Nikon D70 failed and continuous blinking of CF light

[deadpixel]

i guess they could do a product recall but these are usually done for "life-endangering" faults, such as faulty brakes in cars, faulty electrical wiring that can start fires etc.

Not necessarily life-endangering, as I mention in the previous post, Sony has recalled a number of their products due to faults that might render the product unuseable.

Cheers

 

[zguy]

erm, i think they already have investigated the cause and acknowledged their responsibility, hence the free repair even after expiry of warranty for this particular, well-documented problem. later batches of D70s do not appear to suffer from this so one assumes that nikon has sorted it out on the production end.

acknowledgement? documented? sure..acknowledged and documented by the many users who got the "blinking light" fault. never heard anything from nikon. somebody heard it might be a unsoldered connector...

let me added one thing to the documentation. Your battery will be drained off overnight even if you remove the CF card and turned off yr d70 when you got this error.

Investigation might narrow it down to a certain batch of componments and then further into a certain batch of cameras and they can do a product recall. sudden failure of camera is definitely not life-endangering ... but it will be do good for my confidence if this fault can be explained by nikon offically.

 

[nightpiper]

eh....

wats there to agree with me? :dunno:

the "slogan" in post #191: Dun do to others wat u dun want others to do to u.. from it, i thought u like others to chase u out of other sub forums since u chase me away. anyway, i wasn't bashing Nikon. i merely pointed out a problem that Nikon has acknowledged.

it seems like many have strong resistance & denial over what Nikon has admitted.

the funny thing is, i can't say any problem that occurs with Nikon cameras (with Nikon's ack); i also can't say anything good about those who have contributed to the solution (u guys being helpful with tips). so whats there left? only holy words about Nikon? c',mon guys....

u Sith lords r hard to understand & i thought only girls r the only ones. :sweat:

 

[espn]

Nikon acknowledged what? I don't recall seeing/reading anything like that.

Frankly, we Nikon users here in this part of the sub forum CAN do without helpful trouble makers that like to steer up trouble around here. For those who can still contribute, gladly please do so as we welcome them.

But some people CANNOT take a hint to see that they are NOT welcome to contribute

Whether we devoutly worship Nikon or we only speak holy things or not, it's nothing to be commented about, it's far better than trolling into another sub forum and begin talking like as if the comments are sooooooo helpful that we Sith Lords needs to start bowing and kowtowing in thanks.

If girls and Sith Lords are HARD to understand, I would find some Olympus E-1 users even harder to understand, probably due to low frequencies of participation from other brand users (they get bored), that I find Nikon subforum continuously entered with users from all makes to make unnecessary comments and remarks.

I wonder how they would feel if we stepped into their sub forum and started crapping. :think:

And within moments/minutes moderators would step in and put an end to things, but Nikon side here seems to be FFA.

To All - http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=128909 <- Remember this?

 

[espn]

To All - http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=128909 <- Remember this?

I'm waiting...

 

[markccm]

I'm waiting...

A good read & good point by Wolfgang

It must be pointed out that there are users here who are blatantly go against the grain and the spirit of this forum by choosing to post pointless, sarcastic and un-necessary remarks. For reasons known only to themselves, they seem to enjoy antagonising fellow members or users of a different brand/model.

I think its quite clear to all the way some comments r put forth here in the Nikon sub-forum.
It goes deeper than just the words on the post itself.

One has to read between the lines.
Of course the arguement maybe one speculates too much, but a few ppl who think likewise, i would not think so.
The tone & non-verbals r more than obvious.

Then again, the comments & replies made fits exactly the description of what Wolfgang has described.
Kudos to Wolfgang for raising these points out.

Maybe there should be some followup to curb such remarks from such members that do not belong to that particular sub-forum.

My 2 cents.

 

[nightpiper]

Nikon acknowledged what? I don't recall seeing/reading anything like that.

Frankly, we Nikon users here in this part of the sub forum CAN do without helpful trouble makers that like to steer up trouble around here. For those who can still contribute, gladly please do so as we welcome them.

But some people CANNOT take a hint to see that they are NOT welcome to contribute

Whether we devoutly worship Nikon or we only speak holy things or not, it's nothing to be commented about, it's far better than trolling into another sub forum and begin talking like as if the comments are sooooooo helpful that we Sith Lords needs to start bowing and kowtowing in thanks.

If girls and Sith Lords are HARD to understand, I would find some Olympus E-1 users even harder to understand, probably due to low frequencies of participation from other brand users (they get bored), that I find Nikon subforum continuously entered with users from all makes to make unnecessary comments and remarks.

though seeing thou shalt not see, though hearing thou shalt not hear

u dun recall seeing/reading becos u chose not to. here's a quote to refresh your memory:

Nikon service center told him that it is because of the circuit board which is made in Thailand of poor quality.

