[ OFFICIAL RELEASE 2010.09.14 ] - Olympus E-5

[albertri]

That seems a good improvement for the E-5, especially since the GH1 has the improved sensor and the E-5 doesn't.

nice... clearly outperformed the GH1 and EPL1. things are looking pretty good

the E5 IQ and sharpness seems very good but the comparission seems a bit lapse sided... EPL1/GH1 against E5? My question why TS decided to compare E5 with GH1 and EPL1? to me its kinda insulting actually....

yes some will say "they have the same sensor or GH1 has a better sensor etc" we all know it's not only sensor play part with the IQ but also the processor and algorithm this determine how the data/bits coming from the sensor are being manupulated and intrepreted by the processor and processed to create the image...

To me the TS should have compare it with other camera at the same level of E5....

E5 vs E3 is a bit ok but this is just to show how the E5 evolve compare to older E3.

 

[napalmdog]

the E5 IQ and sharpness seems very good but the comparission seems a bit lapse sided... EPL1/GH1 against E5? My question why TS decided to compare E5 with GH1 and EPL1? to me its kinda insulting actually....

it actually makes sense. the E-5 is said to be using the same sensor as E-PL1 but using a different algorithm

also people are saying before that the GH1 sensor is better than the E-PL1 (and E-5)

also they used the same lens for all bodies if im not mistaken, so its a pretty accurate comparison. i cant really read japanese, but basing on the replies it looks like it's done in a 4/3 thread hence why they only compared 4/3 bodies

To me the TS should have compare it with other camera at the same level of E5....

lets wait for the DPR review for that hehe

 

[albertri]

it actually makes sense. the E-5 is said to be using the same sensor as E-PL1 but using a different algorithm

also people are saying before that the GH1 sensor is better than the E-PL1 (and E-5)

also they used the same lens for all bodies if im not mistaken, so its a pretty accurate comparison

yes bro i agree EPL1 using the same sensor but E5 has better processor and newer and better algorithm so it'll surely E5 will be better in crucnhing and intrepreting those data thus should produce better IQ....

This is like comparing two car with same model the other is 1.5 stock model and the other is 2.0 sport edition... sorry bro can not mah hehehe

GH1 I am puzzled why it was included there hehehe even it has the best sensor among the 4 cameras it doesnt mean it'll produce better or comparable IQ ^_^

 

[bousozoku]

the E5 IQ and sharpness seems very good but the comparission seems a bit lapse sided... EPL1/GH1 against E5? My question why TS decided to compare E5 with GH1 and EPL1? to me its kinda insulting actually....

yes some will say "they have the same sensor or GH1 has a better sensor etc" we all know it's not only sensor play part with the IQ but also the processor and algorithm this determine how the data/bits coming from the sensor are being manupulated and intrepreted by the processor and processed to create the image...

To me the TS should have compare it with other camera at the same level of E5....

E5 vs E3 is a bit ok but this is just to show how the E5 evolve compare to older E3.

The E-PL1 has had, more-or-less, the best overall image quality of any E-system camera, including the E-3 for the most part.

I really don't think you want to see how a pre-production E-5 compares to the competition. By the way, what is the level of the E-5? It's a little bit professional, it's a lot more hobbyist with all the gimmicky art filters, etc.

 

[albertri]

The E-PL1 has had, more-or-less, the best overall image quality of any E-system camera, including the E-3 for the most part.

I really don't think you want to see how a pre-production E-5 compares to the competition. By the way, what is the level of the E-5? It's a little bit professional, it's a lot more hobbyist with all the gimmicky art filters, etc.

I agree to you guys somewhat like bro napalmdog said probably let's wait for the DPReview surely they will test E5 against similar DSLR they think should be in the same level as E5.

based on features and sensor type its EPL1 on steriods or beefier EPL1 :bsmilie:

 

[clubgrit]

The E-PL1 has had, more-or-less, the best overall image quality of any E-system camera, including the E-3 for the most part.

I really don't think you want to see how a pre-production E-5 compares to the competition. By the way, what is the level of the E-5? It's a little bit professional, it's a lot more hobbyist with all the gimmicky art filters, etc.

I agree, and I think something is wrong here, the E-PL1 image resolution in this comparison is poor :bsmilie:. Sometimes, it's just better to compare stuff personally, things can be rented after all. Let's wait for the production E-5, should be interesting.


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[Evilmerlin]

Production photos. Just a bunch of random shots to be honest.

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/27267/olympus-e-5/

All taken at ISO 200 except the tunnel one which is at ISO 1600.

 

[bousozoku]

I agree, and I think something is wrong here, the E-PL1 image resolution in this comparison is poor :bsmilie:. Sometimes, it's just better to compare stuff personally, things can be rented after all. Let's wait for the production E-5, should be interesting.


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I'm not sure what 150mm f/2.0 lens they were using but it looked more like a 1970s/1980s 500mm f/8.0 mirror lens was used.

