OFFICIAL: CANON EOS 6D - User Thread - Part 3

[Turbonetics]

I don't think it's fair for folks to compare 6D vs 7D2 ISO performance directly.

A better way to evaluate performance of each camera is to use DPReview comparison tool to check image quality against other competing cameras in the same class. In the case of 7D2, it should be D7100, A6000, OMD EM1 etc etc.

After that, one needs to weigh other aspects of each camera against what the camera is designed for.

as I have mentioned both cameras are made for different purposes and so yes it is not fair to compare both sensor performance directly.
I did it purely for my own knowledge and to find out how does the 7D2 fare in sensor performance against a FF.

 

[izzat01]

I hope some of you can help me. After a year of using my 6D as a workhorse, the rubber grips are starting to peel off. Any idea how much does it costs to replace them? Just need a rough estimation before dropping to CSC

 

[SilentSeth]

I hope some of you can help me. After a year of using my 6D as a workhorse, the rubber grips are starting to peel off. Any idea how much does it costs to replace them? Just need a rough estimation before dropping to CSC

If the grip itself is still intact, try to glue it back to the body? Usually a rubber or super glue will help.

I remember 60D's got grip peel off issue.. hopefully yours is an isolated case.

 

[SkyStrike]

If the grip itself is still intact, try to glue it back to the body? Usually a rubber or super glue will help.

I remember 60D's got grip peel off issue.. hopefully yours is an isolated case.

Personally, I will not recommend superglue...

 

[RhythmCL]

i am not very satisfied with the IQ on my 650D... the sharpness seems to be lacking and not "tack-sharp"

Currently using a tamron 17-50 with it

will changing the body to 6Dhelp?

 

[SkyStrike]

i am not very satisfied with the IQ on my 650D... the sharpness seems to be lacking and not "tack-sharp"

Currently using a tamron 17-50 with it

will changing the body to 6Dhelp?

Are you pixel peeping at 100% crop at wide open aperture?

Upload a few samples with exif online and see if it's the norm or not.

And, lastly, No, moving to ff won't change that as well, because you will need another lens to use on ff.

 

[Kermitfm]

i am not very satisfied with the IQ on my 650D... the sharpness seems to be lacking and not "tack-sharp"

Currently using a tamron 17-50 with it

will changing the body to 6Dhelp?

Sharpness is dependent on a couple of factors among them
- shutter speed
- aperture
- focus
- iso setting

Lens quality also plays a part.

The 650D is a very good entry level camera and I have seen excellent samples (sharp) on the web.

If you want some view, follow what skystrike replied - attach image with exif.

 

[raydio]

i am not very satisfied with the IQ on my 650D... the sharpness seems to be lacking and not "tack-sharp"

Currently using a tamron 17-50 with it

will changing the body to 6Dhelp?

I suspect that your lens may be front or back focusing or perhaps they lack post-processing. Here are some things to consider:

1. Have you done a proper focal test?
2. Have you tried the camera with other lenses and does the problem persist.
3. Are you shooting RAW which will produce slightly blurry photos which require post processing?

The 650D is a fine camera producing photos which are almost non-discernible when compared to a full frame camera. Advancements in digital sensor technology has pretty much leveled the playing field among various sensors as far as IQ is concerned. There will be differences but you will have to pixel peep and look hard to see them.

As SkyStrike has advised, please post some examples so that we can help you further.

 

[foreverlate]

....sharpness is not base on camera or lens..is how u compose and shoot it.

 

[TheLoneRanger]

also progressed from a 650D to 6D - photos on my 650D were plenty sharp so it may be user error.

Anyways, tried out a third party battery with the 6D. got a "communication error with battery - continue?" message or something like that. Proceeded to use since nothing else seems off, and the battery level still shows. is this normal?

 

[NormanSelvaraju]

I too moved from a 650d to a 6d.

The 650d was working very well. Still is. It's nice and safe In my dry box. The photos were crisp and clear and when used with my Tamron 24-70 gave very sharp results too. So I would say, based on my experience the 650d, it's a great camera and it does produce sharp images.

I moved to a 6d cos of the benefits of a full frame (better noise control etc).

Do note that the 650d in fact has a higher pixel density given that it is a 18MP camera on a crop sensor whereas a 6d is only 20MP on a full frame sensor. So even when you crop, you should still retain much of the sharpness all things being equal.

Having said that, if you wanna move to a 6d, go right ahead. The 6d is an awesome full frame camera. The only thing lacking is it's not too snappy af unit and that it does not have dual card slots.

Other than that, it's awesome. Great image quality. Nice dynamic range.

 

[RhythmCL]

Are you pixel peeping at 100% crop at wide open aperture?

Upload a few samples with exif online and see if it's the norm or not.

And, lastly, No, moving to ff won't change that as well, because you will need another lens to use on ff.

Sharpness is dependent on a couple of factors among them
- shutter speed
- aperture
- focus
- iso setting

Lens quality also plays a part.

The 650D is a very good entry level camera and I have seen excellent samples (sharp) on the web.

If you want some view, follow what skystrike replied - attach image with exif.

I suspect that your lens may be front or back focusing or perhaps they lack post-processing. Here are some things to consider:

1. Have you done a proper focal test?
2. Have you tried the camera with other lenses and does the problem persist.
3. Are you shooting RAW which will produce slightly blurry photos which require post processing?

