About K-x

[night86mare]

Im not here to flame pentax or anything..I do agree colours and AF speed all all pretty impressive. Im just saying build quality and motor quality of focusing mechanism really leaves much to desire.. when compared to the other brand's entry cameras..

sorry, as far as i'm concerned, the sound a focusing mechanism makes has nothing to do with its build quality or motor quality, don't you think?

if you say it has a noisy focusing mechanism, that's a fair statement, and something to be noted, that's fair enough, and i can accept that.

 

[zqpeh]

When i was reading up on the Kx before i buy, i remember seeing somewhere that the black is in the regular
DSLR material..but the colour ones, maybe because of its glossy surface, feels very toy like.
Peer closer to the body sealings, especially in the flash area, u ll see what i mean..

 

[darrrrrrrrrr]

funny thing is that it's the silent sdm lenses that have a reportedly high failure rate and dodgy buiild quality and reliability. my fingers are crossed...

 

[eselite]

zqpeh

I guess the k-x or any other entry level dslr doesn't suit you , good luck with your GF-1!

 

[zqpeh]

sorry, as far as i'm concerned, the sound a focusing mechanism makes has nothing to do with its build quality or motor quality, don't you think?

if you say it has a noisy focusing mechanism, that's a fair statement, and something to be noted, that's fair enough, and i can accept that.

Yup, you are right, i was referring to the noisy focusing mechanism. Thanks for correction..

 

[reyreina]

Alright. We get your point on the bad points of K-x compared to GF-1. Let's not make it sound like pentaxians cannot handle bad points their camera may have.

I think THE problem in all equipment threads is reviewers tend not to stress that their POVs are based on individual preferences, or state their preferences. If right from the start you mentioned you are easily annoyed with mirror cranking noises, many people would have recommended switching to non-slr systems

 

[zqpeh]

but i wasn't facing these sound and build issues with D90 and 500D u see?
But really, i was only offering my point of view, and i only traded it for a G1..not GF1.
In any case, let nobody be heated by what i say, as it's merely my own POV,
and carry on shooting. Peace.

 

[hamustar]

Definitely peace here don't worry, there's nothing wrong with trying out different brands, and settling for the one(s) that will suit your style of photography.

At the end of the day must enjoy using the machine you choose, it's the chemistry factor that no reviews seem to talk about. Camera A may be great in reviews, superb noise control, quiet shutter, great battery life. But if it does not feel good in your hands, or you feel ackward with the controls, then you'd feel lousy using it too.

 

[flowerpot]

diff cam serve diff purposes... no right or wrong... i saw the GF1 in action on my own eyes over the weekend... i have to say its very very good.... no wonder its selling like hot cakes...:bsmilie:

no much bigger than the LX3, which i mistakenly thought it was until the owner told me its the GF1...

its abit pricey though, but its that good...

but i would have chosen the K-x since i already got lenses to go with it, else the GF1 certainly has its appeal...

 

[sebianos]

but i wasn't facing these sound and build issues with D90 and 500D u see?
But really, i was only offering my point of view, and i only traded it for a G1..not GF1.
In any case, let nobody be heated by what i say, as it's merely my own POV,
and carry on shooting. Peace.

Hmmm... A D90 and 500D would also costs a lot more than a K-x, wouldn't it? ;p

 

[sebianos]

diff cam serve diff purposes... no right or wrong... i saw the GF1 in action on my own eyes over the weekend... i have to say its very very good.... no wonder its selling like hot cakes...:bsmilie:

no much bigger than the LX3, which i mistakenly thought it was until the owner told me its the GF1...

its abit pricey though, but its that good...

but i would have chosen the K-x since i already got lenses to go with it, else the GF1 certainly has its appeal...

As long as the photographer is happy, ok already. Flowerpot, you like poisoning yourself with GF1. :bsmilie:

 

[sebianos]

If looking for k20d, I would prefer a second hand one. Probably can get at $750-800. Price aside, I would still take a k20d any day as I need some of the pro features and value built quality and handling.

Totally agree with you but i'd better learn the k10d first. Must be patient and wait.... if Pentax has a full-frame camera in the pipeline - it's only a matter of time we can get k-7 for ourselves second hand. :lovegrin:

 

[elavan]

it's difficult to compare any pentax dslrs with others. They like to produce bodies that sit in-between the usual tiers you'd expect from canikon.

canikons produce models neck to neck to target each other (aps-c bodies). Pentax no, they're weird :bsmilie:.

