stormancer
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I think wad we need to know in order to judge e camera is some ISO pics....
Canon 60D: Homerun or Disappointment?
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blurboiboi
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IQ should not differ by much from the 550D and 7D... same sensor, ya?
wilddreamer
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lucky that i dont wait for this rubbish.... i bought 7D 2 weeks ago and i dont regret it every single day. COME ON CANON!!!! wake up!!!
nottipiglet
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There you go... that's why Canon is successful. Canon is wide awake. They would rather you buy the 7D. They are not trying to cannibalize on the 7D sales. In fact, I think they deliberately lowered the specs so that equipment collectors who want high specs would buy the 7D.
The primary target would be to wrestle sales from Nikon's Dxx series. If you regret buying 7D after the 60D is launched, Canon would have failed in their marketing strategy.
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renzokuken
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i might be asking for too much,
but i was hopping for an auto focused video mode
or maybe digic 5
now i just hope that its ISO capability is significantly better than 550D
agree with you
i think canon has changed it's marketing strategy
thanks for pointing these out
though i find it weird that now 60D has a few features which some CSers used to name them as being "gimmicks"
and since they decided to have these "gimmicks" they should also come up with something that rivals Sony's in-cam auto HDR
well that's what i feel
but i was hopping for an auto focused video mode
or maybe digic 5
now i just hope that its ISO capability is significantly better than 550D
Selling in favour of upgrading to 7D not 60D, 50D to 60D is it an upgrade?? subjective. Definitely a better choice than selling 50D to downgrade to a 550D, as 550D is an entry level and 50D is a semi-pro. Though it is usual that the newer camera to get better spec than the older one, like the 19 focus points of 7D to that of 5D2 but is does not mean selling 5D2 for 7D is an upgrade or 5D2 cannot be considered an upgrade for older 1D MKIII.
I think most of the specs upgrade are quite predictable and expected, such as 18mp, iso 6400, etc.
I am actually excited over some of the good features, such as articulating LCD, the lock on the dial like K-7, the sexy curve, uses LP-E6 battery (that mean another new battery grip) and mostly the new all-in-one multi-controller lot easier now.
However, I am quite disappointed that xxD has now been downgraded to D90 replacement competition, instead of the previous D300 competition with 50D. I heard the D90 replacement is going to be magnesium alloy now ... ha ha .. what an irony.
Frankly the 60D spec seems to has shifted downward (not referring to the upgraded specs as it is typical of refresh for newer model to have the latest specs, like 500D vs 550D),e.g.
1. 50D used to have 2 custom mode C1 and C2, newer 7D and 5D2 has three C1, C2 and C3, new 60D is down to the same as 550D one just "C".
2. Continuous shooting 5.3 fps vs 50D 6.5 fps. Well this is something not many users used but it go to demonstrate the positioning of this product now more of a serious amateur vs a semi-pro camera.
3. CF flash which is shared format amount the semi-pro and pro body like 1D, 5D and 7D, old 50D. 60D is SD card now.
4. Plastic body instead of 50D magnesium alloy body
I guess we need to wait and see, but well the good news maybe my 50D value probably will not drop much further or too badly now.
agree with you
i think canon has changed it's marketing strategy
thanks for pointing these out
good argument
though i find it weird that now 60D has a few features which some CSers used to name them as being "gimmicks"
miniature effect... i thought they only used to be only in PNS
and since they decided to have these "gimmicks" they should also come up with something that rivals Sony's in-cam auto HDR
well that's what i feel
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night86mare
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well, whatever sells.
color is a gimmick, so is adding useless features, pixie dusting it with "additions" that aren't real upgrades.
at the end of the day, at least certain brands still offer better value and give consumers what they really want/need, instead of using slick marketing party tricks to manipulate cows and sheep into doing what they want.
flipfreak
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Yea LOL, u just said the past 2 years. Have u check out d3100
i did. 1080p after 2 years. whew! :sweat:
although its only 24fps and the 550d is doing 1920 x 1080 @ 30/25/24 fps and 1280 x 720 @ 60/50 fps ... :sweat:
night86mare
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i would much prefer the brands (all of them) to concentrate R&D on far more important things that photographers should actually care about.
not things like "wow, look guys, let me show you what my camera can do, it's not JUST a camera!"
saying that everyone is doing it, so we should follow, is like saying that if a lot of xmm paste hello kitty sticker on your forehead, you would encourage your partner to do so.
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flipfreak
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well, whatever sells.
color is a gimmick, so is adding useless features, pixie dusting it with "additions" that aren't real upgrades.
at the end of the day, at least certain brands still offer better value and give consumers what they really want/need, instead of using slick marketing party tricks to manipulate cows and sheep into doing what they want.
exactly. whatever sells.
value is perceived. no? :bsmilie:
night86mare
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exactly. whatever sells.
value is perceived. no? :bsmilie:
so your value is perceived in needless megapixels, bending lcd panels, and video implementation on a photographic tool?
ok, understand, cool value system, have a nice day. :bsmilie:
flipfreak
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haha. its not mine but there are people who valued it.
don't be too quick to pass judgement on them. u might to eat those words soon. lol.
nitewalk
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Actually its is such that they deliberately push a lower specs cam to lure those torn between getting a 50/60D and 7D. Ultimately its about the target group of this camera. However the tactic of reducing performance of a product for marketing purposes is not something new i heard.
renzokuken
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denniskee
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finally, canon dslr with swivel screen. what i have been waiting for.
af pts? only use center af pt 99.9% of the time. the rest makes no diff to me.
MP count? too big liao, wish they keep it to 10MP like 40D.
poly-carb casing, no problem, my canon d60 went to my torture still survived many yrs, so ya, no issue with that too.
was hoping they have lower iso like 50 & 25, highest i normally use is only 1600, which it has.
toy? only if user wants to it be / depends on their skill. i wonder how many here has single / 2 digit body that takes photo that others are willing to pay for. but i do know of quite afew using the so call "toy" dslr but customers are willing to pay for the images.
af pts? only use center af pt 99.9% of the time. the rest makes no diff to me.
MP count? too big liao, wish they keep it to 10MP like 40D.
poly-carb casing, no problem, my canon d60 went to my torture still survived many yrs, so ya, no issue with that too.
was hoping they have lower iso like 50 & 25, highest i normally use is only 1600, which it has.
toy? only if user wants to it be / depends on their skill. i wonder how many here has single / 2 digit body that takes photo that others are willing to pay for. but i do know of quite afew using the so call "toy" dslr but customers are willing to pay for the images.
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Purance
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just get the 7d, 60d is a waste of materials seriously unless for starters...................................................................:angry:
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