It's clear to me that the pre-production E-5 was better but I'm not sure that someone was using any of the equipment properly.

 

[microcosm]

Production photos. Just a bunch of random shots to be honest.

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/27267/olympus-e-5/

All taken at ISO 200 except the tunnel one which is at ISO 1600.

Was hoping folks could test the new camera under lousy lighting conditions and low light to really see the improvements. On bright sunny days granted the DR is tested, but the overall image is definitely good. Even the E3 under such lighting conditions produces very very good pictures... heck, every camera does that, even my iPhone.

 

[microcosm]

Good or bad... for the "just in case", buy an E5 as it might be the end of the era for E-System. Buy and keep lah...

 

[spidey89]

Good or bad... for the "just in case", buy an E5 as it might be the end of the era for E-System. Buy and keep lah...

I'm curious as to what the pros will use in place of the flagships from the 4/3s,will the pro spec PEN be good enough?

 

[drakon09]

I'm curious as to what the pros will use in place of the flagships from the 4/3s,will the pro spec PEN be good enough?

Sure it could.

Two things for the body are key though - shutter lag and functional accessibility (or ergonomics, you might say)

But as a system, it is the lenses that determines whether the pros would use it, and the current lineup supports squat.

 

[spidey89]

Sure it could.

Two things for the body are key though - shutter lag and functional accessibility (or ergonomics, you might say)

But as a system, it is the lenses that determines whether the pros would use it, and the current lineup supports squat.

Shutter lag seems ok for me, ergonomics a little bit tiring when holding the E-P1,but if the pro spec PEN is bigger and has a grip, it somewhat reminds me of the blocky film cameras with motor drive which shouldn't be all bad, but agree with you on the lens part which is one of my concerns as well:think: which again leads to the modular system,if it is able to mount 4/3s lenses as well, it could be the answer to Olympus gradually fading out 4/3 lenses, hopefully cameras don't go beyond a certain small size

 

[drakon09]

Shutter lag seems ok for me, ergonomics a little bit tiring when holding the E-P1,but if the pro spec PEN is bigger and has a grip, it somewhat reminds me of the blocky film cameras with motor drive which shouldn't be all bad, but agree with you on the lens part which is one of my concerns as well:think: which again leads to the modular system,if it is able to mount 4/3s lenses as well, it could be the answer to Olympus gradually fading out 4/3 lenses, hopefully cameras don't go beyond a certain small size

They can't because they need to balance the lenses with the body such that the entire unit has the fulcrum at the hand cradling area; the grip is just gravy.

That's why bright telephotos does not work with m4/3, nex or nx handheld - you can't get a proper cradle on them.

An attachment(s) to balance out the unit could work though, like the motor drive unit you mentioned, and that could be the basis of the modular system.

 

[spidey89]

They can't because they need to balance the lenses with the body such that the entire unit has the fulcrum at the hand cradling area; the grip is just gravy.

That's why bright telephotos does not work with m4/3, nex or nx handheld - you can't get a proper cradle on them.

An attachment(s) to balance out the unit could work though, like the motor drive unit you mentioned, and that could be the basis of the modular system.

Hmm... Would be interesting to see how Olympus does this if it ever does materialize, or bright tele lenses for m4/3 in the future

 

[diCam]

Was hoping folks could test the new camera under lousy lighting conditions and low light to really see the improvements. On bright sunny days granted the DR is tested, but the overall image is definitely good. Even the E3 under such lighting conditions produces very very good pictures... heck, every camera does that, even my iPhone.

I'll see if I can provide some feedback. What is your definition of low-light?

 

[lamester]

Production photos. Just a bunch of random shots to be honest.

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/27267/olympus-e-5/

All taken at ISO 200 except the tunnel one which is at ISO 1600.

tunnel shot noise still pretty bad for iso1600. and the clipping at the bright end is just bad...is Oly really driving us 4/3 users up the wall?

 

[spidey89]

tunnel shot noise still pretty bad for iso1600. and the clipping at the bright end is just bad...is Oly really driving us 4/3 users up the wall?

To be fair, the scene DR might be too great for the camera's DR and the images don't seem to be well taken, so why not wait for more instead of jumping to conclusions based on just 1 site?

 

[Evilmerlin]

http://fourthirds-user.com/2010/09/e5_sample_images_from_photokina.php

More samples, this time from Photokina. NR was off for all photos.

I don't know about you guys but this one is wow! Look at the texture of the cloth!

 

[clubgrit]

http://fourthirds-user.com/2010/09/e5_sample_images_from_photokina.php

More samples, this time from Photokina. NR was off for all photos.

I don't know about you guys but this one is wow! Look at the texture of the cloth!

It's nice, but at f/7.1 and iso 200, it better be ...

More interesting are the ISO 800 to ISO 6400 without NR. But as the writer said, got to do this, later when have time ....

"For proper evaluation you may want to consider running these samples through some form of noise management."


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