S5Pro - is it here yet

[pianodancer]

yeah...how i wish fuji would come up with their own ergomically contoured vertical grip.

They wouldn't, or else:
1) They would not have quoted MB-D200 as an 'official accesory'
2) They would have announced together with the S5pro
3) They would have designed their own DSLR body design instead of using Nikon's.

Personally I feel that a detached grip is no disadvantage, coz you can decide whether to travel light or add-on.

 

[aimlessfool]

Can use MB-D200 but cannot use the Nikon battery.

Is it stated anywhere that the nikon battery can't be used?

 

[Fuji Olykon]

Is it stated anywhere that the nikon battery can't be used?

Owner's Manual (Pg 30) states "Always use the rechargeable battery NP-150 (included). Other brands of rechargeable battery (including Nikon) cannot be used."

 

[madmacs]

They wouldn't, or else:
1) They would not have quoted MB-D200 as an 'official accesory'
2) They would have announced together with the S5pro
3) They would have designed their own DSLR body design instead of using Nikon's.

Personally I feel that a detached grip is no disadvantage, coz you can decide whether to travel light or add-on.

i dont have any objection to the grip being detached. but the feel sucks and the battery door looks so flimsy and feel like can break and drop off anytime.

 

[blazer_workz]

Owner's Manual (Pg 30) states "Always use the rechargeable battery NP-150 (included). Other brands of rechargeable battery (including Nikon) cannot be used."

But if using the vertical grip (MB200) with S5Pro..can we use the Nikon batteries? Can anyone test and verify? the power of BBB from the S5 is getting very strong for me..:sweat:

 

[Ramius]

I'm curious. What is the voltage and MHA on the Fuji NP-150 ? Any differences between this battery and the original EN-LE3e ?

I find it strange that unless there is a electrical difference (which I doubt), no reason not being able to use the Nikon batt in the Nikon grip. The only other possibility I can think of , is that the 3rd pin (info on battery health) of the Nikon batt is giving wrong info to the Fuji control. In that case, perhaps we can black tape it off ?

Theoretically, that should make it the same as AAs. Of course, I'm just guessing here. Don't have any on hand to try

In this para:
"Caution : The camera functions are not guranteed when using the MS-D200 AA Battery Holder"
perhaps there's some kind of camera function that is tied to the battery health ? Either that or Fuji is playing safe , heh

 

[madmacs]

I'm curious. What is the voltage and MHA on the Fuji NP-150 ? Any differences between this battery and the original EN-LE3e ?

I find it strange that unless there is a electrical difference (which I doubt), no reason not being able to use the Nikon batt in the Nikon grip. The only other possibility I can think of , is that the 3rd pin (info on battery health) of the Nikon batt is giving wrong info to the Fuji control. In that case, perhaps we can black tape it off ?

Theoretically, that should make it the same as AAs. Of course, I'm just guessing here. Don't have any on hand to try

In this para:
"Caution : The camera functions are not guranteed when using the MS-D200 AA Battery Holder"
perhaps there's some kind of camera function that is tied to the battery health ? Either that or Fuji is playing safe , heh

i compared the fuji and nikon batteries side by side. looks identical. both 1500mah 7.4v. my guess is the battery sends some id signal to the cam.

 

[aimlessfool]

well i found this review stating that the mb200 can run on the fuji batteries. not sure if its true or not. i guess we just need test it for ourselves.

 

[Azure]

The S5 Pro + MD200 can run on either 6 x AAs or 2 x NP150s. Or you can slot in a single NP150 and still it will work.

At F2, on a good day/time, the colors and saturation are no slouch. A Fuji CCD in a state-of-the-art Nikon digital body, that can be a dream come true at last for a lot of gearheads, too.



Me, my S3s still have a long while to go, so the loan unit is all I'll be touching of the S5.

 

[photobum]

Similarly, you cannot use the NP-150 with a D200. It just won't power-up and the half-battery indicator will keep on flashing.

Unless some 3rd party battery manufacturer comes up with a generic NP-150, otherwise I will not consider the S5Pro just yet. The original NP-150 is S$85 each!

 

[pianodancer]

There is no reason why Fuji doesn't want to allow the use of the Nikon battery. Looking in another way, the interoperability means Fuji batteries can use on D200. However, if it was Nikon who objected to Fuji making compatible batteries to prevent Fuji from eating into the Nikon battery market, then Fuji has the right to make a proprietary battery to prevent Nikon batteries from being used on the S5pro to protect their own Fuji battery market. Sometimes, it's all about Intellectual Property rights.

Well, whatever the reason is, Nikon battery CANNOT work on S5pro. Try as you might, why hack the battery to save a few dollars and risk damaging the entire camera?

 

[Loupisk]

Alama ! Got very itchy ! Cannot tahan anymore.;p

Put my s2 for sale.:bheart:

Hope to raise cash to get S5.

 

[Ramius]

There is no reason why Fuji doesn't want to allow the use of the Nikon battery. Looking in another way, the interoperability means Fuji batteries can use on D200. However, if it was Nikon who objected to Fuji making compatible batteries to prevent Fuji from eating into the Nikon battery market, then Fuji has the right to make a proprietary battery to prevent Nikon batteries from being used on the S5pro to protect their own Fuji battery market. Sometimes, it's all about Intellectual Property rights.

Well, whatever the reason is, Nikon battery CANNOT work on S5pro. Try as you might, why hack the battery to save a few dollars and risk damaging the entire camera?

I think the users will want to use Eastgear's 3rd party D200 batt to save costs. It's almost 2 for the price of 1 original after all - at least in this part of Asia .

