D90 User Group

[gergd09]

Congrats man! The lure of the "DARKER" side is irresistable huh?! :bsmilie:

tnx!
yup! I've been hooked into the dark side :sweatsm:
was contemplating between 550D and D90.
think I chose better picture quality than better video recording
i hope so...

 

[gravism]

tnx!
yup! I've been hooked into the dark side :sweatsm:
was contemplating between 550D and D90.
think I chose better picture quality than better video recording
i hope so...

Welcome aboard bro! :thumbsup:

 

[daredevil123]

Okay, no grips for me PERIOD... Besides, I'd prefer to save the weight AND $$$ for the lens collection... :bsmilie:

Mucho gracias amigo!

You are very much welcome.

The price of a grip can get me a good Ai/Ais lens already.

 

[iandao]

hi all~

just gotten my 1st ever DSLR ytd..lol my wife told me that i even murmuring abt my new cam while sleeping..LOL :sweatsm:

 

[MacroMarlin]

hi all~

just gotten my 1st ever DSLR ytd..lol my wife told me that i even murmuring abt my new cam while sleeping..LOL :sweatsm:

Congrats, bro!
Tell your wife, next you'll be shouting "BUY! BUY! BUY!" in your sleep!

....lots of goodies should be coming your way soon,...for sure!:sweat::bsmilie::bsmilie:

 

[kriegsketten]

hi all~

just gotten my 1st ever DSLR ytd..lol my wife told me that i even murmuring abt my new cam while sleeping..LOL :sweatsm:

Urm, be very careful not to treat your wifey like a DSLR okay? Enjoy the cam, dude!

 

[iandao]

yuppp thanks dudes~

still trying to figure out what those buttons are for..lol...

pretty intimidated by the 'suddenly so many' functions available in this camera.. :sweat:

think it will take me quite awhile b4 my hands start to itch for more goodies..:angel:

Congrats, bro!
Tell your wife, next you'll be shouting "BUY! BUY! BUY!" in your sleep!

....lots of goodies should be coming your way soon,...for sure!:sweat::bsmilie::bsmilie:

Urm, be very careful not to treat your wifey like a DSLR okay? Enjoy the cam, dude!

 

[iandao]

another qn, is the kit lens (18-135mm) that comes with my camera suitable for taking potraits, that kind of stuff?

cause i bought tis camera mainly to shoot my bb boy who is due this late oct~ :sweatsm: :bsmilie:

 

[kriegsketten]

yuppp thanks dudes~

still trying to figure out what those buttons are for..lol...

pretty intimidated by the 'suddenly so many' functions available in this camera.. :sweat:

think it will take me quite awhile b4 my hands start to itch for more goodies..:angel:

Time to whip out the manual and bring it everywhere you go... the kitchen, downstairs, to the market, hawker center... and even the loo (hold nose tight).... :bsmilie:

Don't stop reading until it becomes "kiam-chye"... Trust me, you'll learn a lot of things than keep asking around...

 

[iandao]

yeahh treating it like a bible.:lovegrin:

Time to whip out the manual and bring it everywhere you go... the kitchen, downstairs, to the market, hawker... and even the loo (hold nose tight).... :bsmilie:

Don't stop reading until it become "kiam-chye"... Trust me, you'll learn a lot of things than keep asking around...

 

[kriegsketten]

another qn, is the kit lens (18-135mm) that comes with my camera suitable for taking potraits, that kind of stuff?

cause i bought tis camera mainly to shoot my bb boy who is due this late oct~ :sweatsm: :bsmilie:

Don't talk, whip out the cam and start shooting! Any mid-length-abled lens can do portrait (just depends on how extreme you wanna go)!... You have only a few months left... you dun want a disgruntled bb looking right back at you for last minute failures! :bsmilie:

 

[iandao]

alright man..will start taking pictures really soon, and please 多多指教~！ :sweat:

Don't talk, whip out the cam and start shooting! Any mid-length-abled lens can do portrait (just depends on how extreme you wanna go)!... You have only a few months left... you dun want a disgruntled bb looking right back at you for last minute failures! :bsmilie:

 

[kriegsketten]

alright man..will start taking pictures really soon, and please 多多指教~！ :sweat:

When you have time, google on how to do portrait shots - see what they look like and try to imitate that as much as possible.

Read up on ISO levels (so in certain dark conditions - like delivery rooms, indoor) you might want to boost it up higher so that you have enough light for the cam that you won't need to use the flash and use a bigger aperture (3.5, 4, 5.6 etc). Learn to drop the use of flash or else you'll give your bb nightmares and irritate the hell out of your wifey...

The only way to improve is to shoot, change setting, shoot, change setting, compare images between changed settings, and so forth...

Understand what is underexposure and what is over... etc etc

Like I've said, depending on your learning abilities and speed learning, time is ticking... Might as well start early! Good luck!

