Moved from {Photo "stolen" by newspaper reporter}

[Minoxman]

A picture taken on a camera (analogue or digital) is a picture taken on a camera. A software is a software. When it comes to law and copyrights, these two don't mix. My point is, you own your work. And whatever software you use is your own problem. There's a clear line between these two things.

If someone 'stole' your pic, first thing you should do is call that dude up who used your pic or at least try to get a reply from them. A friendly call surely wont bite and probably could make your day. Try to come up with a deal, who knows they might be needing more. Do make constructive ideas and comments on how you should be protecting your work. If they still won't pay or ignore, write a formal letter to the editor. It might take a while but they won't ignore you.

I dont see the point in bringing up using pirated softwares or using original when it comes to protecting your OWN intellectual property in this issue. In fact the original softwares that you buy is 'technically speaking' NOT YOURS. Its licensed. So why brag about it? A picture that you took using your camera is yours and you can do whatever you want with it. See the difference.

I can prove a licensed software belongs to me with an official receipt and name and signature. You can never prove a negative or a CF full of crap belonging to anyone, technically speaking.

Nothing to do with duhville, btw.

 

[hazmee]

So that means all pictures can belong anyone then? How do we own our own pictures? That means everything has got to be licensed or tagged? Must have official receipt, name and signature on every picture. In the future, new digital cameras will have to some thumbprint access thingy on it just to identify it belongs to the rightful owner.

 

[Minoxman]

So that means all pictures can belong anyone then? How do we own our own pictures? That means everything has got to be licensed or tagged? Must have official receipt, name and signature on every picture. In the future, new digital cameras will have to some thumbprint access thingy on it just to identify it belongs to the rightful owner.

Probably if you go to court as a plantiff to dispute ownership , in which case Vince123 would ask you to prove otherwise. Right Vince?

 

[vince123123]

dont get whatcha saying. :dunno:

Probably if you go to court as a plantiff to dispute ownership , in which case Vince123 would ask you to prove otherwise. Right Vince?

 

[Red Dawn]

I can prove a licensed software belongs to me with an official receipt and name and signature. You can never prove a negative or a CF full of crap belonging to anyone, technically speaking.

why do you act like you are so sure of yourself when obviously you
need to ask to ascertain it?

you can do clubsnap a big favour by being helpful & polite here instead of e troll that you are here......

 

[vince123123]

:bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

why do you act like you are so sure of yourself when obviously you
need to ask to ascertain it?

you can do clubsnap a big favour by being helpful & polite here instead of e troll that you are here......

 

[Minoxman]

why do you act like you are so sure of yourself when obviously you
need to ask to ascertain it?

you can do clubsnap a big favour by being helpful & polite here instead of e troll that you are here......

I am sure I can't prove it hence the question to ask if anyone could/did. Btw, why such low class trunking links? But then you ain't the first doing things like these.

 

[Jed]

If you can't lead by example, don't try to lead.

So I suppose in the meantime you're qualified therefore to tell all of us we are hypocrits, software pirates, misguided, self-righteous, and law breakers?

I'm curious, PB, about what makes you tick, and frankly, while I cannot invite you out to coffee, I'd be very interested in having a frank and honest conversation with you. No slagging, no whatever. Unfortunately it will have to be electronic rather than in person, but my PM is always available.

 

[Minoxman]

So I suppose in the meantime you're qualified therefore to tell all of us we are hypocrits, software pirates, misguided, self-righteous, and law breakers?

QUOTE]

Aren't most of them?

 

[Jed]

Aren't most of them?

Yes indeed quite probably they are. But you're telling them not to fight so hard for their copyright because they themselves fall foul of the law. So you still haven't answered the question, are you yourself not hypocritical and blameless that you can call most of them hypocrits etc?

I'm not suggesting that you need to be, but that's the way it would be following your line of argument.

I am still keen on that PM.

 

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

Jed, i think you guys should cut out those post from minoxman & the replies to the trash side or somewhere else since it kinda looks bad as dunville have added this thread to the editor as well... then our arguements with minoxman seem to deviate to something not related with the original topics.

 

[snowspeeder]

So I suppose in the meantime you're qualified therefore to tell all of us we are hypocrits, software pirates, misguided, self-righteous, and law breakers?

I'm curious, PB, about what makes you tick, and frankly, while I cannot invite you out to coffee, I'd be very interested in having a frank and honest conversation with you. No slagging, no whatever. Unfortunately it will have to be electronic rather than in person, but my PM is always available.

I guess not everyone who blabbers so much trash and cheap talk behind a keyboard can actually find the decent courage to come face to face for an intelligent conversation.

 

[yowch]

I guess not everyone who blabbers so much trash and cheap talk behind a keyboard can actually find the decent courage to come face to face for an intelligent conversation.

