Banned for no reason...

[g-mat]

Hi Admins/Mods,

Yesterday when I tried to log into CS using my original handle (Vince), I was asked to change my password. After I did as asked, I was banned and my account deleted for no reason. :cry:

Upon checking the reason for ban, it stated:

No reason.

My I know what if any the reason was for my banned status? I've been a member since 2002 and would like to keep my original account.

Thanks!

With regards,

Vincent

 

[Darren]

Hi Vincent,

We are looking into this and will revert to you shortly.

Regards,
Darren.

 

[night86mare]

ah, there you are vince, was wondering where you went.

i was wondering why too, your last few posts also not inflammatory what

 

[bakuteh]

Hi Admins/Mods,

Yesterday when I tried to log into CS using my original handle (Vince), I was asked to change my password. After I did as asked, I was banned and my account deleted for no reason. :cry:

Upon checking the reason for ban, it stated:

No reason.

My I know what if any the reason was for my banned status? I've been a member since 2002 and would like to keep my original account.

Thanks!

With regards,

Vincent

You cannot have two IDs registered under the same IP. The CS system detects clones and bans you immediately. Let's say you and your wife are using the same PC. It accepts only one. If your wife registers and submits her new application, both will get banned.

 

[ahbian]

You cannot have two IDs registered under the same IP. The CS system detects clones and bans you immediately. Let's say you and your wife are using the same PC. It accepts only one. If your wife registers and submits her new application, both will get banned.

If I did not misinterprete, I think he was banned before he created the new account?

 

[AhKeong83]

So if I registered my account in office and another colleague oso registered, both of us will get banned?

 

[Nature88]

You cannot have two IDs registered under the same IP. The CS system detects clones and bans you immediately. Let's say you and your wife are using the same PC. It accepts only one. If your wife registers and submits her new application, both will get banned.

I beg to differ. Because Singapore IP addresses are dynamic. Hence sometimes you and your neighbour might share the same IP address, but not simultaneously. If you and your neighbour do have CS account, wouldnt that 2 person account tio banned?

I think might be of some error within server. Retrieving the account should be not prob. But the contents inside the account maybe gone. :x

Please do correct me if what I mentioned are not accurate.

 

[mummum]

If the person is using a 'home router' for sharing the broadband, he/she is most likely to be behind a NAT network, thus, the IP that is facing the Internet is still one IP

 

[Nature88]

If the person is using a 'home router' for sharing the broadband, he/she is most likely to be behind a NAT network, thus, the IP that is facing the Internet is still one IP

Well. Do agree with you. Because home router gives dynamic IP to the home user(s). Then when info packets are passed back to the home router, it repack the info packet and send out as a IP it obtained from the ISP.

But what I meant was like if neighbour A and neighbour B are from the same ISP. Sometimes switching off and on multiple times in a day, they might get each others IP address as Singapore IP are sub sub net I suppose. So if neighbour A and B got CS account, wouldnt both their account be banned cause of same IP origins of same sub sub net?

If thats the case.....*fingers crossed*hopefully no one in my neighbourhood uses CS. :bsmilie:

 

[Simon]

There are no need for Speculations.

We have message the Moderator who have impose the Ban and will investigate the above issue.

 

[Long Thai Bean]

well if it is of any indication ... maybe you would like to look at these threads .... a fair nmber of people were de-reg from these threads .....

http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530005
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530015
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530035
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530097

 

[sinned79]

Hi Admins/Mods,

Yesterday when I tried to log into CS using my original handle (Vince), I was asked to change my password. After I did as asked, I was banned and my account deleted for no reason. :cry:

Upon checking the reason for ban, it stated:

No reason.

My I know what if any the reason was for my banned status? I've been a member since 2002 and would like to keep my original account.

Thanks!

With regards,

Vincent

Whatever the reasons were, just move on.

I am deregistered too (i am proud to say, i am localhost). And i was accused of targetting Ortega but look, i am a member since 2002 too, way before he join. And if u look at my past posts, there is a period of inactivity from me cos i stopped photography almost totally and after getting my first DSLR this interest rekindled and i am back to active mode. And also from my past post, i never really did step my toes on this mod until came this poor litttle girl who needs help, and somehow me and this moderator got into quite a heated arguement (i admit i may have gone overboard, perhaps also due to my over enthusiasm to find ways to help this little gal) when we had discussions that we cannot see eye to eye with each other, the only differences is one is mod the other is just a member, so i am at the losing end cos he can simply close the thread and shift the blame to me for causing the thread to be closed.

