[News] Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1

[senser]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGvaRh3Zcss ..at 4.37min..GM1 third best camera in 2013..(strange, no mention EM1)
was in malacca last week..brought GM1 with 12-32 and GX1 with 45mm 1.8 and 1 more lens 20mm 1.7...no need to switch lens so often..very light setup...covered all situations...yes..somehow i also did feel the 20mm didn't do so well on the GM1 compared to on the GX1..

it's a good choice for second body
it's a good choice for carry it along all situations

there's banding under certain fluorescent lighting(hope got firmware to fix it)

 

[keithwee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGvaRh3Zcss ..at 4.37min..GM1 third best camera in 2013..(strange, no mention EM1)
was in malacca last week..brought GM1 with 12-32 and GX1 with 45mm 1.8 and 1 more lens 20mm 1.7...no need to switch lens so often..very light setup...covered all situations...yes..somehow i also did feel the 20mm didn't do so well on the GM1 compared to on the GX1..

it's a good choice for second body
it's a good choice for carry it along all situations

there's banding under certain fluorescent lighting(hope got firmware to fix it)

yeap, all in a nutshell. Small compact package to go.

the banding happened all the way from when the GX7 was released as the 2 cameras share the same sensor. Hope the firmware fix comes soon too.

 

[senser]

My regular dealer said that the GM1 is moving very slowly. Not that much demand for it, it seems. The orange one looks quite nice to me, not that I would buy one though.
Sales of the Sony A7/A7r has also screeched to a halt because of the lack of FE lenses especially now that the 35mm is also out of stock.

yep about the sony part, i think it's true..I can play with A7/A7r at bedok mall sony shop...imagine full frame camera display for all to try..i must say the clunking shutter sound is quite loud...

 

[ageha]

oh i am just a point and shoot person so most likely i leave it auto and just use the kit lens, i just simply want to get a better and sharper image quality and also small form factor and less weight is good, however handling a such a small tiny mft may prove to be tedious.. so i was wondering so far any gm1 users want to share their experience with it?

You should go into a few shops and play with the options, research the ones you like and just buy it.

I would buy the GM1 coz it isn't bigger than a RX100 mkII while still offering the option to swap lenses and I wouldn't buy cameras with smaller sensors than 1" anymore. From my experience Fujifilm's 2/3" makes it already harder to get artistic control over depth of field and forget cameras with a 1/1.7" sensor like the LX7. But it's your choice.

 

[iamnex]

hello guys, thanks for all the sharing, i read some reviews that the pop out flash is easily turn on accidentally in pocket or bag not sure if any gm1 users had this issue at all? any other annoying handling experience that gm1 owners want to tell over here??

 

[iamnex]

by the way, may i know what is the banding you guys talking about? is it only appears in lumix range? or other brands or models may exhibit such symptoms? is it annoying??

 

[ageha]

by the way, may i know what is the banding you guys talking about? is it only appears in lumix range? or other brands or models may exhibit such symptoms? is it annoying??

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/image-noise.htm

I saw it on the EM1 when used with specific Panasonic lenses, probably caused by an electronic interference.

Usually it appears mostly in shadow areas and some camera models from other brands expose exactly that issue, it can be very annoying.

 

[tomcat]

You should go into a few shops and play with the options, research the ones you like and just buy it.

I would buy the GM1 coz it isn't bigger than a RX100 mkII while still offering the option to swap lenses and I wouldn't buy cameras with smaller sensors than 1" anymore. From my experience Fujifilm's 2/3" makes it already harder to get artistic control over depth of field and forget cameras with a 1/1.7" sensor like the LX7. But it's your choice.

The main reason why I hesitate to buy Panasonic nowadays is that they like to use algorithms to make their OOC jpegs look good when using many of their sub-par lenses and I shoot RAW only and they include as native RAW converter SilkyPix which for all intent and purpose behaves like a third party converter in that it could not reproduce the settings of the camera like other brands' native converters do.

 

[NazgulKing]

The main reason why I hesitate to buy Panasonic nowadays is that they like to use algorithms to make their OOC jpegs look good when using many of their sub-par lenses and I shoot RAW only and they include as native RAW converter SilkyPix which for all intent and purpose behaves like a third party converter in that it could not reproduce the settings of the camera like other brands' native converters do.

Doesn't that apply to Olympus too?