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=115217&page=2&pp=20 read post #30.

if this is not Nikon admitting they have a QC issue, what is?

i have also asked the same question twice. 1st was when i repair my F80 a 2 years ago (Nikon said the same thing about Thailand for the F80) & the 2nd time was when i sent in my lens for cleaning in Jan 05 (a guy next to me with his repaired D70 & i popped this question about D70 failures after the guy left). i got a similar reply to that being mentioned. of cos u won't find whatever i say is credible, so i kept to myself.

thx for the reminder link by wolfgang. agree with what he said.

if u can see objectively, my recent input is to request this thread to be sticky so that owners of D70 can benefit from tips u guys r giving. nothing bashing or names-calling or even using the word 'lousy cam/sys/brand'. but here u r saying that i m a trouble maker / troll & all the 'shoo shoo... go away....' childish remarks from out of the blue.

when u say i m not welcome here, may i ask: do u represent the whole Nikonians community in CS? do u own CS? as far as i m concern, i still own a Nikon SLR sys which very much "qualify" me to be in this open sub forum.

dun know what r u waiting for, but if u r waiting for the mods to throw me out, i m sorry that u won't see what u want to see cos my statements didn't cross the guide lines. i have total confidence with the maturity & objectiveness of our mods. they can certainly tell who is making an objective statement & who is having petty-mindiness behaviour.

i m sorry that u can't hear/read nice beautiful words all the time. TOO BAD (quote from wolfgang) ;p . although life is a bed of roses, but remember it also has its share of thorns too. so live with it.

not to waste any more precious space in this thread for other D70 owners' tips, i suggest u stop this 'big bro' behaviour on me (for nothing) & yes, i do appreciate ur contibution in this virtual space as well as in Spinelli even though i dun own a Nikon DSLR. no hard feelings bro, for i have nothing against anyone/any brand.

 

[espn]

though seeing thou shalt not see, though hearing thou shalt not hear

u dun recall seeing/reading becos u chose not to. here's a quote to refresh your memory:

Nikon service center told him that it is because of the circuit board which is made in Thailand of poor quality.

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=115217&page=2&pp=20 read post #30.

if this is not Nikon admitting they have a QC issue, what is?

Did you read his disclaimer? I doubt you did. Don't take issues into your own intepretation.

if u can see objectively, my recent input is to request this thread to be sticky so that owners of D70 can benefit from tips u guys r giving. nothing bashing or names-calling or even using the word 'lousy cam/sys/brand'. but here u r saying that i m a trouble maker / troll & all the 'shoo shoo... go away....' childish remarks from out of the blue.

What tips? I said before the answer is service centre. The last thing you want is people flooding with the same question over and over again, which is why I keep saying SERVICE CENTERS EXISTS FOR A REASON! Threads like these serve no purpose than to give people the wrong idea that it's common and that a complain ground is available.

I can think of you as a trouble-maker, troll & "shoo, go away" is pretty fine. But if others are feeling the same way... it's no longer childish remarks. How'd you feel if I go into Olympus and teach you folks to ask Olympus to improve their AF system, sensor quality, flash system etc. Nothing wrong right? Just helping you guys benefit from the system what.

when u say i m not welcome here, may i ask: do u represent the whole Nikonians community in CS? do u own CS? as far as i m concern, i still own a Nikon SLR sys which very much "qualify" me to be in this open sub forum.

Oh it's just like taking a poll how many DARES to own up openly how they feel, I dare, and yes, if I can have a poll to throw you out, be sure many will feel the same awy. I don't need to qualify you to be in this sub-forum. I sure welcome Wai, Oeyvind, mpenza, zplus, Prismatic and even Garion inside to comment because what they comment is at least worth reading against some E-1 users'.

dun know what r u waiting for, but if u r waiting for the mods to throw me out, i m sorry that u won't see what u want to see cos my statements didn't cross the guide lines. i have total confidence with the maturity & objectiveness of our mods. they can certainly tell who is making an objective statement & who is having petty-mindiness behaviour.

Apparently you didn't read wolfgang's post carefully. Read again.

I sadly can't say the same about my confidence & objectiveness of the mods compared to your level of confidence. If I stepped into Oly right now and made these comments, be sure a warning would come right at me.

i m sorry that u can't hear/read nice beautiful words all the time. TOO BAD (quote from wolfgang) ;p . although life is a bed of roses, but remember it also has its share of thorns too. so live with it.

