Canon 18-200mm F3.5-5.6 IS
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ahh just when i was planning a bit decided bet 17-85 and 17 -55now this nice shots on a 18-200 .. confused again
nice shots man
All his shots were taken with flash on.
ohh
18-200 mm plus 580 ex, or 17-55 2.8 IS.. should be more or less the same price ahaha
You could try it at Adelphi B1. There's another one if I'm not wrong.
PM me if you've any questions.
18-55 IS + 55-250 IS is probably cheaper than the 18-200 and better picture quality too. Just that it is not as convenient, but the combo offers better reach.
ohh
18-200 mm plus 580 ex, or 17-55 2.8 IS.. should be more or less the same price ahaha
Anson
Senior Member
True that a 18-55 + 55-250IS would be cheaper & have a extra reach... but personally I don't believe that IQ is better than the Canon 18-200mm IS... :think:
To me the 18-200 is very useful when taking stage event shooting, where you have no time to change your lens.... It is either this lens or I use a second body.... :bsmilie:
On the field.. can't comment bcoz I don't have the 18-200mm.
My comment is based on some reviews for these lens. Of coz, YMMV for the significance of these test results.
In general, resolution for these 2 lens falls into the "very good" region, most, if not all the time.
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/411-canon_55250_456is_50d?start=1
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/404-canon_1855_3556is_50d?start=1
Whereas the resolution for the 18-200 frequently fall into the "good" or "fair" region.
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/400-canon_18200_3556is?start=1
Of coz the convenient offered by the 18-200 is unbeatable by the 2 lens combo.
My comment is based on some reviews for these lens. Of coz, YMMV for the significance of these test results.
In general, resolution for these 2 lens falls into the "very good" region, most, if not all the time.
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/411-canon_55250_456is_50d?start=1
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/404-canon_1855_3556is_50d?start=1
Whereas the resolution for the 18-200 frequently fall into the "good" or "fair" region.
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/400-canon_18200_3556is?start=1
Of coz the convenient offered by the 18-200 is unbeatable by the 2 lens combo.
Anson
Senior Member
Thanks for the links for the lens review. For me I am more into my personal hands-on and field test experience.
Contrast to you I have not own the 18-55mm & 55-250mm IS kit lens before. But I did some hands-on test during the recent IT show 2009. Generally I find that the IQ from these lens is similar to those found in my 18-200mm (all three lens are not L or Prime lens quality).
What make me choose my 18-200mm instead of the dual kits lens is as follows:
- Better built quality(subjective)
- Shorter min focus distance in telephoto range compared to the 55-250mm
- Non-rotating front element (good for CPL & GND)
- "Rotation" Speed (it is faster to turn your zoom ring then to switch the body/lens)
- Less haste (don't need to carry extra lens or body during event shooting)
- Only need to purchase 1 set of hood & lens (UV, CPL, etc)
There is a statement from dpreview with regards to the three lens:
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/canon_18-200_3p5-5p6_is_c16/page4.asp
freezy1977
New Member
18-200 is definitely more convenient..
the cost of the lens though more expensive than the 18-55 and 55-250 combo... but the cost of not losing a critical moment of shot (due to changing lens) is PRICELESS
18-200 is somehow better in built quality
the cost of the lens though more expensive than the 18-55 and 55-250 combo... but the cost of not losing a critical moment of shot (due to changing lens) is PRICELESS
18-200 is somehow better in built quality
NovJoe
Senior Member
I personally is pretty new DSLR and I just got myself a 450D with 18-200mm EFS and find it really convenient.
Take for example, I was at SBG last Sunday to take photos but met with a heavy downpour. Though the weather, I wasn't worried at all as I have no need to change lens for any shots. The PQ of the shots produced was pretty decent IMO.
I don't have the 18-55mm & the 55-250mm lens as well so I will not comment on the PQ difference between the 3 lenses.
Personally, I feel that one must be comfortable with the kit he/she brought along for shooting and results will be good to the owner. No point getting something that is always according to reviews. I only trust what I see from the actual thing, especially for a newbie on budget like me where I need to be calculative on the kit I'm buying to grow with.
My 2 cents here.
