d300s or d90 which is worth buying?


It seems many people here do not have a clear understanding of the differences between the 2 cameras.

Having used both the D90 and D300s, let me set the record straight one more time.

Image quality comparison
D90 and D300s uses the same sensor. Image quality is almost the same. ISO performance is almost the same. D90 seems better but it is because it is a consumer model and tuned to have a slightly stronger NR. D300s is more of a professional model and it is tuned to retain more details. Yes this is true even at the RAW files level.


What D300s has that D90 doesn't
- D300s has ability to meter with Ai Ais lenses. You can use center weighted or stop metering by default. If you enter the info into "non-cpu lens info" you will be able to use Color matrix metering.
- Magnesium alloy body with weather sealing
- 7 FPS (slightly over 6FPS in real life). Can boost up to 8 FPS with grip and using D3's battery.)
- Mirror up shooting mode to reduce even more vibrations. Quiet shooting mode. Fast Continuous and Slow Continuous shooting mode.
- Faster and more accurate AF.
- Bigger magnesium alloy body.
- You can store sets of settings in D300s, calling them up at will
- Many more buttons for faster access
- Built in interval timer
- 100% viewfinder
- Dual memory card slots (CF and SDHC)
- 51 AF points (configurable to 11 or 9)
- A lot more info and options in Image review mode. When reviewing images, automatic face detection for checking focus on faces, RGB histograms, active focus point indication.. etc..

Downsides of D300s
- Significantly heavier
- Cannot use cheap wireless IR remote for D90. D300s requires you use the remote port located on the front of the body. More troublesome and remotes are more expensive.
- Camera is a lot more expensive.
- D300s' battery grip is a lot more expensive.
- D300s loses all the scene modes from the D90. If you choose D300s, you're on your own.

Should you get D90 or D300s (IMHO)

- If you do not shoot in extreme conditions (extreme cold, wet, jungle, snow, rain), go for D90.
- If you want to shoot a lot with old manual focus lenses (Ai, Ais), go for D300s.
- If you want lightweight, go for D90.
- If you shoot a lot of fast action, sports, or flying birds, go for D300s.
- If you are more of a casual shooter, with a few modern current day lenses, go for D90.

Do not make a buying decision on the two models based on image quality. Because image quality are almost identical. D300s's output is more tuned to the professional, whom are expected to do more PP. D90's output is sharper, with more NR, which is tuned more to the consumer, whom are more likely to just use the pictures out-of-cam. But if you do a lot of PP, you will realize that the output from D300s will be easier to work with, giving you more options. But really, the differences are really really very slight.

Just ask yourself, do you really need the additional features D300s offers?

And always remember the weight of the D300s is no joke. Hold it long enough in a model/wedding shoot and you may find your arms aching and your hands shaky.

D300s is bigger and better. But question to ask yourself, do you need all those bells and whistles? Are you even going to use those features?

HTH.
 

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TS, since most of the bros here have given their opinions, especially bro daredevil with his full on explanation which i think is more than enough for u to comprehend.(think bro dd is in a good mood.;p)

is all up to you, going for a D90 which till date is a good camera, using the extra cash for lenses and other accs and whats not. Or getting a D300s with all the extra nook and crannies which may result in a steep learning curve for you. given u have little basic knowledge(im assuming)

in my opinion go for the D90, and use the leftover cash for good lenses.

in time, u cld always upgrade to a better body,:)

cheers, my humble 2cents.
 

TS, since most of the bros here have given their opinions, especially bro daredevil with his full on explanation which i think is more than enough for u to comprehend.(think bro dd is in a good mood.;p)

is all up to you, going for a D90 which till date is a good camera, using the extra cash for lenses and other accs and whats not. Or getting a D300s with all the extra nook and crannies which may result in a steep learning curve for you. given u have little basic knowledge(im assuming)

in my opinion go for the D90, and use the leftover cash for good lenses.

in time, u cld always upgrade to a better body,:)

cheers, my humble 2cents.

:thumbsup: +1

I feel better lenses will make a much much bigger impact than bodies, especially when these 2 models produce almost identical image quality.

So if you were to give me either a D80 + 17-55mm or D300s + 18-105VR, I will take the D80+17-55 every time.

You are right. I am in a good mood. :bsmilie:
 

You are right. I am in a good mood. :bsmilie:

lucky me....

i learn it the hard way, its pay to have better lenses than fixated on getting newer bodies, but im sure u wouldnt mind a D3S... hehehehhe:bigeyes:
 

Go for D90 for starters and get good lenses for the body.
 

lucky me....

i learn it the hard way, its pay to have better lenses than fixated on getting newer bodies, but im sure u wouldnt mind a D3S... hehehehhe:bigeyes:

If it is free, hell yea!

And ISO6400 noise that look like noise at ISO800 in D300s. I'm all in! (if it is free of course).
 

lucky me....

i learn it the hard way, its pay to have better lenses than fixated on getting newer bodies, but im sure u wouldnt mind a D3S... hehehehhe:bigeyes:

Also... better lenses do not always mean more expensive.

