8 New Pentax Products Announced: K5II/K5IIs/Q10/560mm/18-270mm/PK-Q Adapter...


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Interesting that they are using the DC motor in the high end lenses (the 560mm) now.

A bit bemused by the new AW (all-weather) line of lenses. I wonder why Pentax wants to have THREE separate designations for weather-proof lenses - WR, DA* & now AW. Its all a bit confusing for consumers & makes you wonder if there is an actual difference in the weather proofing offered by each series of products.

As far as weather proofing is concerned, I think AW > DA* > WR. It's good to see Pentax is continuously improving in this aspect so us users would have better sealed lenses for worse weather condition or environment :)
 

Got less and pay more... :D

I think they need to use some special circuit/chips (thus extra cost) to deal w/ the light when there is no AA filter in place. Just like Nikon's D800 and D800E ($300 more).
 

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Got less and pay more... :D

Try Leica, and tell me comparatively how much lesser and how much more?

Anyways, I would have like to see an update to the Ricoh GXR (may not be their focus anymore).

And for the Pentax stuff, it would have been great if they have come up with a new wide angle, something like a 16-35 f2.8 offering in FF. That would have made my day!

And of course, the compact lens (possibly for the K-01) that we were shown earlier (possibly a 28mm?).
 

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K5II/K5IIs might have improved on that. For other aspects, I'm glad Pentax stick to the same design and body as K5 instead of making a new one.

Wonder what you think about the Fn button thing that changed from K20D (I think) onwards to become hold "ok" for 2 seconds... Like I stated earlier, I always preferred the former. :(

I still am not used to it actually.. It's not as if anyone would look through the VF while changing the settings that would have come with the Fn button anyways (e.g. WB, Timer, etc).
 

the long lens is good for birding. wonder how much is it?

Saw dpreview stated US$7000 for the DA560, quite ex for a lens with only F5.6
The white color is not suitable for birding, hopefully there's a lens coat for it.
 

To those saying that the K5iis is not a substantial upgrade, think again.
Yes, its not as bombastic/chest thumping/ego boosting as seeing more megapixels but if you think over it, its a very good impovement.

For one, just call up a aps-c system that has thumped the K5 till now. (Yes! '0')
So the K5iis brings with it better AF even sharper o/p.
Not to mention potential 1 stop improvement in low light w/o AA filter.
The AF is works up to -3ev, even 5Diii is only -2ev



As Bernard has mentioned a camera w/o AA filter is not something to scoff at.
 

Wonder what you think about the Fn button thing that changed from K20D (I think) onwards to become hold "ok" for 2 seconds... Like I stated earlier, I always preferred the former. :(

I still am not used to it actually.. It's not as if anyone would look through the VF while changing the settings that would have come with the Fn button anyways (e.g. WB, Timer, etc).

Hmm, personally I don't have much problem w/ the buttons on K5. It's just a matter of getting used to. But I guess it'd be better if Pentax provide an option for guys like you to be able to set use some other buttons as the Fn button on K-20...

Oh well, probably you have to live w/ those button configs on K5 from now on :)
 

Saw dpreview stated US$7000 for the DA560, quite ex for a lens with only F5.6
The white color is not suitable for birding, hopefully there's a lens coat for it.

Yeah, a bit on the high side I think :( Thought about getting it so I can go out birding w/ you guys, but now I'd consider the Sigma 500/4.5 even more seriously ...
 

Saw dpreview stated US$7000 for the DA560, quite ex for a lens with only F5.6
The white color is not suitable for birding, hopefully there's a lens coat for it.

Ken
thanks for the feedback. i also feel the white colour is not suitable. Probably have to tape the whole lens with camouflage sticker tape. US$7000 is on the high side. Hopefully over times the price will drop.
 

Since the body almost the same as the existing K5, I wonder if Pentax will offer hardware upgrades. Just like a computer. :P Guess I am still dreaming.
 

K5-IIs may be good.

You've just got to see the images taken without the AA Filter first before passing judgement that it's nothing fantastic. Unless you are nuts about moire, the images are worth the 100 up from the K5-II. Particularly fantastic for Pentaxians who takes landscapes!
nothing fantastic as in it is just incremental changes compared to a classic k5, at least it is nothing fantastic to me.
 

Well, this is probably the very first time that Pentax announced so many new products in one go, I'd say it's a big progress :) Although camera wise (especially for K5 replacement) some might feel there are not much exciting news. But think about it, K5 is already a really good camera, other than some AF problem under certain condition. K5II/K5IIs might have improved on that. For other aspects, I'm glad Pentax stick to the same design and body as K5 instead of making a new one.

