Official Canon EOS 60D User Thread Part I


jnet6 said:
Same here just got it 2weeks ago and shop need to hold the stock for 1week as I'm busy and unable to pick up.
When I collect, they say no more stock coming, so I'm the lucky one. :)
Price is quite standard for the "usual" shops with the freebies. No need to compare, as limited stocks.
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Just a gauge for you guys, bought mine at 1320 body from 3:16 3 weeks ago. Include standard freebies.
 

Just got the 60D with a 50mm F1.4.

Wah, damn hard to find. Alot of places out of stock (body only), called about more than 16 places finally found one canon dealer at lucky plaza although slightly more expensive by a few dollars.

At first agreed on a price on the phone and after I went down. uncle say another price. Instantly know its a chop shop, I told uncle "uncle, i not ang mor. I got black hair, i now eat snake come and buy from you. dont chop me ley" :bsmilie: uncle smile smile say ok, than sold me at the price agreed on the phone. Later he tried to push me to buy 3rd party batteries, overpriced SD card and nameless filters. I tell uncle " uncle thank you, i have spare filter at home and alot of SD card, i now eat snake, need to faster go back to office" I faster DIY pack the cam and made sure all the warranty got chop.

Uncle also ask if i wanted a screen protector, i asked him how much, he said $10. I counter offer and offerd $4, he said ok instanstly (aiya kan chop already) but nvm lah few bucks only :confused:. I paid the cash and faster run. :bsmilie:
 

Hey guys,

I need help! :(
After a week or so any quite a large number of shots taken with my 60D I noticed that my images are often unacceptably soft...
I've been using a 50mm f1.8 II and this is a 100% crop taken from outside my window earlier today at iso160 1/160 f11.
I've been wondering if it's just me or the camera or the lens's problem. Feeling rather disheartened seeing such images...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62408128@N04/5679622590/

Hope you guys can help me with this!
 

Sphben said:
Hey guys,

I need help! :(
After a week or so any quite a large number of shots taken with my 60D I noticed that my images are often unacceptably soft...
I've been using a 50mm f1.8 II and this is a 100% crop taken from outside my window earlier today at iso160 1/160 f11.
I've been wondering if it's just me or the camera or the lens's problem. Feeling rather disheartened seeing such images...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62408128@N04/5679622590/

Hope you guys can help me with this!
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I agree... your photo does look a little soft. I would suggest that you don't put blame on your equipment quite yet. There's a lot you can do to determine if your equipment is soft or not.

First of all, there's a couple of things that would have lead to the softness in your photo. First, the lighting was rather dull and secondly, the aperture was set to f/11.

Here are my suggestions:

1. Take a photo in bright light.
2. Instead of f/11, try an aperture of f/8 or just a little less but stay away from f/1.8.
3. Use ISO 100, 200 or 400. Stay away from the "mid" ISO settings.
4. Be sure that your IS is on or place the camera on a tripod. Tripod would be best.
5. Try liveview focusing which is contrast based and very accurate.
6. Try your lens on another 60D... you can take it to the VIVO Canon shop and with permission, try your lens on their camera. Be sure to take your own SD card with you so that you can view the test photos at home.
7. Try another 50mm lens on your camera and compare the test photos with the photos you've already taken.
:)

These are just a few steps that you can take to ascertain the softness of your equipment.
 

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Hi raydio, thanks for the reply!

1. Take a photo in bright light.
Unfortunately it was pretty dark yesterday morning...

2. Instead of f/11, try an aperture of f/8 or just a little less but stay away from f/1.8.
I tried this over a range of aperatures f1.8/2.8/5.6/8/11/22 and the results at the focused areas are more or less the same

3. Use ISO 100, 200 or 400. Stay away from the "mid" ISO settings.
I guess I'll have to try again when I have the time but the only time I see the sun at home is on the weekends when I'm not working :(

4. Be sure that your IS is on or place the camera on a tripod. Tripod would be best.
I had used a tripod for the shot.

5. Try liveview focusing which is contrast based and very accurate.
Again I have to try this weekend.

6. Try your lens on another 60D... you can take it to the VIVO Canon shop and with permission, try your lens on their camera. Be sure to take your own SD card with you so that you can view the test photos at home.
Weekend >.<

7. Try another 50mm lens on your camera and compare the test photos with the photos you've already taken.
I have a friend with one and I'll most probably be meeting him this weekend too to try it out :)

Perhaps I'll upload some of the shots I've been taking and it might shed some light on why it's so gooey and soft :(
I sure do hope it's a problem with myself and not the camera :(
 

Sphben said:
Hi raydio, thanks for the reply!