Look at the old Ai/Ais lenses. Rock solid IQ, but yet so cheap...
 

listen to DD. hes making alot of sense. Buy the D90, and with the left over cash, grab a solid tripod, a bag, and maybe a flash or a lens and it'll keep you happy for quite awhile. :D
 

listen to DD. hes making alot of sense. Buy the D90, and with the left over cash, grab a solid tripod, a bag, and maybe a flash or a lens and it'll keep you happy for quite awhile. :D

Thanks for the vote of confidence. But I really hope anyone will check up on the comments any people posted in response. You never know who are saying the right things. Better to double check every statement (even mine), and form your own opinions about your own needs and make your own decisions. That is the best way.
 

Yes, listen to the :devil:'s advice. I've played with both D90 & D300s & each stands on it's own worth.

IMHO any cam is worth buying so long as you use it constantly. Heck I shot 10k shutter within 3 mths of buying my D90:bigeyes: A cam is only worth if you sqeeze 100,000 shutters out of it in 2 yrs and not play 200 shutter in 5 yrs then even a P&S is not worth it.
 

I don't know if the D90 will be replaced soon... if that happens you can consider the new model, or buy a cheaper secondhand D90.
But I would say D90 if you are starting out... D300's heavy but that also means easier to hold steady at slow shutter speeds.
 

I don't know if the D90 will be replaced soon... if that happens you can consider the new model, or buy a cheaper secondhand D90.
But I would say D90 if you are starting out... D300's heavy but that also means easier to hold steady at slow shutter speeds.

Actually I believe current D90 pricings have already accounted for the impending release of the replacement.
 

i think the ts doesnt know what hes dealing with hehe.. so quiet... if u wan good price check out with bro dd hehe
 

i think the ts doesnt know what hes dealing with hehe.. so quiet... if u wan good price check out with bro dd hehe

Ehh... I don't sell cameras for a living leh.
 

My personal recommendation is, if you're going with lots of AI or AIS lenses (manual lenses from the film days), go for D300s. Otherwise, most people are very happy with the D90.
 

for me i'm using the D60, thinking of upgrading to D90 or D300s. still hesitating but i think i'll wait for the D90 replacement, probably end of this year or 1st quarter of next year.
 

u can grab the d90 for cheap once the new model is out? or u can just grab it now and be satisfied with the awesome performance it provides.
 

for me i'm using the D60, thinking of upgrading to D90 or D300s. still hesitating but i think i'll wait for the D90 replacement, probably end of this year or 1st quarter of next year.
unless you think there's something the new model will have that the D90 lacks...
otherwise the D90 is an awesome camera, whether before or after the replacement model is released...
 

It seems many people here do not have a clear understanding of the differences between the 2 cameras.

Having used both the D90 and D300s, let me set the record straight one more time.

Image quality comparison
D90 and D300s uses the same sensor. Image quality is almost the same. ISO performance is almost the same. D90 seems better but it is because it is a consumer model and tuned to have a slightly stronger NR. D300s is more of a professional model and it is tuned to retain more details. Yes this is true even at the RAW files level.


What D300s has that D90 doesn't
- D300s has ability to meter with Ai Ais lenses. You can use center weighted or stop metering by default. If you enter the info into "non-cpu lens info" you will be able to use Color matrix metering.
- Some sort of weather sealing
- 7 FPS (slightly over 6FPS in real life). Can boost up to 8 FPS with grip and using D3's battery.)
- Mirror up shooting mode to reduce even more vibrations. Quiet shooting mode. Fast Continuous and Slow Continuous shooting mode.
- Faster and more accurate AF.
- Bigger magnesium alloy body.
- You can store sets of settings in D300s, calling them up at will
- Many more buttons for faster access
- Built in interval timer
- 100% viewfinder
- Dual memory card slots (CF and SDHC)
- 51 AF points (configurable to 11 or 9)
- A lot more info and options in Image review mode. When reviewing images, automatic face detection for checking focus on faces, RGB histograms, active focus point indication.. etc..

Downsides of D300s
- Significantly heavier
- Cannot use cheap wireless IR remote for D90. D300s requires you use the remote port located on the front of the body. More troublesome and remotes are more expensive.
- Camera is a lot more expensive.
- D300s' battery grip is a lot more expensive.
- D300s loses all the scene modes from the D90. If you choose D300s, you're on your own.

Should you get D90 or D300s (IMHO)

- If you do not shoot in extreme conditions (extreme cold, wet, jungle, snow, rain), go for D90.
- If you want to shoot a lot with old manual focus lenses (Ai, Ais), go for D300s.
- If you want lightweight, go for D90.
- If you shoot a lot of fast action, sports, or flying birds, go for D300s.
- If you are more of a casual shooter, with a few modern current day lenses, go for D90.

Do not make a buying decision on the two models based on image quality. Because image quality are almost identical. D300s's output is more tuned to the professional, whom are expected to do more PP. D90's output is sharper, with more NR, which is tuned more to the consumer, whom are more likely to just use the pictures out-of-cam. But if you do a lot of PP, you will realize that the output from D300s will be easier to work with, giving you more options. But really, the differences are really really very slight.

Just ask yourself, do you really need the additional features D300s offers?

And always remember the weight of the D300s is no joke. Hold it long enough in a model/wedding shoot and you may find your arms aching and your hands shaky.

D300s is bigger and better. But question to ask yourself, do you need all those bells and whistles? Are you even going to use those features?

HTH.

:thumbsup: I am going to bookmark this and the next person to ask this...

"GO READ WHAT DD123 WROTE!... :angry: "
 

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