Show and tell in the galleries and be prepared for critisms - learn with open heart and mind!

 

[daredevil123]

another qn, is the kit lens (18-135mm) that comes with my camera suitable for taking potraits, that kind of stuff?

cause i bought tis camera mainly to shoot my bb boy who is due this late oct~ :sweatsm: :bsmilie:

Congrats! my bb is due early oct. :sweat:

btw looking at your kit lens 18-135, did you get the D80?

18-135 can take portraits also. Thing is, it is not good to use flash on bb. I suggest you get a 50mm/1.8 (around 160 used, 190 new) to shoot your bb indoors.

 

[HelloNiHao]

daredevil: regarding the rubber coming off the grips of D200/D300, does it also apply to D700?

 

[daredevil123]

daredevil: regarding the rubber coming off the grips of D200/D300, does it also apply to D700?

Seems like it...

http://www.flickr.com/groups/nikond700/discuss/72157621848951850/

 

[HelloNiHao]

Seems like it...

http://www.flickr.com/groups/nikond700/discuss/72157621848951850/

Wah seriously man.. That's not good...

 

[daredevil123]

Wah seriously man.. That's not good...

Actually I heard it costs around $80 to replace at NSC after warranty period. Should be covered under warranty if it happens during warranty.

BTW it happens on a D90 too, just that it does not happen as much.

Actually there is a wonderful explanation on why this happens:

Quoted from http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1021&message=32714580&changemode=1.
Written by MasterOfGoingFaster

This problem is due to the type of material used. The soft grips are molded from TPE - ThermoPlastic Elastomer - a mixture of a thermoplastic and rubber. This stuff can be molded in a few seconds vs. several minutes that rubber takes. So for a mass-produced product, TPE is an amazing space-age material. You can alter the softness of the material by changing the ratio of plastic to rubber. Google "Santoprene" for more information.

But rubber contains oil, and the more rubber you have in a TPE, the more oil you have. Over time, the oil can migrate from the rubber to the adhesive. This can cause it to come loose. If you use a harder TPE like the low-end Nikons and Canons, it will adhere better, but you lose the soft grip. Anything that would not come loose would not be removable for service. So you have to decide between soft grip or good adhesion. I'll take the soft grip.

Heat and solvents are the enemy of the adhesive. Leaving the camera in a hot car will soften the adhesive, and if you start using it right away, you cause it to "slip" and tear the bond. Some of these new anti-bacterial hand cleaners contain alcohol and will degrade the grip. Storage with bottles of alcohol-based lens and sensor cleaners will cause degradation of the adhesive.

I am hopeful that Nikon will come up with a better adhesive, and I can tell you the TPE vendors are well aware of this issue and are working on it. So this problem should go away at some point.

BTW, plastic bodies could be made with 2-shot molding. That is where you mold the rigid part first, then mold the soft TPE on top. The second shot injects hot TPE on the rigid part, which melts the surface, causing it to bond. This allows them to have both a soft grip and a rigid support structure. This is how they mold consumer products like screwdriver handles, power tools and other plastic parts with soft grips. But when you have a metal body (Nikon pro camera), it can be tough to get the soft TPE to adhere.

 

[kriegsketten]

Congrats! my bb is due early oct. :sweat:

btw looking at your kit lens 18-135, did you get the D80?

18-135 can take portraits also. Thing is, it is not good to use flash on bb. I suggest you get a 50mm/1.8 (around 160 used, 190 new) to shoot your bb indoors.

Wah! Cool man! Hopefully your shoot'n time after entering fatherhood doesn't disappear too suddenly. Don't get me wrong I'm not cursing,only a natural progression in life and you'll get your full shoot'n time back, no worries! (been there, done that!)... :bsmilie:

Yeah I was going to recommend some quicker lens like the 50mms too... but I figure we should let iandao play around first until he gets the hang of the DSLR (more important than jumping into something even more confusing as the lenses)... but you beat me to it! :sweat:

 

[kriegsketten]

Actually I heard it costs around $80 to replace at NSC after warranty period. Should be covered under warranty if it happens during warranty.

BTW it happens on a D90 too, just that it does not happen as much.

Actually there is a wonderful explanation on why this happens:

Quoted from http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1021&message=32714580&changemode=1.
Written by MasterOfGoingFaster

I don't think it requires extreme heat to get the grip to come loose... remember the 550D I mentioned at the CSR? Looks like it is across the board - any brand that uses such a material will face such problems.

I can understand why many would prefer softer grip, particularly in the colder regions (where there are extreme winters). During the cold it is very easy to slip the cam body off your hands (even with gloves or mits) - the soft grip probably prevents that from happening. Soft grip probably retains heat better than hard grips. Heat creates friction, without heat, the friction is lesser - hence, hard grips looses out to soft grips.