Epson Stylus 895 Printer


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Well, the last time I did my calculations, you'll need to print about 100 8x10s before you equal lab costs (due to fixed cost of the printer). Think you'll print that many before the printer dies?
 

Originally posted by Wolfgang
How is the print quality like for the Epson 895? :dunno:

Like what Ckiang said, it will be good enough to make you go WOW as long as you don't do direct comparisons while staring closely.

The 895/870/1270 belong to the same generation and use similar printheads. The 830 is based on a newer print engine although it is admittably the lowest in the series.

I've done prints from an Epson Photo 1200(A3) and HP7150 as well. Lab prints on Fuji Crystal Archive do seem to have slightly better shadow detail, but that may be moot since I'm printing on a friends printer and the settings may not be fully optimized.

The key thing is that for 5R and below prints, it will be best to print in the labs.Anything larger, printing it on ur own printer is both fun, economical and satisfying. :)
 

Ok, with everything almost said and done, my last (and hopefully final) question would be.... :D

Is it worth paying $350 for the 895, which is brand new and have never been taken out from it's box?
:p
 

Originally posted by Wolfgang
Ok, with everything almost said and done, my last (and hopefully final) question would be.... :D

Is it worth paying $350 for the 895, which is brand new and have never been taken out from it's box?
:p

IMO, no. Although indeed its a good price for something with that array of features. However, these features don't seem that useful to me.
 

Originally posted by Zerstorer
Like what Ckiang said, it will be good enough to make you go WOW as long as you don't do direct comparisons while staring closely.

The 895/870/1270 belong to the same generation and use similar printheads. The 830 is based on a newer print engine although it is admittably the lowest in the series.

I've done prints from an Epson Photo 1200(A3) and HP7150 as well. Lab prints on Fuji Crystal Archive do seem to have slightly better shadow detail, but that may be moot since I'm printing on a friends printer and the settings may not be fully optimized.

The key thing is that for 5R and below prints, it will be best to print in the labs.Anything larger, printing it on ur own printer is both fun, economical and satisfying. :)

Yeah, it's more worth it doing 8R yourself, the smaller ones like 4R are best printed in the lab. I did some calculations earlier:

1 Pack of Premium Glossy Photo Paper: $25 for a pack of 20
1 T008 Epson Colour Cartridge : $28
1 Cartridge lasts me about 20 photo prints.

Therefore, cost per A4 page is $25/20 + 28/20 = $1.25 + $1.40 = $2.65.

Each A4 can hold 3 4Rs (4x6), so each 4R costs $0.88
Each A4 can hold 2 5Rs (5x7), so each 5R costs $1.325
Each A4 can hold only 1 8R (8x10), which costs a mere $2.65.

In comparison a lab print of 8x10" costs $7, 5x7 costs $3.

Regards
CK
 

Originally posted by Wolfgang
Ok, with everything almost said and done, my last (and hopefully final) question would be.... :D

Is it worth paying $350 for the 895, which is brand new and have never been taken out from it's box?
:p

Not worth it. $350 can buy the new Epson Stylus 900 if I am not wrong, and that can print directly onto supported CD-Rs.

Regards
CK
 

Originally posted by Zerstorer
IMO, no. Although indeed its a good price for something with that array of features. However, these features don't seem that useful to me.

What features would that be? :dunno:
 

Originally posted by ckiang

Therefore, cost per A4 page is $25/20 + 28/20 = $1.25 + $1.40 = $2.65.

In comparison a lab print of 8x10" costs $7, 5x7 costs $3.

Wah, prices have dropped!

Now, doing a simple and quick cost analysis, with the printer at $350, it only makes sense to buy the printer if you're doing more than 80 8x10 prints within the printer's lifespan, excluding maintainence costs.
 

whoops, forgot about the $5 handling fee most labs charge. If you consolidate 10 8x10s before you print, you'd have to print more than 72 prints before the printer is a better choice; more than 65 if you consolidate 5 8x10s, and more than 37 if you don't bother consolidating.
 

Originally posted by Wolfgang
What features would that be? :dunno:

Roll paper feeder, automatic paper cutter, Direct print.

The new Epson 900 doesn't have the direct print capability and automatic cutter but has a CDR print capability and the newer print head. It also has the larger T009 cartridges of the 1270/1290 series which makes it slightly more economical in terms of ink usage.

Don't forget the Epson 830 and HP 7150 for only <$239.:)
 

Originally posted by Zerstorer
Roll paper feeder, automatic paper cutter, Direct print.

The new Epson 900 doesn't have the direct print capability and automatic cutter but has a CDR print capability and the newer print head. It also has the larger T009 cartridges of the 1270/1290 series which makes it slightly more economical in terms of ink usage.

Don't forget the Epson 830 and HP 7150 for only <$239.:)

The 895 has built-in paper cutter? Thought only the new ones like 2100 has it.