1. Take a photo in bright light.
Unfortunately it was pretty dark yesterday morning...

2. Instead of f/11, try an aperture of f/8 or just a little less but stay away from f/1.8.
I tried this over a range of aperatures f1.8/2.8/5.6/8/11/22 and the results at the focused areas are more or less the same

3. Use ISO 100, 200 or 400. Stay away from the "mid" ISO settings.
I guess I'll have to try again when I have the time but the only time I see the sun at home is on the weekends when I'm not working :(

4. Be sure that your IS is on or place the camera on a tripod. Tripod would be best.
I had used a tripod for the shot.

5. Try liveview focusing which is contrast based and very accurate.
Again I have to try this weekend.

6. Try your lens on another 60D... you can take it to the VIVO Canon shop and with permission, try your lens on their camera. Be sure to take your own SD card with you so that you can view the test photos at home.
Weekend >.<

7. Try another 50mm lens on your camera and compare the test photos with the photos you've already taken.
I have a friend with one and I'll most probably be meeting him this weekend too to try it out :)

Perhaps I'll upload some of the shots I've been taking and it might shed some light on why it's so gooey and soft :(
I sure do hope it's a problem with myself and not the camera :(
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Hi Sphben; It will be interesting to see your results and comparison photos. I'm sure that others will chime in with their opinions too.

I wouldn't get too worried about it. The softness in your photo could have been the result of so many variables. The more testing and the more comparisons will help to narrow the issue. Certainly, I've seen similar softness in my photos during dull days. If there is some softness in either your lens or your camera, the worst case scenario is that the camera or lens (or both) is taken to CSC for calibration. If you can prove the softness in your photos (hence the importance in testing), and if your equipment is under warranty, the calibration should be free.
 

raydio said:
Hi Sphben; It will be interesting to see your results and comparison photos. I'm sure that others will chime in with their opinions too.

I wouldn't get too worried about it. The softness in your photo could have been the result of so many variables. The more testing and the more comparisons will help to narrow the issue. Certainly, I've seen similar softness in my photos during dull days. If there is some softness in either your lens or your camera, the worst case scenario is that the camera or lens (or both) is taken to CSC for calibration. If you can prove the softness in your photos (hence the importance in testing), and if your equipment is under warranty, the calibration should be free.
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I just spoke to my friend and his input was that it might be because the 18MP stuffed in could be causing the softness at 100% crop (a terribly small area on the photo) and he asked me to try reducing the resolution and see if gets better. Anyway 18 mp is much of an overkill for just about anything I could possibly need my pictures for.

Do you happen to know if I can send the camera in for them to check together with my lens? Maybe I'll live with it till after I head to China to take pictures of walls since my trip is only next week :(

And maybe my expectations are just too high T.T

Thanks again for your help! I'll be heading home tonight to do some more testing with a focus charts and my beloved shelf of whisky >=D

Cheers!
 

Hi Guys,

Been in this forum for quite some time and have been reading thru all the threads. By the way this is my first posting. Photography has been my hobby and recently bought the Canon 60D Kit II during the IT show period. My first ever investment ins a DSLR cam. Have been enjoying every single moment with camera.

Have learned a lot from fellow bros & sis here. Feel very welcomed to be here.
Will post some of my shots later. Waiting to purchase the Canon 50mm F1.8 as well as the upcoming Yongnuo 565EX flash for my camera.;)
 

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My experience with 60D is, the sensor is too overkill with 18MP sensor as i normally shoot @ F8~F16 for my landscape.
I realize that at F11, the diffraction sets in even though i got more DOF. Depends on your subject anything between F1.2~9.5 is fine for the focal length less then 50mm.
Usually i'll use 18,25,50,100mm. 18 is the "worse" as i tends to stop down more and 25mm is the best as i can go up close to my subject and lose lots of DOF to get the "bokeh" that i want.

Will try the raw file when i've got the time to post process and edit them... :devil:
 

Sphben said:
Ok I just got home and did a few test shots and here's the result.

Full resolution picture without PP
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62408128@N04/5683548256/

Slightly inaccurate 100% crop
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62408128@N04/5683543272/

What in the world did i just do right -.-

Edit
Forgot to add in that I used a tripod and the following settings:
ISO100 1/13 f8 with the 50mm f1.8 II
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It's definitely not your camera or lens that is causing the softness in your initial photo. The photo you've just posted is sharp and well defined and more so because it's not been PP'd. I don't believe that having 18mp crammed on a small sensor like the one in the 60D is the cause of softness. This is a myth and your photo of the knife is proof of the capabilities of the 60D's sensor. I have produced several sharp photos from my 18mp camera and I'm confident of its capabilities.

As I've mentioned earlier, the softness in your initial photo could have been caused by several variables....
1. Atmospheric conditions due to the distance of the building.
2. Diffraction at f/11.
3. Outdoor vibrations which could have led to vibrations in your tripod and camera. If you try 10x liveview mode you can see vibrations very readily. Even a breath on your camera could lead to vibrations... 10x liveview mode shows this very dramatically. If you took these pictures from a balcony, in windy conditions or near traffic, you could have been subjected to a lot of vibration.
4. Forgetting to turn off IS while the camera is on a tripod could also cause vibration.
5. Lack of a high shutter speed to counter-act vibration.
 