From what I know, Pentax might put in more effort on 654D line (higher margin w/ less competition) instead of APSC stuff, which I think it's a smart move. The APSC market is probably too saturated already, we got far too many options. The effort/return rate can't be too high. It's good to just use most of the exiting parts and production lines so to save cost, which will be passed to us consumers.

The bigger movement would be 645D and FF (next year), but don't expect Pentax putting too much effort on FF (cameras and compatible lenses), especially consider C/N already have very affordable FF systems.

Nah dun get me wrong, I am not saying that it is not good just not significantly better than k5, that is all.sort of like from k20d to k7. It is more like a reflection on how goo the k5 is already compare to the new offering..The rest of the stuff like 560mm or the incremental updated q10 are also something that I will very likely not use, so the product launch this time is not fantastic to me.
 

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Hi, was originally thinking of getting the 55-300 to complement my 18-135. But now with the 18-270, should I get this instead and even ditch the 135?
 

I was spoilt with k-30 with its feature set.

I was expecting the buffer would be so big that I could shoot continously for ten days without filling the buffer...
(Jokes aside)
 

The problem these days is customers want to see "NEW" features, or mind-boggling niceties that can be boosted to the general public. But when it comes to fixing the current flaws or not-so perfect features that the system have, it's deemed not interesting. People seem to think that "Oh, why bother", "Plain lazy", "still K5 body" etc.

I like this approach of trying to fix/enhance the current capabilities. I work in Support/Maintenance and sometimes recommendations of making sure the fundamentals are as robust as possible is often ignored, and have to give way to the catch-phrases the market seeks.

But Ricoh (Pentax-Ricoh) always seems wanting to make sure flaws/concerns/usability are addressed. Just look at the number of firmwares they have come up just to enhance or fix their GXR system. Granted, people may say they shouldn't release half-baked products, but I see it as an attempt to make sure Users' voices are heard and worked on.

In K5 Mark 2 and the Mark 2s, I hope they really 'fixed' those issues that made some hardcore Pentaxian move to other brands, and looking at the announcements' materials, they seem like attempting to do just that.

Let's see how it really turns out.
 

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lucky they stick to 16MP... anything more is gonna make data management a nigthmare...hopefully they dun go beyond 18MP in the future...
K-5IIs is a D800E with a smaller sensor.... thought they should just skip the K-5II, price too close, might as well just buy the K-5IIs
 

lucky they stick to 16MP... anything more is gonna make data management a nigthmare...hopefully they dun go beyond 18MP in the future...
K-5IIs is a D800E with a smaller sensor.... thought they should just skip the K-5II, price too close, might as well just buy the K-5IIs

Some people want the AF performance and are scared of moire mah... :bsmilie:

I agree with you... I have a few friends who refuse to upgrade to D800 because of the file size... They say, it's not just paying the money for the upgrade.. Still have to make sure all your computer, storage, etc can handle. :bsmilie:
 

Wonder what you think about the Fn button thing that changed from K20D (I think) onwards to become hold "ok" for 2 seconds... Like I stated earlier, I always preferred the former. :(

I still am not used to it actually.. It's not as if anyone would look through the VF while changing the settings that would have come with the Fn button anyways (e.g. WB, Timer, etc).

the ergornomics of the K20D is by far the best... everything is at the right place...
 

the ergornomics of the K20D is by far the best... everything is at the right place...

I won't disagree with you... Still, I was really fed up with the inability to turn Long Exposure NR off...

If not I think I might still be using K20D.. :) I admit that the K5 also has one up on the K20D in terms of Live View implementation though... The K20D just couldn't boost itself up too much... K5's Live View really makes all the ND filter use so much easier... Just snap it on and recompose with Live View... K20D have to unscrew, look, recompose, then screw back and hope your tripod legs or ballhead never move. :bsmilie: Those were the days!
 

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Some people want the AF performance and are scared of moire mah... :bsmilie:

I agree with you... I have a few friends who refuse to upgrade to D800 because of the file size... They say, it's not just paying the money for the upgrade.. Still have to make sure all your computer, storage, etc can handle. :bsmilie:

well.. i dunno how other ppl manage it... i only using a 12MP cam and the file zise is ~20MB... and i have 1x 2TB, 1 x 3TB and 1 x 500MB ext HDD to manage... and every 2 yrs i need to buy a bigger HDD, do backup all over again to ensure i dun lose anything... a 70MB file would be crazy...
 

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