newbie studio shot


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Tempus said:
No need to be so harsh lah bro. The last time someone did that to me, i put my camera aside for 1 month. Give advise on skill, why be a critic on personality
Harsh? Well, maybe. But you picked up the camera again, right? If OP never picks up the camera again just becasue of my comment, first, i don't think I have that much influence, and second, it's just not meant to be, OP is not going to be a photographer after all.

Where did I comment on OP's personality? I told him to shoot more, don't be defensive, and when he has some experience under his belt, our comments will mean that much more to him.

My last paragraph, am I incorrect? All to often, and I do that also, we blame something/someone when we took a bad picture. There is absolutely no excuse to do that, it's always the photographer's fault. We have control, worse, we can decline to take that particular picture, right?

Give advise? How, where to start? OP needs some experience, and even he himself will be able to spot his own mistake. No need for someone else to point it out!
 

Deadpoet said:
Harsh? Well, maybe. But you picked up the camera again, right? If OP never picks up the camera again just becasue of my comment, first, i don't think I have that much influence, and second, it's just not meant to be, OP is not going to be a photographer after all.

Where did I comment on OP's personality? I told him to shoot more, don't be defensive, and when he has some experience under his belt, our comments will mean that much more to him.

My last paragraph, am I incorrect? All to often, and I do that also, we blame something/someone when we took a bad picture. There is absolutely no excuse to do that, it's always the photographer's fault. We have control, worse, we can decline to take that particular picture, right?

Give advise? How, where to start? OP needs some experience, and even he himself will be able to spot his own mistake. No need for someone else to point it out!

ok lah ok lah you win
 

thanks all. points noted;
- dist btwn model and backdrop
- soft box
- sync speed
- the pose
- the crease on the backdrop
- adjusting the lights to a higher height
 

Hello ... :D

Just to share a tip or two ...

For any meaningful or successful Portraits, the number One pointer is -- THE EYE.

Your Lighting tecnique is bland, tastless and flat ...


For a start, look at Magazines and covers for a direction -- Watchout for Catchlights in the Eyes.

- - - -
 

Deadpoet said:
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Why don't you go and shoot a lot, and when your shutter count hit 5K, come back, post your best and worse pictutre, I am sure the comments then will mean a lot more to you.
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Thats a really good advice! :thumbsup:
And yah.. very meaningful too.

Most of us (like me, n00b photographers) tend to have emotional attachment to the recent photographs we take. And we always think our recently taken images are so good, but only after some time (several months passed), then we look at again at our old photos and shout "Oh, my, that SUCKS!".

My advise for you, z-oal: Take some time to learn. Pay attention to details, like focusing. And most importantly, have fun. And learn Photoshop too, if you're shooting in Digital. A bit of Photosho's Unsharp Mask and Curves will help you improve a lot on your image posted.

My 2 and a half Cents!
 

1 more point to add, yr model face is round (I think), I would suggest to set the front light higher to reduce the roundness effect, alternatively u can ask yr model to turn the face slightly sideway to shoot 3/4 face, or use the hair to cover part of the face.
 

kex said:
when the main lighting is studio lights,u can shoot at the highest sync speed possible which is 1/250 or 1/500s,should be sharp.

i set 1/500 on my D70,not sure issit the correct speed,i usually hold it with 1 hand and direct with another hand,nvr had a off focus shot yet.

kex.... shutter sync speed will determine brightness of bg...u may wanna explore this to different effects...

furthermore...though the d70 can acheive a 1/500 sync speed...i tink majority of studio strobes cannot reach tt sync speed...

cheers...
 

Witness said:
kex.... shutter sync speed will determine brightness of bg...u may wanna explore this to different effects...

No, unless you use ambient as b/g light.
No, unless you use continuous light as b/g light. (edited)


Witness said:
furthermore...though the d70 can acheive a 1/500 sync speed...i tink majority of studio strobes cannot reach tt sync speed...
cheers...
Are you sure about this? The duration of a flash is 1/10000s or less, depends of the output, which is nothing to do with the camera sync speed.
Are you sure about this? The duration of a flash is 1/10000s or less, depends of the output, doesn’t really matter how high can your camera sync speed can goes, even if your camera can sync with flash 1/8000s. (edited)
 

above all, what was the reading on your light meter? you should take cue of the f-stop from the light meter.. what studio lights were used? 500W ones? or 180W x 3 (Jinbei)?
 

isn't it easier to control the brightness of background by adjusting the lights rather than dragging ur shutter?

most indoor studio are pretty dim,and at a usual ISO of 200 + F11 combo 1/60 or 1/500 dun make significant diff..

i'm shooting at 1/500 everyday with a Bowen,no problem with the sync issue lei..
 

z-oal said:
hi, i am new to studio photography. this is my first decent shot.
hope to get feedback and constructive comments;
- improvements?
- tips?
- lighting and etc.