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raydio said:
It's definitely not your camera or lens that is causing the softness in your initial photo. The photo you've just posted is sharp and well defined and more so because it's not been PP'd. I don't believe that having 18mp crammed on a small sensor like the one in the 60D is the cause of softness. This is a myth and your photo of the knife is proof of the capabilities of the 60D's sensor. I have produced several sharp photos from my 18mp camera and I'm confident of its capabilities.

As I've mentioned earlier, the softness in your initial photo could have been caused by several variables....
1. Atmospheric conditions due to the distance of the building.
2. Diffraction at f/11.
3. Outdoor vibrations which could have led to vibrations in your tripod and camera. If you try 10x liveview mode you can see vibrations very readily. Even a breath on your camera could lead to vibrations... 10x liveview mode shows this very dramatically. If you took these pictures from a balcony, in windy conditions or near traffic, you could have been subjected to a lot of vibration.
4. Forgetting to turn off IS while the camera is on a tripod could also cause vibration.
5. Lack of a high shutter speed to counter-act vibration.
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Atmosphere wise it think it was a tad hazy that day and I did try several apertures ranging from the minimum of the minimum but still resulting in similar quality. Though I don't think mine was causes by vibrations from wind and traffic because my place is in a rather undisturbed area of the neighbourhood and it was taken from my room which is more or less shielded from the wind. I still completely agree with you on that. i practice turning IS off on tripods too and the 50mm has no Is to speak of anyway and if I'm not wrong the shutter speed it was taken at should be high enough to prevent even hand shakes from me.

On the topic of the high megapixels I find having all 18 quite unnecessary too. Creates amazingly large file sizes even though I won't be printing or viewing it on huge cinema screens. So I reduced it to a 10mp raw and the file size dropped comfortably :) or I would have been filling up my sd card way too quickly! I can't comment much on the technical aspects though, I'm not an expert and I'll just leave the debate to the experts on the correct reasoning but now I'm still undecided lol

Outch! Wall of text :(
Thanks again for your help :) appreciate it very much!
Guess all I have to do is check the focus more thoroughly in the future :)
 

saravanan27 said:
Hi Guys,

Been in this forum for quite some time and have been reading thru all the threads. By the way this is my first posting. Photography has been my hobby and recently bought the Canon 60D Kit II during the IT show period. My first ever investment ins a DSLR cam. Have been enjoying every single moment with camera.

Have learned a lot from fellow bros & sis here. Feel very welcomed to be here.
Will post some of my shots later. Waiting to purchase the Canon 50mm F1.8 as well as the upcoming Yongnuo 565EX flash for my camera.;)
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Welcome to the club!! post in the newbies corner as well so that people can help you'll out. =)
 

ursuladeux said:
Hi conan86 & bettapro, thanks for your replies! I tried and My old class 4 sandisk card worked perfectly. It's only the bundled class 6 Kingston card and my newly purchased class 10 sandisk got problem. Hmm.. Could it be the card slot was designed for older sd cards and not the newer ones...
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yay, the problem with the sd card is gone (whether new or old sd cards). :)
 

ursuladeux said:
yay, the problem with the sd card is gone (whether new or old sd cards). :)
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Mine had the same problem too :( My 32gb class 10 didn't like my camera very well but after a little persuasion, they finally fell in love. OK. it was more of forcing in and out repeatedly. =/

The 8gb cards mated perfectly though.
 

Hi all...its been 3 weeks that I bought my 60D...the rubber grip is already coming off at the corner (very small portion as of now)...wondering if I should make the trip to Harbourfront or wait till a bit more comes off....not sure if the service centre will just glue it back for it to come off few months later...any guys have experience with this within such a short time of buying it and what did you do....would appreciate any inputs....I understand that this is quite a common problem with 60Dthanks
 

debs1153 said:
Hi all...its been 3 weeks that I bought my 60D...the rubber grip is already coming off at the corner (very small portion as of now)...wondering if I should make the trip to Harbourfront or wait till a bit more comes off....not sure if the service centre will just glue it back for it to come off few months later...any guys have experience with this within such a short time of buying it and what did you do....would appreciate any inputs....I understand that this is quite a common problem with 60Dthanks
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If I were you I would go back and make noise hehe.. three weeks seems a bit fast for the rubber to peel..
 

raydio said:
Yes, I agree... 3 weeks is shameful.
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It good to make a trip down to CSC or sent an e-mail to csc.See what Csc can response on this issue.
made it known to canon. there an issue of the adhersive been use.
 

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