Sigma DP-1

[dRebelXT]

so it's true DP1 is not for shooting portraits?
it looks like skin tend to become green..
For example this one.. dunno whether it's white balance or the lady is ill?
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/DP1/DP1INMP1.HTM

 

[Parchiao]

Crazy! $1.6K is a stupid price.

I will drop by at the counter and will ask them to sell me at $800 * 1.4 at most. :bsmilie:

 

[calebk]

so it's true DP1 is not for shooting portraits?
it looks like skin tend to become green..
For example this one.. dunno whether it's white balance or the lady is ill?
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/DP1/DP1INMP1.HTM

IMHO, this can be fixed in 1 min by warming up the skin tone a bit. I believe it's a WB issue, as the detail rendered is still very much amazing for a compact camera.

Anyway, the skin tone didn't look green in that picture.

 

[leews2001]

just talked to sigma again..

sians.. $1600... plus only pre-order at IT show..
they will have it there to test..

will be selling under one of the big electronics gaint. not cathay, alan etc etc..

so i guess tat's why price not too attractive..

that is really sucky. perhaps shd just buy from japan or the states.

 

[limlh]

If they want to sell it at $1600, then it's goodbye DP-1 for me. Some mindset in Sigma Singapore really needs to be replaced quickly.

 

[intosite]

yeah just picked up my ricoh from there,

they said that they only have a set for display and the first actual shipment will be sent from jp on monday, ~+2 days before reaching SG.

so still preorder..

did a quick calc, 800usd +100sgd fedex + 7% gst < $1.6k...

 

[Parchiao]

Just had a chance to have a hands on with the DP1. Took some photos with my own card. ISO800 is a waste of time if you are not into PS. Camera focussing is damn slow indoors, as slow as a Sony R1. Definitely not worth the $1,599 that does not come with anything. $1,200 also hard to justify. At the end of the day, it is still more of an outdoor camera.

 

[tomcat]

The forthcoming and cheaper Olympus E-420 and 25mm f/2.8 pancake combination have made the DP1 kind of redundant. Sigma should immediately lower the price for the DP1 if they do not want to have stocks of unsold DP1 languishing in their warehouses. :think:

 

[btfiend]

$1.6k... guess they can keep it in their warehouse for a long time.
If Olympus release a 14/2.8 pancake to go with their smallish E-420 it could well take over the DP-1. Hey don't just stop there, produce a trio set of wide - normal - tele pancake lenses and it could be a real big hit.

 

[intosite]

yeah, the sigma feels 'lighter' than the ricoh grd 1, cause i think of the size:weight ratio..

feels 'plastic' too, cause the paint job is not the matt textured kind you find on the GRD.

AF's slow, but feels the same as my ricoh grd.

Menu's a bit hard to see with the 'live-view' as the background.

Keep mistaking the thumb dial for shutter/aperture controls as like a SLR or the ricoh grd.

Iso 400 jpeg is bad.. keep having these red blotches. looks really bad especially on ppl.

Flash performance/metering is better than my ricoh grd.

Write raw to memory card, way fast than grd 1. but my friend says its slower than grd 2.

anyways, i still pre-ordered 1.

 

[synapseman]

Wow. $1.6k?

Seriously that's a bit too much for me. I'd rather buy a Canon G9 (even though I'm aware they are of a different class of camera)

 

[intosite]

Wow. $1.6k?

Seriously that's a bit too much for me. I'd rather buy a Canon G9 (even though I'm aware they are of a different class of camera)

Tried the G9 before, i rather stick with the GRD as to it.

Honestly i think the feel of the GRD1/2 is the best. The DP1 doesn't even come close.

Only way i can imagine to make the DP1 feel 'better', is to stick lots of lead tape to it.. haha so it is heavier and the size/volume:weight ratio better matches the GRD's.

 

[photobum]

As a GRD user, I agree with 'intosite'. The camera feels "too oblonglish", unlike the GRD which still has a bit of protruding hand grip. Actually at 250g, DP-1 is heavier than GRD2 which weighs 168g.

Anyway, the Sigma SD14 is a much better buy at $1,399 (IT Show 2008 price) consider that it is a DSLR and it used to sell for above $4K.

 

[synapseman]

As a GRD user, I agree with 'intosite'. The camera feels "too oblonglish", unlike the GRD which still has a bit of protruding hand grip. Actually at 250g, DP-1 is heavier than GRD2 which weighs 168g.

Anyway, the Sigma SD14 is a much better buy at $1,399 (IT Show 2008 price) consider that it is a DSLR and it used to sell for above $4K.

I still wouldn't get an SD14. It's not the camera itself, but the entire system. Too few users around, so it'll be hard to sell off or buy accessories the camera. This is the experience I had when I invested in the Sigma SA-series film SLRs.

 

[photobum]

I still wouldn't get an SD14. It's not the camera itself, but the entire system. Too few users around, so it'll be hard to sell off or buy accessories the camera. This is the experience I had when I invested in the Sigma SA-series film SLRs.

True.... However, I am comparing DP-1 to SD14 here. Price and performance wise, SD14 is so much more attractive.

 

[tomcat]

As a GRD user, I agree with 'intosite'. The camera feels "too oblonglish", unlike the GRD which still has a bit of protruding hand grip. Actually at 250g, DP-1 is heavier than GRD2 which weighs 168g.

Anyway, the Sigma SD14 is a much better buy at $1,399 (IT Show 2008 price) consider that it is a DSLR and it used to sell for above $4K.

So cheap ! Maybe I should rush down to grab a set. :think:
It is both a normal camera as well as a IR-modified camera as the AA/IR Cut filter is very easily user removeable.

 

[Henessy]

Hi, may I know what is so gd about this compact. I wa shocked when I saw its pricing of about $1500 at the IT show, a price that is equivalent to a normal consumer DSLR in the current market!

 

[limlh]

The forthcoming and cheaper Olympus E-420 and 25mm f/2.8 pancake combination have made the DP1 kind of redundant. Sigma should immediately lower the price for the DP1 if they do not want to have stocks of unsold DP1 languishing in their warehouses. :think:

The Oly E-420 is hardly a Foveon, and no matter how you make a DSLR small, it still doesn't have the feel of a pocketable P&S. I would see E-420 as an alternative to the heavy DSLR, just like the legendary OM-2.

 

[tomcat]

And a Foveon sensor is no LiveMOS sensor.... not that the LiveMOS sensor is that great but the Foveon sensor is mostly just hype.... from the images posted so far on the internet, there doesn't appear to be anything special about them that a LiveMOS, CMOS, CCD, or SuperCCD sensor could not have produced. What's more, it's noisy just like a normal P&S digicam... and it doesn't come with image stabilisation even. If it's a pocketable P&S digicams that's desired, then there are tonnes of them around that would cost half the price, have more features and can produce equally acceptable quality images.

If I was to buy it, it would probably be just for its collector's value and not because it is value for money.

 

[mogwai]

in sigma's own words...

"Sigma has developed an integral-lens compact camera with the specs of a full-size, high end SLR. In other words, the DP1 has all the functions of a full-spec digital SLR, packed into a compact camera with a built-in lens. Here at sigma, we focused all our resources on achieving the nearly imposible. Sigma is not about creating run-of-the-mill photographs, or pursuing image quality defined by numbers. We give you a compact camera with the potential to capture exactly what you see and what you feel, with no compromize."

hmm....
does seem like it's got all the features of a dslr - but fixed focal length lens....

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/cameras/dp1_spec.asp

and there are some sample pics here too....

http://sigma-dp1.com/sample-photo/index.html