Direct print not useful lar. Most of the time you would want to touch up, crop, etc. :)

Regards
CK
 

Originally posted by ckiang
The 895 has built-in paper cutter? Thought only the new ones like 2100 has it.

Oops. Tot it had a manual cutter at least.

Even less useful if it doesn't.
 

Originally posted by Zerstorer
Roll paper feeder, automatic paper cutter, Direct print.

The new Epson 900 doesn't have the direct print capability and automatic cutter but has a CDR print capability and the newer print head. It also has the larger T009 cartridges of the 1270/1290 series which makes it slightly more economical in terms of ink usage.

Don't forget the Epson 830 and HP 7150 for only <$239.:)

And how do these printers fare when it comes to printing normal day to day document and printing speed for photographs? :) And the print quality? Sorry for all the question tho'. Just want to make sure it's money well spent.

I don't really need direct print you see.. just thought i could use it to double up as a card reader. ;)

cK/Zerstorer, thanks for pointing so many things out about printers... :) Keep them coming!:embrass:
 

Wolfie, sorry for the late response but I am a 895 user.

For info, the colour catridges are around S$30 for each. If u intend to print more colour photos than normal doc, then it is ok. But if u print a lot of documents in B & W, then the answer is no.

U see, for the printer to print, u need both the colour and black catridge inside the printer. Moreover, the black cat is pretty small, so u can't really print much with limited ink. Don't forget, u will need the use of the black cat even though u are printing colour photo, so the black cat may run out pretty fast...

Another is print speed. The 895 prints B & W document pretty fast (for me at least) but I must say the colour photos is really slow, takes up to 8-10 mins to print A4 colour paper and 4R abt 5-6 mins each sheet. If u set the high colour resolution of course, say 1200 dpi. The qlty is very good, but then again only if u use good qlty photo paper.

Yes, the card slot can act as a reader, so u don't need to buy another card reader.

The pt is this, do u need direct print? If yr answer is yes after all the above consideration, then go get it. I will tell u as a user, the direct print from the card slot somehow is better than going thru the PC, even when u are able to adjust the DPI setting on the PC. I don't know why that is the case.

If u have further queries, pm me.
 

Originally posted by Wolfgang
And how do these printers fare when it comes to printing normal day to day document and printing speed for photographs? :) And the print quality? Sorry for all the question tho'. Just want to make sure it's money well spent.

I don't really need direct print you see.. just thought i could use it to double up as a card reader. ;)

cK/Zerstorer, thanks for pointing so many things out about printers... :) Keep them coming!:embrass:

Document printing is pretty decent. But nothing like a laser print of coz. ;)

Regards
CK
 

Originally posted by Wolfgang
Ok, with everything almost said and done, my last (and hopefully final) question would be.... :D

Is it worth paying $350 for the 895, which is brand new and have never been taken out from it's box?
:p

Ah I see you're considering to take Lilz's offer? ;)
 

Originally posted by AdamGoi
Ah I see you're considering to take Lilz's offer? ;)

Told her i was interested by might still change my mind after i join you at Canon's show and tell tomorrow. ;)
 

Originally posted by Wolfgang
Told her i was interested by might still change my mind after i join you at Canon's show and tell tomorrow. ;)

Haha ... that's why I'm looking forward to i850 and i950 can do! ;)
 

Originally posted by jeff chen
Wolfie, sorry for the late response but I am a 895 user.

For info, the colour catridges are around S$30 for each. If u intend to print more colour photos than normal doc, then it is ok. But if u print a lot of documents in B & W, then the answer is no.

U see, for the printer to print, u need both the colour and black catridge inside the printer. Moreover, the black cat is pretty small, so u can't really print much with limited ink. Don't forget, u will need the use of the black cat even though u are printing colour photo, so the black cat may run out pretty fast...

Another is print speed. The 895 prints B & W document pretty fast (for me at least) but I must say the colour photos is really slow, takes up to 8-10 mins to print A4 colour paper and 4R abt 5-6 mins each sheet. If u set the high colour resolution of course, say 1200 dpi. The qlty is very good, but then again only if u use good qlty photo paper.

Yes, the card slot can act as a reader, so u don't need to buy another card reader.

The pt is this, do u need direct print? If yr answer is yes after all the above consideration, then go get it. I will tell u as a user, the direct print from the card slot somehow is better than going thru the PC, even when u are able to adjust the DPI setting on the PC. I don't know why that is the case.

If u have further queries, pm me.

Hey, thanks! :) Your comments really helped alot! :D

Now, let me go check out my options and if i reckon this printer is still the one for me, i'll take up the offer. :)

Meanwhile, thanks. :)

PS: How much did you buy your printer for? :D
 

Erm... in case no one has noticed, there is a new sub-forum for discussion of Printing and Scanning.

Moving this from Kopitiam to the appropriate section.
 

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