For example k7, it's price point is neither here nor there, as advanced as semi-pros (some areas superceding them) but cheaper than say, 7D or D300S.

it's price is like a lowest-end semi-pro. 50D is probably retiring soon I won't mention it.

k-x is the same, specs are big but built into a cheap body, that's why it's cheap, no need to split hairs.

Comparing it against D90 and 500D is already a compliment to the k-x. We all know to cut cost, some things have to be sacrificed.

This is why to use Pentax you have to be discerning and be very clear what you want.

 

[sebianos]

This is why to use Pentax you have to be discerning and be very clear what you want.

And that is why I chose k10d because I'm weird. Seriously, after playing with it for a few days - i'm more in awe of the quality and functions.

Can't wait to go on a serious photo outing this weekend. There's so many times i can shoot my mattress, lock, and window sill. :bsmilie:

 

[pinholecam]

Hi, just want to feedback about my brief experiences with Kx.

Well i bought the white kx , used it for a day and traded it for a G1...
These are my feedback

- Damn fast autofocusing and very good images output.
- Quite heavy cos of the 4 x AA nimh batts..
- Has to have the loudest shutter click and autofocusing i ever hear in my life.
My wife can hear me focusing and clicking few metres away...imagine that..
(damn bad for candid shooting..)
-built quality is very toy-like..unless u go for the black version.
But that defeats the purpose as everyone loves it for its colours. My point is, go to a pentax dealer,hold it, feel the built, hear the sound of the flash pop up, hear the sound of it focusing( it goes " shee shee shee shee" quite loudly..then click for a shot and hear the flipping of mirror.........and feedback if you are still
as impressed....

Im not here to flame pentax or anything..I do agree colours and AF speed all all pretty impressive. Im just saying build quality and motor quality of focusing mechanism really leaves much to desire.. when compared to the other brand's entry cameras..

You owned D90, 500D, Kx, now GF1 (all recent models that have been out within 1yr)
So what was wrong with D90 and 500D?

Loud shutter click, well... if you can't live with it you can't live with it. Does it warrant any one to tear his/her hair out (or trade in the camera)? Totally that persons choice.
Try out and decide for yourself.
Loud click (subjective) and its adverse effect on candid/street photography is really untrue. A good street photographer blends in, picks his subject before they approach, has everything set (even focus) and simply raises his camera, snaps, and brings the camera down. The subject does not even have time to register (or is not sure) you actually included him/her in the photo. Do need for any stealthy low click sound.

Focusing sound? - same as above. (very subjective). I will wait for the (MTTF) mean time to failure of the SDM; HSM to occur and I'd still be clicking away with my 'whirrly' 'noisy' body driven lenses

Build Quality / Different plastic? - pls don't make a baseless claim. The bodies are fiber reinforced polymer covered exterior with a stainless steel body. If you have any knowledge of products manufacturing you will know that the (polymer) plastic is the same. The color comes from the dye that goes to color the plastic. In other words, black one is not harder than red one and in any case, the actual body underneath is stainless steel.

 

[pinholecam]

On GF1, I had a look and try when I was at MSC.
Nice little camera and rather fast response for an EVF camera.
The only downside is also its size. It makes using DSLR lenses irrelevant since the camera is small, no point making it big with the lens. So in the end GF1 is best with u4/3 lenses and maybe rangefinder lenses.

 

[elavan]

people think black look must be meaning more "solid" lo :bsmilie:

by the way, is the tamron 17-50mm f2.8 a good lens? If one were to search on it, it's a highly popular, affordable, general purpose fast lens, attaining cult status of the consumer zooms.

yet it has one major weakness: the gears are so loud it can wake any sleeping cat, and sleeping kids. :bsmilie:

yet that is not stopping it from becoming so popular. Point is: such things can be overlooked, depends on person..not fated lah, too bad

most silent and deadly is still manual focus, 0db noise. :bsmilie:

 

[Baracus]

most silent and deadly is still manual focus, 0db noise. :bsmilie:

Only noise is the one you make cursing yourself for misfocusing a moving subject. :bsmilie:

 

[elavan]

ya..must practice..like shooting real guns, have to go range and practice moving target..except now, nobody gets hurt..:bsmilie:

with k-7 quiet shutter + manual lenses, you can be the silent assassin, macro a sleeping bird and it wouldn't even realize..;p

 

[addicted]

hi can I add more camera for comparison here? k200d? how it fares again k-x and k20d? (I know it may be at disadvantage against these two but I juz wanna know what's missing in K200d )