D5100 user...fall in!! Part Two


Your camera metering would still be inaccurate even you mount on your flash. A lot of times would depend on your experience. Depend your location, is it open area or indoor. If it is indoor, is the ceiling high or low.

Thanks Reno. I can't find anyone who share their experience if we need to check built in light meter or not during flash shooting. Most of them only share shutter speed control ambient light and aperture control flash power only.
 

From my understanding, if you turn on the long exposure noise reduction feature then it will take double time. For example if long exposure NR feature on then you expose for 30 seconds, it will take 60 seconds to complete it.

I don't think it's due to memory card because no matter long exposure or short expose, photo memory size almost the same only. So speed of memory writing only affected if file size too big or burst too many photo in short time. By the way long exposure sure take a bit longer to process. :)

i guess that's the main reason i felt its slow.....
 

Thanks Reno. I can't find anyone who share their experience if we need to check built in light meter or not during flash shooting. Most of them only share shutter speed control ambient light and aperture control flash power only.

hi bro, just to share what i experience n think as i'm not as pro as the lao jiaos here :)

for me, i have SB700 and when i got it, I played to see the flash throw comparing the settings and the actual throw of flash. from there i gauge the settings i used, like in meters, n the light i want to throw, whether strong or weak flash. that is also taking into consideration the aperture n shutter settings i want to use and how i want the subject to be lighted. i played a few times until i am familiar with the behaviour n usually execute it based on my imagination. most of the time i got it right but sometimes i do need to adjust it. btw, i'm always using manual mode for the flash. whenever i hit the limitation of the flash, i usually adjust the angle of the flash but most of the time i use bounce with diffuser. so either i bounce from the ceiling or from the wall. i played more "fill in" flash lights rather than direct. only when i do macro then i flash direct with a very weak flash just enough to fill in the subject. hope it can help ya....

shoot more.....no worries....
 

hi bro, just to share what i experience n think as i'm not as pro as the lao jiaos here :)
shoot more.....no worries....

Thanks bro. For normal shooting I will follow the built in light meter to get correct exposure, sometimes might under or over a bit to get my expected result.

But in dark area the light meter show very very under exposure even we attached flash gun. So my doubt if this is how it work, please correct me if I'm wrong.

When we attached flash gun TTL mode, then we set our camera setting to hand held capability f2.8, 1/60 & ISO 1200. Then don't care the light meter under exposure how much, just shoot the photo and TTL flash will auto compensate to get correct exposure?

Based on my reading, flash gun will flash 2 times in every shoot. 1st time shoot and let camera calculate how much flash power it really need, then second flash light ON with correct power. But these process happened too fast, so we thought flash only light up 1 time.
 

i guess that's the main reason i felt its slow.....

Check manual page 154 for "Long Exposure NR", it got mentioned increasing the time required to record images by roughly 1.5 to 2 times. Hope this help.
 

Thanks bro. For normal shooting I will follow the built in light meter to get correct exposure, sometimes might under or over a bit to get my expected result.

But in dark area the light meter show very very under exposure even we attached flash gun. So my doubt if this is how it work, please correct me if I'm wrong.

When we attached flash gun TTL mode, then we set our camera setting to hand held capability f2.8, 1/60 & ISO 1200. Then don't care the light meter under exposure how much, just shoot the photo and TTL flash will auto compensate to get correct exposure?

Based on my reading, flash gun will flash 2 times in every shoot. 1st time shoot and let camera calculate how much flash power it really need, then second flash light ON with correct power. But these process happened too fast, so we thought flash only light up 1 time.

uumm....ok, correct me if i'm wrong. when we have the flash mounted, there r 2 settings of EV (exposure compensation value). one on the camera n the other on the flash LCD screen itself. in most cases, with iTTL mode, the camera will check ur flash settings and then they should synchronise the EV settings (i will check again by playing iTTL mode with my cam n speedlight). but looking at ur settings of f2.8, 1/60 & ISO 1200, it seems that you will get an overexposed shot with the flash, am i correct?

i usually use the iphone app of light meter. the app is not bad and can give u the near correct reading. u can also chg ur shutter speed, iso or aperture stops and it will change for u accordingly for the other settings. so far i based on this n it quite worked for me.
 

there r 2 settings of EV (exposure compensation value). one on the camera n the other on the flash LCD screen itself.

I never tried flash in manual mode before, my TTL mode already bo stable liao not dare to try manual yet. Haha..

But my understanding there are 2 type of EV compensation, one is the exposure another one is flash compensation.

Exposure compensation only work in S or A mode, which mean camera set the correct exposure and add in your desired compensation (EV value). +1 EV mean camera will give 1 stop over expose and so on. But a small tips here if it help, I'm using M mode shooting which I feel less setting need to control. Set the ISO, aperture then play with shutter speed. For example correct expose on light meter need 1/100, but u need +1 EV so you just reduce shutter speed 3 click until light meter show 1 bar over expose. So you don't need bother the exposure compensation, all the way play with shutter speed, aperture or ISO is enough. Copy lao jiao talk, "don't let the camera control your photo, you are the photographer" ;p

Back to flash compensation, if you +1 for flash compensation then flash will give you higher 1 power than it "saw" or so called detected. For example you using TTL mode and feel the flash too bright, so you reduce flash compensation a bit. If flash use under manual setting, I have doubt flash compensation will affected the flash power.
 

My standard setting for using flash:

Flash tilt 45degree with diffuser
Manual mode setting: aperture F8, shutter speed: 1/60 - 1/80.
 

Flash tilt 45degree with diffuser

I guess I should buy 1 pack of battery then keep trying on tree until I know what I'm doing. ;p

Indoor bounce light still work for me, when outdoor night time with no ceiling and super low light then I got problem liao. Bounce light then head bright leg dark, no bounce then shadow etc.. Until my flash become secret weapon keep in the bag(not dare to touch).
 

I guess I should buy 1 pack of battery then keep trying on tree until I know what I'm doing. ;p

Indoor bounce light still work for me, when outdoor night time with no ceiling and super low light then I got problem liao. Bounce light then head bright leg dark, no bounce then shadow etc.. Until my flash become secret weapon keep in the bag(not dare to touch).

outdoor also easy... use tripod.... fill flash with rear curtain sync... hehehe
 

hi guys,

just wondering, any bros here has experience with the shop at funan near the overhead bridge to adelphi? J** opp royal sporting. thxs.
 

hi guys,

just wondering, any bros here has experience with the shop at funan near the overhead bridge to adelphi? J** opp royal sporting. thxs.

Nope.... :think:
 

Konspire said:
hi guys,

just wondering, any bros here has experience with the shop at funan near the overhead bridge to adelphi? J** opp royal sporting. thxs.

Don't go there. That's all I can say.
 

Look like there's a new shop at level 1 too, not sure if its an honest shop.
 

Look like there's a new shop at level 1 too, not sure if its an honest shop.

You mean the shop call "Capture Photo"?

I saw bally photo staff working at there, what do you think?
 

spree86 said:
Hard to say, might turn out to be another SLRR

The shop frontage of Capture photo is prime location. Ground floor next to an entrance. Quite clearly targeted at tourists and walk in crowd. I work nearby so I walk pass the shop almost everyday, common to see tourists inside. I have no evidence to suggest that it is a, shall we say, premium shop...but I think I will stick to my regular shops.
 

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