Take for example, I was at SBG last Sunday to take photos but met with a heavy downpour. Though the weather, I wasn't worried at all as I have no need to change lens for any shots. The PQ of the shots produced was pretty decent IMO.
I don't have the 18-55mm & the 55-250mm lens as well so I will not comment on the PQ difference between the 3 lenses.
Personally, I feel that one must be comfortable with the kit he/she brought along for shooting and results will be good to the owner. No point getting something that is always according to reviews. I only trust what I see from the actual thing, especially for a newbie on budget like me where I need to be calculative on the kit I'm buying to grow with.
My 2 cents here.
well.. I did mentioned that the convenience is unbeatable.. However, the "need" for the superzoom can be quite subjective also. Personally, for outdoors, I seldom use the 18-55, and for indoors, I seldom use the 55-250, so the combo seems like a practical choice. If I would to choose between the 2, I would still probably get the combo, for anything else, it is still cheaper, at 60-70% of the cost, and any advantage in PQ(if any) is just an added bonus. Well, it's just personal opinion.
The reviews is simply a reference guide for pple planning to buy lens. If a person have never used the combo as well as the 18-200 before, the difference is PQ will almost never be discovered. Whether the PQ is more important or the convenience, that will be up to the individual to decide. And if the PQ is utmost important, and with a lower price tag, then the reviews might come in useful as a reference as it is not always possible for the consumer to do a detailed test at the shops.
Most owners seems to convinced themselves that the 18-200 produces as good PQ as the combo. Well, that's up to the individual.. The differences may not be worlds apart, althou the fact is there is a difference (assuming the review is accurate). If one feels that convenience and capturing the moment is most critical, that is all fair. No one would challenge the convenience and the benefit of the superzoom.. that'll be a demand for it, that's why its on the market..
That'll be pple who finds no need to get an L lens for e.g., because they are happy with the PQ of the kit lens. And there will be pple who is willing to pay for better PQ or trade convenience for better PQ.
I post the comments just to provide some information so that buyers can make an informed choice.. that's it.
The reviews is simply a reference guide for pple planning to buy lens. If a person have never used the combo as well as the 18-200 before, the difference is PQ will almost never be discovered. Whether the PQ is more important or the convenience, that will be up to the individual to decide. And if the PQ is utmost important, and with a lower price tag, then the reviews might come in useful as a reference as it is not always possible for the consumer to do a detailed test at the shops.
Most owners seems to convinced themselves that the 18-200 produces as good PQ as the combo. Well, that's up to the individual.. The differences may not be worlds apart, althou the fact is there is a difference (assuming the review is accurate). If one feels that convenience and capturing the moment is most critical, that is all fair. No one would challenge the convenience and the benefit of the superzoom.. that'll be a demand for it, that's why its on the market..
That'll be pple who finds no need to get an L lens for e.g., because they are happy with the PQ of the kit lens. And there will be pple who is willing to pay for better PQ or trade convenience for better PQ.
I post the comments just to provide some information so that buyers can make an informed choice.. that's it.
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Thanks for the link.. any additional info for buyers is always welcomed isn't it
By the way.. did noticed that the site awarded "Recommended (with reservations)" for the 18-200 and "Recommended" for the 18-55..
Well.. its always subjective, depending on individual preference. In most case the difference in PQ isn't critical for discoverable to most newbies anyway.. maybe..
By the way.. did noticed that the site awarded "Recommended (with reservations)" for the 18-200 and "Recommended" for the 18-55..
Well.. its always subjective, depending on individual preference. In most case the difference in PQ isn't critical for discoverable to most newbies anyway.. maybe..
convenient rulez ... :thumbsup:
last time i always bring 17-85mm & 70-200mm f2.8 out for travel ...
but after i getting this 18-200mm ... my shooting style change ...
i won't said it provide good resolution ... sometime also hit and miss ... :embrass:
but it does let me shoot something that i usually miss ....
coz need to swap lens ... and also scare dust on sensor after lens change ...
85mm is too short for some shot ... after change lens ... the subject gone ... :cry:
unless i'm know what i going to shoot on trips ...
i dun think anyone would like to lugging this big 70-200mm out for whole day ...
so i think this lens is good for walkaround lens ... :thumbsup:
last time i always bring 17-85mm & 70-200mm f2.8 out for travel ...
but after i getting this 18-200mm ... my shooting style change ...
i won't said it provide good resolution ... sometime also hit and miss ... :embrass:
but it does let me shoot something that i usually miss ....
coz need to swap lens ... and also scare dust on sensor after lens change ...
