External flash for 602Z and equivalent

[Zerstorer]

Originally posted by mpenza
Had the same problem with the SB80DX as well ;p Seems alright with the SB24. I might be the camera's that's not really what it meant.

Seems alright with my Vivitar though. Using the ISO100 settings, flash seems a little hot and requires some -EV as should be the case since the camera is ISO160.

Compared the Camera's metering with my film SLR and they came up identical, so it shouldn't be the case.

Btw, what's the GN rating of the SB24@50mm?

 

[mpenza]

GN@50mm, ISO100 is 42m....

 

[fruitybix]

Originally posted by Jeff


@170 from Fotoguide w/o bargaining cause need not. I find they will automatically quote the best price.

Yep, that is fantastic deal, Fotoguide does give some of the best prices for msot things. Their filters and lenses are some of the cheapest in town.

 

[imaginary_number]

Originally posted by shawntim
One thing I don't like about the Metz.. i can't use the same settings as my cam. I always have to compensate.. does anyone have this problem how to properly use this device?

No problems. Just shoot more often and setting the flash should become second nature to you.

 

[Nospeech]

I found that Fujifilm has two models of external flash, the FPF34 and the FL-MX29. Anyone here used this flash before? Any comments?

 

[cillin]

Originally posted by mpenza
GN@50mm, ISO100 is 42m....

If shooting at ISO 100, the flash can fire up to a distance of 42m if the lens is at 50mm equivalent to 35mm?
Care to explain what does the above spec mean? Thanks.

 

[mpenza]

Originally posted by cillin


If shooting at ISO 100, the flash can fire up to a distance of 42m if the lens is at 50mm equivalent to 35mm?
Care to explain what does the above spec mean? Thanks.

GN = Distance x Aperture

divide GN by aperture to get flash range.

50mm refers to the flash, not the lens.

 

[mpenza]

Originally posted by Nospeech
I found that Fujifilm has two models of external flash, the FPF34 and the FL-MX29. Anyone here used this flash before? Any comments?

never tried them before but from what I hear, they're expensive and not worth the price.

 

[cillin]

Originally posted by mpenza


GN = Distance x Aperture

divide GN by aperture to get flash range.

50mm refers to the flash, not the lens.

GN@50mm, ISO100 is 42m....

Thanks, am I correct with the following calculation

If f 2.8, the flash range will be 42/2.8 = 15m
If f 11, the flash range will be 42/11 = 3.82m

 

[mpenza]

correct. for more info regarding external flash, you could check out the link below. There're good info on external flash towards the bottom half, especially on the various modes (TTL, auto, manual).

http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam/User-Guide/995/index.html

 

[Nospeech]

Originally posted by mpenza


never tried them before but from what I hear, they're expensive and not worth the price.

I thought so too. From the looks of the flashes (via WWW), they don't seemed to be that wonderful. From the US Fujifilm site, FL-MX29 is going at about $50 (US). I would believe this price would get me something else more worthy, am I right?

 

[mpenza]

Nospeech, get others. don't need to get that fuji one.

hmm.... there're more users of Nikon flash than any other brand ;p up for new users to update :rbounce:

 

[mpenza]

up for recent buyers to update!

 

[Cookee]

Got a Metz 32Z1 from CP at $170.

 

[Gr|ever]

Is external flash necessary? Fuji S602Z have got a flash of it's own liao. But I heard from many that it's insufficient. Why is that? Under what circumstances does having an external flash make a difference?

 

[RedDevil7]

Originally posted by Gr|ever
Is external flash necessary? Fuji S602Z have got a flash of it's own liao. But I heard from many that it's insufficient. Why is that? Under what circumstances does having an external flash make a difference?

the built-in flash on the 602 is very limited. it only allows u 2 shoot up 2 4.7m @ wide n 3m @ tele. u will really suffer when u wanna take nite shots of moving subjects. which is wat happened 2 me at the chingay recently. as a result i got myself a metz 32z-1 a few days ago. cheers!

 

[mpenza]

External flash comes in useful for the following situations:
1. when the subject is far away. Built-in flash is not powerful enough.
2. you need fast recycling time. External flash with it's own batteries recharge faster
3. conserve battery power on the camera
4. when you want to bounce the flash for a softer effect and use light more creatively (e.g. just highlight one part of the frame, etc)
5. illuminate closeby subjects, e.g. insects. buil-in flash will be blocked by the protruding lens.

Just something I think of at the spur of the moment.....

 

[RedDevil7]

Originally posted by mpenza
External flash comes in useful for the following situations:
1. when the subject is far away. Built-in flash is not powerful enough.
2. you need fast recycling time. External flash with it's own batteries recharge faster
3. conserve battery power on the camera
4. when you want to bounce the flash for a softer effect and use light more creatively (e.g. just highlight one part of the frame, etc)
5. illuminate closeby subjects, e.g. insects. buil-in flash will be blocked by the protruding lens.

Just something I think of at the spur of the moment.....

:thumbsup:

 

[mpenza]

There's a tie now between Metz 32Z1, Vivitar 285HV and Nikon highend flash....

 

[e_liau]

Originally posted by mpenza
External flash comes in useful for the following situations:
1. when the subject is far away. Built-in flash is not powerful enough.
2. you need fast recycling time. External flash with it's own batteries recharge faster
3. conserve battery power on the camera
4. when you want to bounce the flash for a softer effect and use light more creatively (e.g. just highlight one part of the frame, etc)
5. illuminate closeby subjects, e.g. insects. buil-in flash will be blocked by the protruding lens.

6. When you want to manually set the flash power by adjusting the zoom coverage, the +/- flash compensation,
7. When high-speed sync flash output is necessary.