Now just to wait for some guy to black tape off the 3rd pin and see if it works Maybe Eastgear people would like to try that ?

 

[nightwolf75]

just spent the afternoon testing out the s5pro.

batteries - confirmed cannot use EN-EL3e batts (nikon or otherwise). we tried in the store. the s5pro, when we put in a EL3e batt, flashed a bit, then went totally dead. wonder wat special function nikon put in their 3e batt... :think: other than dat, if u put the 2 batts side-by-side, u can't tell the diff.

the feel of the s5pro is like the d200. for those using the d200, u can't tell the difference. really....

dat is, until u start operating the in-cam menus... gawd... it's a nitemare, IMO. i've used the s2 and s3 b4. and i always thot fuji got it VERY rite when they had the 4 soft buttons dat allow quick changes to the shooting specs. i mean, where on earth (so far) can one change from colour to BnW shooting with one press of the button? the in-cam menus for fuji in the s3 (which i've owned b4) was never quite user-friendly, IMO, and i especially hate the way the screen de-mosaic when i delete the pic... well, it's all present in the s5pro still. but... eegad, why they remove the 4 soft buttons!!?? :complain:

s5pro now combines the 4 soft buttons feature into a shooting menu button, and this is split from the camera menu settings. so, one sets the pic settings on one button, and the camera functions on another. IMO, very cumbersome, if u need to change settings on the go. of course, some dun mind.

other than the cumbersome user-GUI, the cam performs much like the d200. i borrowed a AFS 28-70mm/f2.8 lens to go shoot a few sample pics. the AF speeds, finally, seem to have improved a great deal, compared to the s3. the continuous AF is more than adequate to track fast moving objects, and the increased number of AF points meant dat i get more keepers (thank you, fuji!). the read/write speeds, using an ultra II card, is a tad slow. then again, the files are big. this is one cam dat users need fast cards. anyone for extreme IV? ;p

as for the pic quality... strange. i shot an entire series using all the film modes - Standard, F1 etc.. till F2. when view on my laptop screen, i can hardly tell the difference bet them. i was shooting the great eastern building across shaw towers this afternoon in bright sunshine. anyone got other sample pics dat show a great difference? this is weird to me becos i can see the differences last time, when i was using s3. :think:

overall, i quite like the cam, despite the SNAFUs in the GUI. but, to swap my current cam for this... hmm... mebbe not just yet for me.

 

[photobum]

overall, i quite like the cam, despite the SNAFUs in the GUI. but, to swap my current cam for this... hmm... mebbe not just yet for me.

Same here.... Will adapt the wait and see approach.

 

[photobum]

Alama ! Got very itchy ! Cannot tahan anymore.;p

Put my s2 for sale.:bheart:

Hope to raise cash to get S5.

William, don't sell your S2 just yet. Try the S5 first and see if you like its interface. It is very, very different from the S2 and S3 Pro.

The feel is very different also. More like a D200 than an improved S3. When coupled with the MB-D200, the cam feels very chunky, huge and heavy. Its chunkiness is not like those of a Canon EOS1Ds Mk2 (which I use at work).

Personally, I still prefer the feel of the S2 and S3.

I will get you some Mopiko if you are still itchy.

 

[chanxj]

Similarly, you cannot use the NP-150 with a D200. It just won't power-up and the half-battery indicator will keep on flashing.

Unless some 3rd party battery manufacturer comes up with a generic NP-150, otherwise I will not consider the S5Pro just yet. The original NP-150 is S$85 each!

Aiyo comon la u spend 2.7k b4 ur lens and blah blah and cannot fork out $85 mehz? If is you already have D200 then the reason quite valid la if not i think is a negligible factor. At the very most i think you would get only 10 batteries anyway.

 

[photobum]

Aiyo comon la u spend 2.7k b4 ur lens and blah blah and cannot fork out $85 mehz? If is you already have D200 then the reason quite valid la if not i think is a negligible factor. At the very most i think you would get only 10 batteries anyway.

I don't know, or have I ever met you before, but it seems like I have a few things to clarify with you.

Firstly, I don't think spending S$85 on a piece of battery is justifiable. Almost all of my batteries are third party-made, mainly from Eastgear.

Secondly, I don't own a lens that is more than S$2.5k. Yes, I do have a few prime lenses but they were all bought used.

And thirdly, I do have a 'on-loan' D200 with me now. It belongs to a colleague of mine who has been out-stationed in Bombay for 5 months. FYI, I am still using a D100 which I hang on to for some very good reasons.

So before you comment on any of my remarks in the future, make sure you find out what I do or who I am. Well, unless you know another person by the name of photobum.

 

[Loupisk]

Maybe you r right!

Been to Allan photo to get a feel of the S5.

True that the ergonomy is not as good as S2.

Also was not impressed by the focusing ability of the cam. Better than the S2 but not by a wide margin.

Will keep on thinking.

Thanks for your advice !

William, don't sell your S2 just yet. Try the S5 first and see if you like its interface. It is very, very different from the S2 and S3 Pro.

The feel is very different also. More like a D200 than an improved S3. When coupled with the MB-D200, the cam feels very chunky, huge and heavy. Its chunkiness is not like those of a Canon EOS1Ds Mk2 (which I use at work).

Personally, I still prefer the feel of the S2 and S3.

I will get you some Mopiko if you are still itchy.

 

[dDarkroom]

Wow, the S5pro is here ah. This cam is the best and latest of fujifilm yesteryear technology.