Well, I guess Minoxman will have to arrange for a trip to UK or Jed a trip to Singapore!

Arrgh I am adding to the OT!

 

[hackie]

I can prove a licensed software belongs to me with an official receipt and name and signature. You can never prove a negative or a CF full of crap belonging to anyone, technically speaking.

Nothing to do with duhville, btw.

eh.. MS requires the box, cd, all documents, and the license sticker to be stuck onto ur PC before u can prove its urs.. u have all tat? :dunno:

n then, maybe u shldn't call the police if u got ur wallet/camera/watever stolen cos u also use "STOLEN" (read pirated) softwares created by others?? :dunno:

 

[Minoxman]

Yes indeed quite probably they are. But you're telling them not to fight so hard for their copyright because they themselves fall foul of the law. So you still haven't answered the question, are you yourself not hypocritical and blameless that you can call most of them hypocrits etc?

I'm not suggesting that you need to be, but that's the way it would be following your line of argument.

I am still keen on that PM.

You didn't see me shout "sue, sue!", did you? It's precisely Im not perfect that I suggest the rest not act like they are perfect. If I'd lost a wallet even while being a thief myself, I wouldn't go on net and cry foul about it(Of course, not duhville).

Jed, I do like you somehow. At least you spoke your mind coming clear and direct when needed and in the right place at the right person. Compare to some other moderators who chose to cross-refer links and suggests/imply my existing personalities in various forums and thinking their so damn smart/funny, you definitely deserve to moderate.
When moderators can start calling others "trolls" because they didn't like the way a thread start drifting but then advocate others not to be personal(ultimate LOW CLASS, IMO), I am quite comfortable where I am in this pyramid of hypocrisy.

I will definitely PM you.

 

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

You didn't see me shout "sue, sue!", did you? It's precisely Im not perfect that I suggest the rest not act like they are perfect. If I'd lost a wallet even while being a thief myself, I wouldn't go on net and cry foul about it(Of course, not duhville).

Jed, I do like you somehow. At least you spoke your mind coming clear and direct when needed and in the right place at the right person. Compare to some other moderators who chose to cross-refer links and suggests/imply my existing personalities in various forums and thinking their so damn smart/funny, you definitely deserve to moderate.
When moderators can start calling others "trolls" because they didn't like the way a thread start drifting but then advocate others not to be personal(ultimate LOW CLASS, IMO), I am quite comfortable where I am in this pyramid of hypocrisy.

I will definitely PM you.

how come a thief can't go report police about them losing their wallets? its kinda funny thou... so u suggest that dunville should show us his collection of original software then he can go seek his justice or if he dun, just keep quiet? so when ppl dun use any original should all shut up, den i think since u dun use any original software should also go shut yourself up... :blah:

 

[blurblock]

It's precisely the reasons why I don't encourage duhville to sue although he can! . Why bring in all the legal hooha when most of us were/are/will be infringing copyright laws anyway one way or the other?
No, I don't have PS boxes to show off. I doubt the majority has any.

You are right, I do not have PS boxes to show off either ..... but then I uses Linux .......

 

[duhville]

Wahhh Lannnn Deyyyyyyy!!!!!!!

from my pic kena "stolen" to pirate software to backstabbing to i talking to my lawyers to whatelse? i am sorry to say this but this is sure hell off the topic ... dudes.

first of all i didnt start this tread to be a launch pad for the flame rockets so to the guys that got blame, accuse, stabbed, robbed, or raped ... let me be the first to apologize... i really dont mean u guys to get hurt.. and for those that "used" this tread to get even or stab someone then shame on yah .. it is not nice dude.. if u think u are like that reporter that i so disappointed at .. using someone stuff for his own gain.. but then again who am i to say such stuff .. so i am sorry ..

well to the other that are really following my lame saga .. the editor didnot reply to me so what i did is to send another letter to the editor stating in short "if i dont hear from me i guess u dont give a hoot bout giving respect to the belonging of others.. then i feel i should escalate this matter to public" so if still no reply then i think i mail to TODAY .. frankly i really dont care if no money or public apology but just a call and say "i am sorry my reporter damn stupit" would be just fine.. but to ignore me wah lan de that kinda piss me off ... sigh .. some people are really one kind...

anyway pls if the admin thinks this tread is going way out of hand then feel free to close it .. cos i really dont like to see fellow snappers ..snapping at each other .. kinda a sad sight .. so admins do what u want ...

and lastly for those who support me .. i appriciate your sympathy and your concern... if the tread still up i post the reply (if any) from the editor of BH..

have a good nite rest guys

Duhville

 

[Minoxman]

Duhville, wish you well.

 

[Will03]

hi Duhville

Any updates on this matter ?