I don't have to hear nice words, but rather largely, it depends on who it comes from. Trolls/OMG/Cash/MinoxMan/LimCB I can do without. Classify yourself into one of the categories I just listed.

not to waste any more precious space in this thread for other D70 owners' tips, i suggest u stop this 'big bro' behaviour on me (for nothing) & yes, i do appreciate ur contibution in this virtual space as well as in Spinelli even though i dun own a Nikon DSLR. no hard feelings bro, for i have nothing against anyone/any brand.

Wow, you know you're wasting space/resources here and you have the guts to tell me to stop my behaviour?

Surely you know newton's law, for every action there must be an opposite or equal reaction. I've never thrown a "big bro" behaviour in CS, I'm not that big nor that senior, I've always regarded myself as a learner, a newbie, of course some people don't think I am, but many CSers know me knows I know nuts about cameras. :dunno:

I don't care what camera one uses, I'm only concerned about the ideas and remarks people up through here, it's bad enough having trolls and useless people around that does nothing but to stir up sparks & flames, I believe Nikon subforum can do with less.

That said. I think I've said my piece. I think it's pretty clear, I don't welcome you around, but too bad, I don't own this place, however if you can post constructive & helpful comments around, I'm sure you'll be just as welcome by others.

Cheers.

 

[nightpiper]

cool it bro, i think u r taking it too personally.

not wanting to waste more space, i m stopping here.

u have a good day. :cheers:

 

[Halfmoon]

WAh!! this thread still so active!! :bigeyes: the activeness of this thread shud tell u something already. looks like Nikon has some improvement to do & hopefull the 'S' suffix DSLR has it sorted out.

i think the moderators in this forum shud make this thread a sticky, at least until D70 is totally out of production. what do u think, mod?

Hi Nightpiper,

was your first post here???? If so, I really cannot see anything offensive.

Hope we all can just move on.... and enjoy taking pictures instead....

It is not the equipment used, but the fun of photo taking that draw us to photgraphy, so not let this minor issue spoil the mood..... :sweat:

 

[fogandflower]

Hi Nightpiper,

was your first post here???? If so, I really cannot see anything offensive.

Hope we all can just move on.... and enjoy taking pictures instead....

It is not the equipment used, but the fun of photo taking that draw us to photgraphy, so not let this minor issue spoil the mood..... :sweat:

I agree. I do not see anything offensive through out Nightpiper's posts. No point to oust him.

Personally I think this is a useful link for D70 users. It is natual for people to turn to the forum for some advice/info when their cameras suddenly dies. Going to service center is time consuming and COULD be costly if your camera's warranty already expired. Howeve, it is up to the mods to decide whether this thread should be put sticky.

 

[Pinoy_SAP]

Summary: :thumbsup:

As the creator of this "useful" thread (ehem), let me take the privilege of summarizing the important points to help the D70 owners on how to deal with the most talked about "Nikon D70 failed and continuous blinking of CF light” (also known as FCB light metering failure).

Symptoms:
1) D70 CF light indicator continuously blinks and drains your battery flat overnight.
2) Press the MENU button and the screen will just display in half a second and then disappear.
3) Camera is totally “out-of-order” and can no longer function (time to bring out your spare body)
4) Metering is totally off and produced unpredictable result which is sometimes an early symptom just before you encounter items 1 to 3.

What To Do:
1) Don’t panic! If your D70 suddenly goes offline, bro check the battery first. If you replaced the battery and the same thing happen, check the above symptoms esp. items 1-3.
2) If you are in a photo shoot/session, time to bring out your spare body and resume shooting (don’t despair, worry about it later)
3) If the above symptoms appear, NO other option but to bring it to Nikon Service center for repair.
4) Don’t feel bad, it can be repaired

Outlook:
1) This is a known problem (meaning, the problem was identified and a solution was also formulated/implemented) and the replaced component is free of charge (during warranty period).
2) The time to repair should take as little as 2-3 days to 3-4 weeks, based on the availability of the replacement spare part(s) and queue.
3) So far, there was no re-occurrence of the same problem after the repair (not that I know of, and also speaking for my own D70)
4) And lastly, a few cases with expired warranty (e.g. between 1-2 months) was able get their D70 repaired “Free of charge” – kudos to Nikon Service Center (for how long, nobody knows. just try lah).
5) For those who are engaging in “profit-related-photo-activities”, always remember to bring a back-up camera body (better prepared than sorry).

Conclusion:
1) For those who felt bad about the experience (that includes me initially), just remember that the problem can be fixed and you're back in action. An "unconfirmed" post also pointed that batches after Sept 2004 “might” be safe from this problem. No specific batches or serial number can be identified and there are no confirmed statistics for this problem. Not sure about D70s though.
2) C’mon guys, as if there is a close competitor for D70 (except for D70s, obviously) in terms of value for money and performance. So for better or worst… we will be using this camera together with your lens and flashgun (hoaah, i-TTL wireless – CLS wow!) for at least a few more months/years and who knows!
3) Anybody updated their firmware to 2.0, if not… what are you waiting for! The new firmware literally changes the look and feel of the MENU (for better I may say) and few other improvements here and there.

