OFFICIAL: CANON EOS 5D Mark III - User Thread - Part 3

[esoeij]

Phenomenon
In extreme dark environments* when the LCD panel illuminates, the displayed exposure value may change. However, when shooting with a lens attached, this change in exposure value may not significantly affect the shooting results.

* Some examples of a dark environment are as follows:
1. When the body cap is attached
2. When the lens cap is attached

Hmmm, I just noticed that the USA version of the advisory (the quote above is from the Canon SEA/Singapore source) does not have the extra bit in bold. Wonder why Canon SEA/Singapore decided to add it in. I mean, it's obvious that when body cap or lens cap is attached, the environment is extremely dark. Is Canon SEA/Singapore trying to be sarcastic? I read somewhere that the 'phenomenon' occurs even when you shoot outdoors in bright conditions. Canon did not clarify if the exposure may be affected (albeit marginally only) by light permeating through the LCD panel even in normal shooting conditions.

I must state upfront as I have mentioned in my other posts that I am not losing sleep over this light leak issue and may not even get the FOC fix at Canon. But Canon still has the responsibility to its customers to address this issue satisfactorily.

 

[spinworkxroy]

Hmmm, I just noticed that the USA version of the advisory (the quote above is from the Canon SEA/Singapore source) does not have the extra bit in bold. Wonder why Canon SEA/Singapore decided to add it in. I mean, it's obvious that when body cap or lens cap is attached, the environment is extremely dark. Is Canon SEA/Singapore trying to be sarcastic? I read somewhere that the 'phenomenon' occurs even when you shoot outdoors in bright conditions. Canon did not clarify if the exposure may be affected (albeit marginally only) by light permeating through the LCD panel even in normal shooting conditions.

I must state upfront as I have mentioned in my other posts that I am not losing sleep over this light leak issue and may not even get the FOC fix at Canon. But Canon still has the responsibility to its customers to address this issue satisfactorily.

Well, Canon SG did mention that from may 17, we can bring the cameras in for a "fix"
Although they didn't say what fix and i'm sure they won't say how they will fix it but i'm sure they will fix it..should be a simple "seal" job to block the light from entering the sensor…but is only possible by taking the camera apart…something which many owners here will not do unless absolutely necessary so at least we now know for a fact the problem i very minimal and does not really affect the final photo much…so it's not worth taking it apart for.
BTW, shooting outdoors in bright conditions does not have this "problem" actually..the tests that showed this was done with the lens cap on..
this WILL affect really dark conditions but honestly, in those dark conditions, the exposure is going to be in seconds not milliseconds, +- 1 to 2 sec exposure isn't going to change much if you ask me..after all, when on the LCD or shine a light, the meter changes, by the time you take the shot, the LCD will be off, the meter will go back to normal again so..unless you have the LCD constantly on..i dun see how this will change anything

 

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[ShaneKua]

Well, Canon SG did mention that from may 17, we can bring the cameras in for a "fix"
Although they didn't say what fix and i'm sure they won't say how they will fix it but i'm sure they will fix it..should be a simple "seal" job to block the light from entering the sensor…but is only possible by taking the camera apart…something which many owners here will not do unless absolutely necessary so at least we now know for a fact the problem i very minimal and does not really affect the final photo much…so it's not worth taking it apart for.
BTW, shooting outdoors in bright conditions does not have this "problem" actually..the tests that showed this was done with the lens cap on..
this WILL affect really dark conditions but honestly, in those dark conditions, the exposure is going to be in seconds not milliseconds, +- 1 to 2 sec exposure isn't going to change much if you ask me..after all, when on the LCD or shine a light, the meter changes, by the time you take the shot, the LCD will be off, the meter will go back to normal again so..unless you have the LCD constantly on..i dun see how this will change anything

Completely agree, the thought of having to re-calibrate all my lenses after the camera body goes for servicing is enough to put me off sending my camera for any major CSC operation unless absolutely necessary!

 

[spinworkxroy]

Canon's Chuck Westfall speaks with planet5D at NAB 2012 - YouTube!

A good interview on things to come for the 5Dmk3.
Future firmwares are definitely coming and will definitely fix certain issues.
It's good hear that Canon ARE in fact looking in to these areas:
1) Being able to set the zoom/magnify button to the top buttons (as per 7D/60D etc)..this is a feature people are asking for and Canon are listening
2) Having the red illumination on the focus points be much brighter in daylight….this is another big problem people are complaining and Canon are aware of it ans most likely will have some kind of fix for that

The bottom line in the interview is that Canon are aware of customer's requirements and will consider them greatly and i had no idea the 5D2 had over 10 firmware updates…so they also expect the 5D3 to have many updates to keep fixing stuff or adding features…
Good news for all 5D3 owners..

 

[ahboy168]

Hmm.. Have you guys considered sigma 24-70mm ?

There's no kit set with the 24-70mm lens

I used to own sigma hsm version on my 5dmk2.
It is actually as good as the canon mk1 except the color is not as rich.
Something like canon non-L lens output.

 

[spinworkxroy]

Completely agree, the thought of having to re-calibrate all my lenses after the camera body goes for servicing is enough to put me off sending my camera for any major CSC operation unless absolutely necessary!

