felixcat8888
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Discussion is healthy. Why did you jump to N when you had the K10D/K20D? The K20D IMO is very good already and the K-7 with the same sensor but tweaked is even better.
Experiences with the new K-7 Camera
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Discussion is healthy. Why did you jump to N when you had the K10D/K20D? The K20D IMO is very good already and the K-7 with the same sensor but tweaked is even better.
Took some macro w/ the new K-7 camera today, here are some to share. More to come later:
Nice shots, FW. What's the F-stop used on these shots?
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Other Nikon Models not mentioned below:
lens selection.
If D90, D5000:
Reason above +
Better high ISO.
"better" screen (for D5000, subjective as to whether or not it's better).
If D300:
Reasons above +
larger viewfinder
faster focussing
Nicer viewfinder
1/8000 shutter, 1/250 x-sync
better flash system
14 bit RAW
Number of AF sensor points
6/8 FPS
more responsive (shutter lag, turn on time etc.)
If D700/D3:
Reasons above +
135 film sized sensor
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On the question of K-7 noise, though, seriously who cares. The output is in a similar range with competing cameras that I doubt it will affect a Pentax user who wants to stick with Pentax and accept the advantages/disadantages of the Pentax system. I will stand corrected if the D300s/60D or 7D have significantly better noise control without compromising detail, but I'm not too hopeful about that. Against the current competitors even the K20D was generally acceptable (more noise, also more detail).
flipfreak
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so is it right to assume the k7 is as fast as the entry and mid level canon models?
le petit prince
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From: http://www.pentaximaging.com/slr/K-7/
Continuous FPS; - 5.2 FPS (40 JPG Continuous Hi, 15 RAW PEF, 14 RAW DNG); - 3.3 FPS (unlimited JPG Continuous Lo, 17 RAW PEF/DNG)
As for comparison to Canon's DSLRs, I can't be bothered to check.. maybe you can tell us?
Lens correction is not applied to the DA 10-17mm Fisheye lens.
flipfreak
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tats the fps. i am curious to know in terms to focus acquisition, shutter lag, etc how it matches up to the canon dslr.
AFS is close, but maybe still not there yet... i only tried canon during trade shows/PC shows, its fast... almost instantaneous ...K-7 AFC still not there yet... but thats base on no motorizes lens i tried on the K-7... canon mosts are with USM so hard to compare... but the k-7 SDM lens seems slight improvement...
overall i think AFS is faster, no more hunting...which is a good sign...whether has they caught up with N/C, still got room for improvement...
AFC and shutter lag still cannot touch N/C yet...
but overall its a good camera which can delivery quality pics if u are not into too many fast action...
flipfreak
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AFS is close, but maybe still not there yet... i only tried canon during trade shows/PC shows, its fast... almost instantaneous ...K-7 AFC still not there yet... but thats base on no motorizes lens i tried on the K-7... canon mosts are with USM so hard to compare... but the k-7 SDM lens seems slight improvement...
overall i think AFS is faster, no more hunting...which is a good sign...whether has they caught up with N/C, still got room for improvement...
AFC and shutter lag still cannot touch N/C yet...
but overall its a good camera which can delivery quality pics if u are not into too many fast action...
spec and performance is definitely better than entry levels from the other brands like 500D and D50 and the size can be an advantage as well. but pricing is not very attractive yet so doesnt make sense to get a body from different brand at the moment. hope the pricing will be more attractive next yr then. can share lens with my friend also.
AFS is close, but maybe still not there yet... i only tried canon during trade shows/PC shows, its fast... almost instantaneous ...K-7 AFC still not there yet... but thats base on no motorizes lens i tried on the K-7... canon mosts are with USM so hard to compare... but the k-7 SDM lens seems slight improvement...
overall i think AFS is faster, no more hunting...which is a good sign...whether has they caught up with N/C, still got room for improvement...
AFC and shutter lag still cannot touch N/C yet...
but overall its a good camera which can delivery quality pics if u are not into too many fast action...
That sounds about right.
I think the lack of focus speed is partly due to the lack of ring USM in the Pentax lenses while the competition (C, N, S) have ring USM on most of their lenses. DA* lenses have the micromotor instead of the ceramic ring drive found in Canikon.
K-7's AF-C is definitely improved over the K20D, but still not as good as the A700 or D300. I tried out an A700 with kit lens (non USM?) yesterday at the Sony store, and the thing was bloody fast and accurate...damn..it 'feels' even faster than the D300. K-7 is definitely not as fast. I am not impressed by Canon's AF-C; the few times I tried it on the 50D and 5D-II with an L lens, it struggled to track properly and the shots were OOF.
TBH, I've not been bothered by the K20D's shutter 'lag', so no complaints on that front.
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scorpioh
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I think you got it wrong. K7 is not an entry camera.spec and performance is definitely better than entry levels from the other brands like 500D and D50 and the size can be an advantage as well. but pricing is not very attractive yet so doesnt make sense to get a body from different brand at the moment. hope the pricing will be more attractive next yr then. can share lens with my friend also.
scorpioh
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I doubt so. The camera is intelligent enuff.
felixcat8888
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spec and performance is definitely better than entry levels from the other brands like 500D and D50 and the size can be an advantage as well. but pricing is not very attractive yet so doesnt make sense to get a body from different brand at the moment. hope the pricing will be more attractive next yr then. can share lens with my friend also.
Flipfreak, K-7 is a level higher than the current K20D, NOT entry level. THE entry level Pentax is the K-m.;p
flipfreak
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yeah. i think it came out wrong. i meant the camera has better specs than the rest with the same size.
flipfreak
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sorry for the miscomm. i meant comparing the size of the camera.
spec and performance is definitely better than entry levels from the other brands like 500D and D50 and the size can be an advantage as well. but pricing is not very attractive yet so doesnt make sense to get a body from different brand at the moment. hope the pricing will be more attractive next yr then. can share lens with my friend also.
I'd feel the pricing is reasonable for a new flagship, compared to the competition. You get weather-sealing, exceptional build quality, a 100% pentaprism viewfinder, and also an enhanced in-body shake-reduction.
The latter already saves you cost on future lens purchases, and for the nostalgic it adds fizz to your older but great lenses.
For converts and inductees, they need to consider total cost of ownership, which i think Pentax aces in that aspect.
flipfreak
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I'd feel the pricing is reasonable for a new flagship, compared to the competition. You get weather-sealing, exceptional build quality, a 100% pentaprism viewfinder, and also an enhanced in-body shake-reduction.
The latter already saves you cost on future lens purchases, and for the nostalgic it adds fizz to your older but great lenses.
For converts and inductees, they need to consider total cost of ownership, which i think Pentax aces in that aspect.
already got a camera that serves the former. i am looking for something small n easy to use for travel and stuff.
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