 

[hkkairos]

gm1 is extremely tempting as a second m43 system.. poison!!

 

[Hong Jia]

gm1 is extremely tempting as a second m43 system.. poison!!

The kit lens is quite capable also. Despite the small size, OIS is built in on the kit lens. Pretty sharp at the short end as well.

 

[tomcat]

Doesn't that apply to Olympus too?

Olympus doesn't stinge on the quality of their lens optics which therefore does not require much if any software correction most of the time especially with their pro or high grade lenses. More importantly their native raw converter currently Viewer 3 though slow, can perfectly reproduce all the settings/modes of their cameras allowing me to experiment freely with the raw settings of my images. And if we are talking of comparing Olympus and Panasonic m43 bodies, I would much prefer to have image stabilization built in in the camera body rather than in the lens.

What's even more unacceptable to me when I was still using their m43 cameras is that they did not incorporate the correction for their lenses in their own SilkyPix raw converter so much so that all the optical flaws show up when converting their Raw files, flaws that were hidden by the software algorithms in their camera's JPEG engine.

 

[ageha]

Doesn't that apply to Olympus too?

Olympus has it's own converter which can bake their raw files into an viewable 8bit representation exactly as their cameras would do it when shooting jpg. I have to say I miss that from Panasonic, too. Their 3rd party Silkypix solution is pretty horrible. At the computer there is no way to reproduce their camera processing when you shoot raw files.

 

[vengels]

I thought of getting the gm1 as a second body..
But after trying it out I realised that I can't hold the body properly cause it's too small.. But with the grip it will be much better..

While watching the previews and reviews I thought I will definitely buy it but after trying it out I realised that it doesn't suit me.. But I am sure IQ wise it is definitely on par with the GX7..

 

[ageha]

I thought of getting the gm1 as a second body..
But after trying it out I realised that I can't hold the body properly cause it's too small.. But with the grip it will be much better..

While watching the previews and reviews I thought I will definitely buy it but after trying it out I realised that it doesn't suit me.. But I am sure IQ wise it is definitely on par with the GX7..

Get the dual lens kit instead which comes with the grip in the box.

 

[vengels]

Nah..
If I wanna get a small camera think I will get the Q7..
It is a better handling camera than the gm1..

Will stick to my EM1 and my DF..
Em1 goes wherever I go also as I carry a bag wherever I go..

 

[NazgulKing]

Olympus doesn't stinge on the quality of their lens optics which therefore does not require much if any software correction most of the time especially with their pro or high grade lenses. More importantly their native raw converter currently Viewer 3 though slow, can perfectly reproduce all the settings/modes of their cameras allowing me to experiment freely with the raw settings of my images. And if we are talking of comparing Olympus and Panasonic m43 bodies, I would much prefer to have image stabilization built in in the camera body rather than in the lens.

What's even more unacceptable to me when I was still using their m43 cameras is that they did not incorporate the correction for their lenses in their own SilkyPix raw converter so much so that all the optical flaws show up when converting their Raw files, flaws that were hidden by the software algorithms in their camera's JPEG engine.

Why use SilkyPix when there's Lightroom? Sure it isn't free, but I wouldn't in my right mind rely on SilkyPix or even Olympus' own software to correct for anything. And Adobe just released a color preset for Olympus cameras.

 

[NazgulKing]

Olympus has it's own converter which can bake their raw files into an viewable 8bit representation exactly as their cameras would do it when shooting jpg. I have to say I miss that from Panasonic, too. Their 3rd party Silkypix solution is pretty horrible. At the computer there is no way to reproduce their camera processing when you shoot raw files.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/1...iles-for-olympus-cameras-to-acr-and-lightroom

 

[senser]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23318005@N08/11599075773/

haha immediate improvement to grip..(mini protective foam pads)...take out and put back anytime..4 bucks for 24s

:bsmilie:it works!!

 

[tomcat]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/1...iles-for-olympus-cameras-to-acr-and-lightroom

That's exactly the reason why I don't use third party converters like LR & ACR to convert Olympus Raw or for that matter any other brands' Raw other than their own respective native raw converters. ACR may have gotten the color profile for Olympus' Natural profile almost right but look at the softness and color bleeding caused by the artifacts created by the conversion. Thank you but no thank you. I'll stick with Olympus Viewer still.