85mm is too short for some shot ... after change lens ... the subject gone ... :cry:
unless i'm know what i going to shoot on trips ...
i dun think anyone would like to lugging this big 70-200mm out for whole day ...
so i think this lens is good for walkaround lens ... :thumbsup:
Guess you're right.. for trips and walk around the 18-200 is probably a better choice.
NovJoe
Senior Member
well.. I did mentioned that the convenience is unbeatable.. However, the "need" for the superzoom can be quite subjective also. Personally, for outdoors, I seldom use the 18-55, and for indoors, I seldom use the 55-250, so the combo seems like a practical choice. If I would to choose between the 2, I would still probably get the combo, for anything else, it is still cheaper, at 60-70% of the cost, and any advantage in PQ(if any) is just an added bonus. Well, it's just personal opinion.
The reviews is simply a reference guide for pple planning to buy lens. If a person have never used the combo as well as the 18-200 before, the difference is PQ will almost never be discovered. Whether the PQ is more important or the convenience, that will be up to the individual to decide. And if the PQ is utmost important, and with a lower price tag, then the reviews might come in useful as a reference as it is not always possible for the consumer to do a detailed test at the shops.
Most owners seems to convinced themselves that the 18-200 produces as good PQ as the combo. Well, that's up to the individual.. The differences may not be worlds apart, althou the fact is there is a difference (assuming the review is accurate). If one feels that convenience and capturing the moment is most critical, that is all fair. No one would challenge the convenience and the benefit of the superzoom.. that'll be a demand for it, that's why its on the market..
That'll be pple who finds no need to get an L lens for e.g., because they are happy with the PQ of the kit lens. And there will be pple who is willing to pay for better PQ or trade convenience for better PQ.
I post the comments just to provide some information so that buyers can make an informed choice.. that's it.
I read reviews as well but not strictly following it. Probably because I know some reviews can be bought in a way to promote a certain hardware (Probably due to my IT industry not sure about Photography).
However, what you said is true as well. Some of my friends do invest alot in Prime Lens and L Lens, where some of them are happy with just kit lens, and some trust alot on good body. For a newbie like me, I always get mixed reviews due to different information received which are too "chim" for me to understand, so in the end, I do my own research plus the info I get, and ended up with what I have.
Reading gains knowlegde, practical learning gain exprience be it hits or misses
.NovJoe.
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Anson
Senior Member
Frankly speaking the price I paid for my 450D + Kit 2 (18-200mm IS) is much lower than the SRP of the 450D + Dual Kit lens. Hence for me with a lower price tag, added convenience factor & similar IQ(subjective), make me choose the 18-200mm IS lens over the dual kit option.:bsmilie:
If the comparison is between the 18-200 and the combo that we're talking about, then either you got a bargain or those who bought the combo kit got a rip off..
coz the selling price of the 18-55 plus 55-250 is about 300+400, or 700. The 18-200 is selling around 1k I guess.
If the 18-200 is selling cheaper than the combo, then it's pretty much easy to decide, since the extra reach of the combo is negligible, the convenience is probably worth the trade off in PQ and the build of the 18-200 is better. The cheaper 18-200, in this case, would be a better buy.. for most pple.
coz the selling price of the 18-55 plus 55-250 is about 300+400, or 700. The 18-200 is selling around 1k I guess.
If the 18-200 is selling cheaper than the combo, then it's pretty much easy to decide, since the extra reach of the combo is negligible, the convenience is probably worth the trade off in PQ and the build of the 18-200 is better. The cheaper 18-200, in this case, would be a better buy.. for most pple.
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Nice shot! And certainly a very very hot model you have shot (Bottom model)
The Shots were taken handheld using Canon 18-200mm F3.5-5.6 IS:
Constructive criticisms & comments are welcomed...
Anson
Senior Member
Thanks... I was quite fortunate that despite the pouring crowds that day, the gals make the extra effort to making the same pose for my Lens test... :thumbsup:
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