Ps: If this does not warrant a sticky vote, well pls make it. Thanks.

 

[Halfmoon]

I agree. I do not see anything offensive through out Nightpiper's posts. No point to oust him.

Personally I think this is a useful link for D70 users. It is natual for people to turn to the forum for some advice/info when their cameras suddenly dies. Going to service center is time consuming and COULD be costly if your camera's warranty already expired. Howeve, it is up to the mods to decide whether this thread should be put sticky.

I also feel that though I am a Canon user, it is also ideal t be aware of other brand camera, so that is why I am here, to learn and exchange, and we all learn from each other...

Also, Nightpiper also shared his Nikon experiences and I think that was informative.....

In cyber forum, FIGHTS like this is very common.... but the question is how we pick ourselve up and move on.

Life is short, and having more friends is always better than having enemies, etc.....

Hope everyone can cool down......

 

[sunnypub]

Just collect my pass from PSS, reach home take out my beloved D70 from the dry box. Want to upgrade firmware and prepare for 22May ****!!! ON the camera continuous blinking of CF light, bang the camera and close CF card cover it work for 2 minutes than die again. Throw the camera on the bed, pick up, it work again for 5minutes, take few shot and turn the dail to "A" that idiot pass way. I mean can never ON again. Rememeber this thread go thru from day 1 posting to my posting. What a bad luck, think Nikon won't be able to repair in time for me. So, if you guys see some one wearing Nikon T-shirt, using a Canon DSLR and that me. btw bought on 15Jan2005.Shuttle count 2K.

 

[Pinoy_SAP]

Just collect my pass from PSS, reach home take out my beloved D70 from the dry box. Want to upgrade firmware and prepare for 22May ****!!! ON the camera continuous blinking of CF light, bang the camera and close CF card cover it work for 2 minutes than die again. Throw the camera on the bed, pick up, it work again for 5minutes, take few shot and turn the dail to "A" that idiot pass way. I mean can never ON again. Rememeber this thread go thru from day 1 posting to my posting. What a bad luck, think Nikon won't be able to repair in time for me. So, if you guys see some one wearing Nikon T-shirt, using a Canon DSLR and that me. btw bought on 15Jan2005.Shuttle count 2K.

this is definitely a wrong timing. maybe you can still try bringing ur cam
early thursday then hopefully Nikon SC can return to you on friday :sweat:

btw, ur D70 is still very new (Jan 2005). so i guess the batches after Sept 2004 :nono: being safe from this problem is really just a rumor.

 

[sk_2]

thanks fellow CSer/tthread starter for highlighting .....

> Nikon D70 failed and continuous blinking of CF light......

at least i know, when considering the abovemention model,


cheers,

 

[willyfoo]

Hmm.. just did an event shoot just before the critical moment happened, I was shooting some kids and accidentally pressed the DOF button as the shutter was tripped.

The camera showed ERR and refused to respond...
Tried removing switching off, removing battery, removing lens etc but didn't work.

Then I noticed as I was removing the lens that the mirror was stuck on it's way up halfway..

Being very close to the critical moment, I panicked and accidentally tripped the shutter while the lens was off... which surprisingly solved the problem...

*Whew*

 

[markccm]

Hmm.. just did an event shoot just before the critical moment happened, I was shooting some kids and accidentally pressed the DOF button as the shutter was tripped.

The camera showed ERR and refused to respond...
Tried removing switching off, removing battery, removing lens etc but didn't work.

Then I noticed as I was removing the lens that the mirror was stuck on it's way up halfway..

Being very close to the critical moment, I panicked and accidentally tripped the shutter while the lens was off... which surprisingly solved the problem...

*Whew*

i got that a few times.

Wat i do is, remove the lens.
On the camera & depress the shutter.
Problem solved.

 

[stingrey]

Bought on March 2004 and hit by the same problem. :cry:
After Updating to V2.0 and use for 1 day, the next day very upset to see that its not working. Dont know the cause whether the updating or its really time to go.
Bring to Nikon Service Center and now on repair.
Still dont know how long will it take for the repair and the cost as well since the warranty expired already. :cry:

 

[melnjes]

I think this thread is very informative.

To be honest, it is making me quite jittery. Will be bringing my D70 on a 3.5 week trip without the luxury of a backup.

I was thinking if I was ever so suay to kena over there, will have to buy a D70s so that I don't miss out on the photo opportunities.