Anyway i can't be bothered and even till now i had nothing against this mod. I rather focus my energy now into my rekindled hobby.

Join date and post counts is nothing to me. :bsmilie:

 

[g-mat]

Hi,

Thanks to Admins (Darren & Simon) for assisting in the investigations.

Bakuteh:

No, I have not and did not create any new accounts before my original was deleted although I did attempt to create a new account with the same email address as the original and was further banned for cloning.

Night86mare:

Yeah...I have been in-camp training with some overseas troops and will end this week so I'm kinda internet-less for a while until I got a nights' out. haha =)

Sinned79:

It's not so much the thread count as the hassle of having to re-introduce to everyone myself as myself again. I also like my original nickname as it's my name
I don't believe that I was deregistered/banned due to some trivial post. It's probably a mistake or some error that it happened.
I've been involved in heated discussions before but it's never gotten that emotional (to a point where an account gets deleted out of spite).

 

[Darren]

We have looked into the matter and the deregistrations were wholly based on the past infractions and warnings by the Moderators which we did not follow up until now due to our schedules.

The deregistration of the previous accounts stands, and you are welcome to participate with your new account and to be mindful of the guidelines upon which we operate.

Thank you.

 

[HeiPiGu]

Interesting....delayed de-registration.

 

[wildcat]

I am reading these incidents with an open mind, but it seems like there are some people with closed minds. Maybe it would be useful to Darren to state the infractions incurred. Otherwise, this reminds me of China where ... okay let's leave that point out.

Who watches the Watchmen? People have a right to disagree, but to be banned because of disagreement with a moderator, well frankly I think one could argue there may a case for abuse of power. Anyone who thinks he is the law, is in fact going above the law. If voicing out our opinions in a public forum is not allowed because one moderator disagree with it's content, then maybe it's not a public forum afterall. Wasn't it Voltaire who said "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it". If a moderator cannot handle the heat, maybe someone else can do a better job. If a moderator cannot spare the time, maybe someone else can.

The only links I can see which supposedly incriminates against g-mat appears to be those posted by Long Thai Bean. It leaves the rest of us who may not have the full picture, trying to figure out what did g-mat (and localhost?) really do to deserve a ban on his ID because otherwise, in my opinion, those posts just indicate an inability of the person(s) in charge to handle things in a fair and able manner (cannot handle? just close thread, ban person - who cannot do?).

That's why I think it would be useful for Darren to state the infractions incurred and justify the ban to restore our faith in the system.

 

[g-mat]

We have looked into the matter and the deregistrations were wholly based on the past infractions and warnings by the Moderators which we did not follow up until now due to our schedules.

The deregistration of the previous accounts stands, and you are welcome to participate with your new account and to be mindful of the guidelines upon which we operate.

Thank you.

Hi Darren,

I'm sorry but the only warning for infraction that I remember receiving was one which I posted something in the wrong sub-forum. Other than that, I haven't been served any infractions or warnings prior to the de-registration of my previous account.

Edit: Other than the supposed infraction (which I didn't receive any warnings of via pte messaging), I received another infraction which just says "Instant Deregistration".

Does that justify the deletion of my account? Simply by posting in the incorrect sub-forum?

Thanks for clarifying.

With regards,

Vincent

 

[g-mat]

This is the contents of the private message which I received:

"Dear vince,

You have received an infraction at ClubSNAP Photography Forums.

Reason: Instant Deregistration Violation
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This infraction is worth 100 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

ClubSNAP Photography Forums"

 

[nirenj]

Why is this getting too personal????

Can we all get on together as brothers and sisters, without any fights.

 

[Nature88]

Wildcat, I do agree with you.

I was just simply trying to explain to others how IP address in Singapore works. Although not related to photography, at least let them understand that chances if IP clone account are not allowed are rare as IP address are limited in Singapore. Forum is to share and explain things isnt it?

Then later was asked not to speculate anymore. :thumbsd:

I have to say moderators are humans too. But they cant simply let their mood of the day or personal feelings affect the decision acted on the forum as a admin/moderator. They should not simply kill the conversation by asking people not to think of what are the thing(s) went wrong as they didnt deny the IP prob as well. They could have given a reason on their action(s) so as to improve the transparency of their actions/decision, as some (for instance like me) have really no idea that g-mat do have a heated "argument" with one of the admin/moderator before.