I'm not too worried about recalibration..
I spent the whole afternoon recalibrating all my lenses using Focal by reikan..i don't mind having to do that again…at least i know i can do it..
I can't do anything about dust entering the camera

 

[ShaneKua]

I'm not too worried about recalibration..
I spent the whole afternoon recalibrating all my lenses using Focal by reikan..i don't mind having to do that again…at least i know i can do it..
I can't do anything about dust entering the camera

Good point about the dust! Another reason to avoid excessive CSC visits.

How easy is FoCal? Last i heard 5D3 has some missing support? I usually use LensAlign Pro, but its VERY time consuming per lens, although the results are good.

 

[chengpenguin]

Canon's Chuck Westfall speaks with planet5D at NAB 2012 - YouTube!

A good interview on things to come for the 5Dmk3.
Future firmwares are definitely coming and will definitely fix certain issues.
It's good hear that Canon ARE in fact looking in to these areas:
1) Being able to set the zoom/magnify button to the top buttons (as per 7D/60D etc)..this is a feature people are asking for and Canon are listening
2) Having the red illumination on the focus points be much brighter in daylight….this is another big problem people are complaining and Canon are aware of it ans most likely will have some kind of fix for that

The bottom line in the interview is that Canon are aware of customer's requirements and will consider them greatly and i had no idea the 5D2 had over 10 firmware updates…so they also expect the 5D3 to have many updates to keep fixing stuff or adding features…
Good news for all 5D3 owners..

From the interview, Chuck said that Canon is considering the magnify issue but can't guarantee that it will be given to users. Hope they really do so... That top right FEL and AF selector buttons used for magnify has been such a unique feature on Canon DSLRs that it feels so weird without it now.

 

[Rocky99]

anyone notice that the camera cannot focus properly when battery is left with last bar?
photo taken is OOF even when focus confirmation icon lights up.
at 1st i thought it's because the glass is too heavy for the weak battery to power up.
but focus is off even if using MF with AF assist.
happened to my set this time only.
last few times with low batt was ok.

 

[ricleo]

anyone notice that the camera cannot focus properly when battery is left with last bar?
photo taken is OOF even when focus confirmation icon lights up.
at 1st i thought it's because the glass is too heavy for the weak battery to power up.
but focus is off even if using MF with AF assist.
happened to my set this time only.
last few times with low batt was ok.

perhaps you may want to describe the problem in more detail, quite hard to understand.

Are you using a manual focus lens with AF assist chip? AF is not accurate for this set up?

Or are you using a canon AF lens, and find that the AF is consistently off for many shots this time round when battery is low.

 

[G-man]

perhaps you may want to describe the problem in more detail, quite hard to understand.

Are you using a manual focus lens with AF assist chip? AF is not accurate for this set up?

Or are you using a canon AF lens, and find that the AF is consistently off for many shots this time round when battery is low.

I think he means when battery left with 1 bar, using AF produces inaccurate focusing and when he tried to manually focus the focusing also off.

I haven't tried with 1 bar left cos I am frigging paranoid and like to have at least 2 bars left in my battery.

Still if what I guess is correct, seems like a strange problem.

 

[tonyep]

anyone notice that the camera cannot focus properly when battery is left with last bar?
photo taken is OOF even when focus confirmation icon lights up.
at 1st i thought it's because the glass is too heavy for the weak battery to power up.
but focus is off even if using MF with AF assist.
happened to my set this time only.
last few times with low batt was ok.

I usually shoot till my battery is flat before switching to another and so far have not encountered this problem.

 

[Rocky99]

I think he means when battery left with 1 bar, using AF produces inaccurate focusing and when he tried to manually focus the focusing also off.

I haven't tried with 1 bar left cos I am frigging paranoid and like to have at least 2 bars left in my battery.

Still if what I guess is correct, seems like a strange problem.

Thanks. That was what I meant. It only resolved after I changed to another fully charged battery.
Maybe its just a once off occurrence.

Didn't have this problem for the past few times when I shot till battery flat. Will continue to monitor.

 

[stevens]

take a notice of 5D3 selling rank at USA, JAPAN, UK.

DSLR Cameras Top Sales Ranking - DSLR Photography News & Reviews

 

[stevens]

5D3 ranking at USA, JAPAN, UK MARKET

 

[G-man]

take a notice of 5D3 selling rank at USA, JAPAN, UK.

DSLR Cameras Top Sales Ranking - DSLR Photography News & Reviews

So you buy your gear based on the ranking in the sales chart and not if it serves YOUR needs?

Way to go troll... first you extoll the virtues of being objective in selecting gear based on your needs here. So what exactly is your point?

 

[nathaniel]

take a notice of 5D3 selling rank at USA, JAPAN, UK.

DSLR Cameras Top Sales Ranking - DSLR Photography News & Reviews

Sales rank doesn't mean much. For example even if Canon's top selling lens is the 18-55 kit, I don't see myself craving for it.

 

[stevens]

Objective VS Subjective. Those people-fans with subjective always got strong emotions, such as passion, hate, enjoy, happy, etc. some people talk objectively here are not always welcomed. Having a personal attack means you have already lose your mind.

However, time and truth will tell us, no need to argue anymore.

People do as what they believe, and defend the belief persistently, it is subjective.