at the show, the 30mm f1.4 lens was going for $770...

i got mine from HK, for $480, paid with credit somemore, cash was slightly cheaper...
 

And a Foveon sensor is no LiveMOS sensor.... not that the LiveMOS sensor is that great but the Foveon sensor is mostly just hype.... from the images posted so far on the internet, there doesn't appear to be anything special about them that a LiveMOS, CMOS, CCD, or SuperCCD sensor could not have produced. What's more, it's noisy just like a normal P&S digicam... and it doesn't come with image stabilisation even. If it's a pocketable P&S digicams that's desired, then there are tonnes of them around that would cost half the price, have more features and can produce equally acceptable quality images.

If I was to buy it, it would probably be just for its collector's value and not because it is value for money. :(

regarding the image quality, I would disagree..
It appears outdoor daytime shots from DP1 is far superior to others like Pana TZ..Canon 850 etc.. they are free from glare.. and sharp to the core.. ;p
 

regarding the image quality, I would disagree..
It appears outdoor daytime shots from DP1 is far superior to others like Pana TZ..Canon 850 etc.. they are free from glare.. and sharp to the core.. ;p
I definitely agree that it is sharp in daytime outdoor shots. I actually find it quite strange that the DOF is not much different whether the aperture is at f/4 or f/11.
But are we going to be happy to spend $1600 for a 'part-time' camera... one that's only good outdoors in good light and not so good at night or indoors in low light? :dunno:
 

regarding the image quality, I would disagree..
It appears outdoor daytime shots from DP1 is far superior to others like Pana TZ..Canon 850 etc.. they are free from glare.. and sharp to the core.. ;p

Personally, why do I want to settle for another run-of-the-mill mp chasing P&S when I already have the Fuji E900? The DP-1 will add another dimension to my photography.
 

I told those people at the counter that they won't sell much if they keep the price at $1,599 cause the camera is selling for only USD799 in the US and everybody will buy from there.
 

Sigma at IT Show.

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I told those people at the counter that they won't sell much if they keep the price at $1,599 cause the camera is selling for only USD799 in the US and everybody will buy from there.
haha told tat them too and also for the other items.. but ther person says no choice, boss set price one..

haha

that aside, they couldn't give prices for the accessories and when they will be available.
tried the optical view finder, the framelines not as clearly visible as the ricoh ones.
 

Commented earlier that 1.6k is really bad pricing - Sigma Sg must be dreaming to think they can sell it at that price. Even 1.2k is a stretch.

Really would like to see the DP1 succeed as that will convince other manufacturers to make something similar - if it dies, other manufacturers (who incidently already have prototypes and plans) might put these plans on the back burner.

Anybody have any samples shots from the DP1 from the IT show ?

This is an ISO 800 shot from the net from the DP1 (settings were f/5 1/60s, so fairly low light)
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Original size here http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2308018919_dfed0ffc6e_o.jpg

Looks pretty decent for ISO 800 - comparing to other compacts.
 

tried the optical view finder, the framelines not as clearly visible as the ricoh ones.

Yeah, read that it is a bit plasticky. Just buy the ricoh one for the GR digital II and use it on the DP1 ;p
 

yeah.. but those has 21mm framelines too..

thinking of voigtlander's 28 mini...

i have a shot at the IT show, but it's really bad, haha... can't seem to open the raw one though..
 

I told those people at the counter that they won't sell much if they keep the price at $1,599 cause the camera is selling for only USD799 in the US and everybody will buy from there.

It seems the same company is also promoting the Ricoh GRD2, equally expensive at close to $1200. It seems they are using the conversion rate of 2SGD to 1USD.
 

I am probably getting the DP1 from the US of the street prices here are ridiculously high. I just managed to download a copy of SPP and played with the RAW files taken at ISO400, they looked really good. Too bad I don't have the RAW file taken at ISO800 cause the jpeg looked rubbish.
 

erm.. dunno wat to say..
i think some people might not like the dp1, some might. for it's price, i think it will great bring out this 'feeling' of it. if it was much cheaper, don't think many would complain, then again i might be wrong.

here's one i shot in the train with it at iso 800..
http://flickr.com/photos/intosite/2320897049/in/set-72157604077303190/

i touch up all my photos quite a bit, so i think it's not a good reference to get an idea of the cam's performance.

handling wise, my rough gut feel, it's definately not as good as the grd 1, i don't like grd2's non- full turn thumb wheel..
but the dp1 handling is somewhat slightly better than the canon g9.. someone might argue otherwise, but tat's how i feel.

now to figure how to strip the rubber grip on the grd n stick it onto the dp1... haha
cheers

added a quick comparison,
dp1 (after interpolating to 14.1mp):
http://flickr.com/photos/intosite/2321848896/sizes/o/
grd:
http://flickr.com/photos/intosite/2321845294/sizes/o/
 

erm.. dunno wat to say..
i think some people might not like the dp1, some might. for it's price, i think it will great bring out this 'feeling' of it. if it was much cheaper, don't think many would complain, then again i might be wrong.

here's one i shot in the train with it at iso 800..
http://flickr.com/photos/intosite/2320897049/in/set-72157604077303190/

i touch up all my photos quite a bit, so i think it's not a good reference to get an idea of the cam's performance.

handling wise, my rough gut feel, it's definately not as good as the grd 1, i don't like grd2's non- full turn thumb wheel..
but the dp1 handling is somewhat slightly better than the canon g9.. someone might argue otherwise, but tat's how i feel.

now to figure how to strip the rubber grip on the grd n stick it onto the dp1... haha
cheers

added a quick comparison,
dp1 (after interpolating to 14.1mp):
http://flickr.com/photos/intosite/2321848896/sizes/o/
grd:
http://flickr.com/photos/intosite/2321845294/sizes/o/

So fast you got one already !
Any more stock left?
Did you take those shots in RAW or jpeg?
 

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