The 650D is a fine camera producing photos which are almost non-discernible when compared to a full frame camera. Advancements in digital sensor technology has pretty much leveled the playing field among various sensors as far as IQ is concerned. There will be differences but you will have to pixel peep and look hard to see them.

As SkyStrike has advised, please post some examples so that we can help you further.

i shoot in both raw and jpeg, and did some amateur sharpening on lightroom

when i see the images at 20%,40%, it is still acceptable. But when I enlarge it to 80%,100%, the sharpness puts me off.
the image doesn't give me that kind of 'tack sharpness' which i see from some other websites even if i shoot at f8, f11

http://wikisend.com/download/641652/untitled-1394.tif

i dont know how to generate a exif file from a raw, hope a .tif can do. This is shot in f2.8

thanks for all the help

 

[SkyStrike]

i shoot in both raw and jpeg, and did some amateur sharpening on lightroom

when i see the images at 20%,40%, it is still acceptable. But when I enlarge it to 80%,100%, the sharpness puts me off.
the image doesn't give me that kind of 'tack sharpness' which i see from some other websites even if i shoot at f8, f11

http://wikisend.com/download/641652/untitled-1394.tif

i dont know how to generate a exif file from a raw, hope a .tif can do. This is shot in f2.8

thanks for all the help

Actually just upload the JPG version at full res can liao....

EXIF is basically information on your Aperture/ISO/Shutter speed/Stabilizer (on or off) and many others. But of which only the mentioned ones is more important for this discussion.

 

[RhythmCL]

Actually just upload the JPG version at full res can liao....

EXIF is basically information on your Aperture/ISO/Shutter speed/Stabilizer (on or off) and many others. But of which only the mentioned ones is more important for this discussion.

sorry for the confusion, i am still new at this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lc1k3eos36oorjz/untitled-0330.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jpc2loig3wbiygs/untitled-1242.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7ml06b2d8n18rx/untitled-1394.jpg?dl=0

 

[rhino123]

sorry for the confusion, i am still new at this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lc1k3eos36oorjz/untitled-0330.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jpc2loig3wbiygs/untitled-1242.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7ml06b2d8n18rx/untitled-1394.jpg?dl=0

Look pretty sharp for the first two photos. But, maybe it is just me, I notice a slight motion blur in those pics. Might be slight shake in your hands when you take the shots. Also what ISO are you shooting at? I seemed to notice that there are blurred noise reduction (esp. the third pic).

 

[foreverlate]

Look pretty sharp for the first two photos. But, maybe it is just me, I notice a slight motion blur in those pics. Might be slight shake in your hands when you take the shots. Also what ISO are you shooting at? I seemed to notice that there are blurred noise reduction (esp. the third pic).

even for the 3rd pic i consider that is sharp already...

btw u can create a flickr account to upload images...it can upload the full size jpg files

 

[eggie87]

sorry for the confusion, i am still new at this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lc1k3eos36oorjz/untitled-0330.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jpc2loig3wbiygs/untitled-1242.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7ml06b2d8n18rx/untitled-1394.jpg?dl=0

As a safety precaution i usually like to x2.5 or more for my shutter speed from my focal length..sometimes forget..unless u got stabilization..sometimes before we press the shutter we can have a sudden jerk..Even the subject can have a sudden twitch.if u wan to check if ur auto focusing is ok u can always test shoot the numbers on a ruler depth wise....micro adjustments will help as I found out with my 7dmk2..

 

[voice123]

too sharp also nt good can see the hair on the face more work to photoshop

 

[SkyStrike]

sorry for the confusion, i am still new at this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lc1k3eos36oorjz/untitled-0330.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jpc2loig3wbiygs/untitled-1242.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7ml06b2d8n18rx/untitled-1394.jpg?dl=0

Actually, It looks pretty ok to me in terms of sharpness.

untitled-1394.jpg > feels a wee bit out of focus, if the focus is on the eye. The focus seems to be more on the shirt instead.

 

[RhythmCL]

Look pretty sharp for the first two photos. But, maybe it is just me, I notice a slight motion blur in those pics. Might be slight shake in your hands when you take the shots. Also what ISO are you shooting at? I seemed to notice that there are blurred noise reduction (esp. the third pic).

yeap 2nd and 3rd pic is shoot at relatively high iso

yeap you might be correct, i do have shaky hands

even for the 3rd pic i consider that is sharp already...

btw u can create a flickr account to upload images...it can upload the full size jpg files

i was browsing thru some website which explains sharpness on images, where one of the criteria is seeing the eyelashes clearly, line by line, not smudges even in low resolution

mine are totally lacking in that....

As a safety precaution i usually like to x2.5 or more for my shutter speed from my focal length..sometimes forget..unless u got stabilization..sometimes before we press the shutter we can have a sudden jerk..Even the subject can have a sudden twitch.if u wan to check if ur auto focusing is ok u can always test shoot the numbers on a ruler depth wise....micro adjustments will help as I found out with my 7dmk2..

i try to shoot at 1/80 at least, if not faster

too sharp also nt good can see the hair on the face more work to photoshop

i understand that. but my images are lacking that kind of *snap-finger* sharpness i seen on magazines leh...

Actually, It looks pretty ok to me in terms of sharpness.

untitled-1394.jpg > feels a wee bit out of focus, if the focus is on the eye. The focus seems to be more on the shirt instead.

i used spot metering and auto-focus on the center of the frame, then reframe the shot
1st: iso100, f2.8, 1/320
2nd: iso800, f8, 1/160
3rd: iso400, f2.8, 1/1600