I do not do this type of photography.

But images like this are taken by most photographers in their learning journey.

I think a "quick" way to get the technical skills is to learn from an experienced studio photographer.

Good luck!
 

So much "battles"... Don't be upset by these comments. I went through the very hard way too and believe me, it was really hard. Associate yourself with people that is pretty good at taking pictures of your choice (portraitures, landscapes, etc.) and observe how they shoot, what they shoot and why they shoot.

After that, you shoot the same subject and compare (if you can) your picture with them and yours. Find out why some of them can simple get very good pictures with very minimum effort and why you cannot even get a damn thing right.

Through time, I am sure you will improve. Remember, it is the attitude that counts the most. :)
 

waiaung said:
Most of us (like me, n00b photographers) tend to have emotional attachment to the recent photographs we take. And we always think our recently taken images are so good, but only after some time (several months passed), then we look at again at our old photos and shout "Oh, my, that SUCKS!".

QUOTE]

true.
 

Zeckson Chow said:
So much "battles"... Don't be upset by these comments. I went through the very hard way too and believe me, it was really hard. Associate yourself with people that is pretty good at taking pictures of your choice (portraitures, landscapes, etc.) and observe how they shoot, what they shoot and why they shoot.

After that, you shoot the same subject and compare (if you can) your picture with them and yours. Find out why some of them can simple get very good pictures with very minimum effort and why you cannot even get a damn thing right.

Through time, I am sure you will improve. Remember, it is the attitude that counts the most. :)

U are back ar... wow i see a halo behind u... agree on your points...
 

Hey DCA... Nah, I am still in a foreign land leh. ;) Just that I don't have time to really sit down and surf the site lah. Why? You miss me ah? :p :puke:
 

Zeckson Chow said:
Hey DCA... Nah, I am still in a foreign land leh. ;) Just that I don't have time to really sit down and surf the site lah. Why? You miss me ah? :p :puke:

of course miss u lah... of all the ppl in CS, you cremate to dust i also remember you... (oops... wrong expression... ;p)

show some pics to us leh, den we have discussion like before again!
 

xxxger said:
Cannot swim dun blame the swim suit too big please ... :kiss:
have you seen sharp image produce by the kit lens ?
Or since you say it no good, why bother to keep it ? :lovegrin:

Deadpoet said:
This is pathetic! You asked for tips, how to improve etc, and when someone points out what's wrong, you become defensive.

The picture you posted, at best a passable snapshot! I will be frank, it sucks. But that is ok. We all did it. Why don't you go and shoot a lot, and when your shutter count hit 5K, come back, post your best and worse pictutre, I am sure the comments then will mean a lot more to you.

Meanwhile, have a critical eye for your picture, and be honest. If the picture is out of focus, it's the photographer's fault, if the picture is blurred, it's the photographer's fault, and if it's exposred incorrectly, it's also the photographer's fault. Please don't blame your enquipment or anything/anyone else.


:thumbsd: :thumbsd: :nono:
why wanna wack the newbie ... just say nicely la ...
 

post process? need some usm?
will take it down if thread starter has objections

pose2.jpg
 

z-oal said:
hi, i am new to studio photography. this is my first decent shot.
hope to get feedback and constructive comments;
- improvements?
- tips?
- lighting and etc.

thanks. :)

Didn u do a resize in the photo? If yes you might need some usm coz it will make the photo lose it's sharpness, maybe u can try stopping down the aperture. Kit lens is quite capable. ;)
 

Do take note of the color of the back drop. Both the color of the model's jacket and the color of the back drop are dark. Not very contrasting. Some part of the hair and the jacket blend together. Unless that is what you want. Overall, the picture looks quite dark.

The model don't look relax or attitude... So it's a bit neither here nor there, in terms of her expression.

N wat is it that you want to bring out? The hair, the model or the clothes...

Don't crop the pictures exactly to the head, it looks kind of funny. Give a bit of room over her head.

No hard feeling but brother, the pictures look quite bad. But have fun, very bit of improvement counts :)

Last but not least, I'm newbie too ;)

regards
 

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