7D or 5D Mark II?


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would love to hear more from users whom experience in both 5DMK2 and 7D. thanks
 

Now I'm getting impatient with Canon to fix their hyped 7D camera and considering to go FF. And as I've researched, the most probable choice is the Canon 5D Mark II (21MP, high ISO for low light? correct me if I am wrong). I have 450D and I want to upgrade to a camera with a higher ISO. I'm not a pro and just starting to love photography as a hobby. I like shooting landscapes, sometimes portraits and willing to try action/wildlife shots (which I know will be more suitable for cropped bodies). I already have the 24-105, 10-22, 50 mm f1.8 and 580EX II. If I go FF so I think I'll be unloading my 10-22 and will temporarily use my 24-105 in my landscape/travel shots.

Would you think its a great idea to forget 7D and save a little more money and get the 5D Mark II instead? Besides I'm not interested to it's complicated AF points/zones, I usually use only the center pt and just recompose. Will the 24mm of my 24-105 enough for landscape shots? Is the 21MP and high ISO of 5D Mark II really good? I'm planning to sell my 450D and UWA lens (I'm not intending to maintain two cameras) if in case so that I'll just add some more to purchase the FF camera. Your comments will be much appreciated.

Thanks!

i hv a 450D+ 18-200mm took photos with it for few years.. then recently bought 7D then bought the 24-105mm and then 70-200mm f4 IS, then found out that there were lots of AF issues, and pics are soft.., my fren bought a 7D too and unfortunately returned it back twice and finally he gotten himself a 5DMKII.

Thing gotten worst...My 7D was also producing soft pics too. So i returned and paid for a 5DMKII within a week... hence now i'm a happy and a proud owner of this great FF camera.... so do u want to take the risk to go thru this path...or jump straight to 5DMKII... your choice...if you just type "7D AF issues" on any of the search engine online, u will see tons of threads on this problematic 7D... no offence to 7D owners... i been thru it, returned a 7D........maybe i'm the unlucky one who hv gotten a bad 7D...oh...same goes to my fren 2x7D...... and more on the net...every photography forums have all at least 3-4 current threads in their Canon category.
 

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i hv a 450D+ 18-200mm took photos with it for few years.. then recently bought 7D then bought the 24-105mm and then 70-200mm f4 IS, then found out that there were lots of AF issues, and pics are soft.., my fren bought a 7D too and unfortunately returned it back twice and finally he gotten himself a 5DMKII.

Thing gotten worst...My 7D was also producing soft pics too. So i returned and paid for a 5DMKII within a week... hence now i'm a happy and a proud owner of this great FF camera.... so do u want to take the risk to go thru this path...or jump straight to 5DMKII... your choice...if you just type "7D AF issues" on any of the search engine online, u will see tons of threads on this problematic 7D... no offence to 7D owners... i been thru it, returned a 7D........maybe i'm the unlucky one who hv gotten a bad 7D...oh...same goes to my fren 2x7D...... and more on the net...every photography forums have all at least 3-4 current threads in their Canon category.

You mentioned that you returned the 7D??? You mean to say the shop allowed you to return the 7D and let you buy the 5DMKII.
 

Actually I am comtemplating whether to upgrade my current 350D to 7D or 5DMkII now. But from the recent review on the 7D, I have the sense that the camera is not up to the expectation due to the AF issues. To buy a 5DMkII, it will definitely cost me a bomb but I will have a FF camera and better noise management. On 2nd thought, I can save a lot if I buy a 7D. Can use the saved money to buy better lens. So can anyone advise me?
Suffering................................
 

for myself i will choose the 7D over the 5D2.

AF issues will definitely be fixed in the future. like windows xp is **** but SP2 fixed everything.

Why i will choose 7D over the 5D2 is that i need the far superior AF (almost similar to a 1series AF) and wireless commander ability (present in nikon long ago). ISO performance wise. 5D2 is still superior but i (think) can live with using 2500ISO rather than 3200ISO.
 

i have both 5d2 and 7d. trust me, "yi fen qian yi fen huo" - all things considered, the IQ for 5d2 is more superior to 7d.

it really depend on what you need. if u love blowing up the pics to A3 and printing them, get the 5d2. the iQ is absolutely stunning, way above 7d
 

Actually I am comtemplating whether to upgrade my current 350D to 7D or 5DMkII now. But from the recent review on the 7D, I have the sense that the camera is not up to the expectation due to the AF issues. To buy a 5DMkII, it will definitely cost me a bomb but I will have a FF camera and better noise management. On 2nd thought, I can save a lot if I buy a 7D. Can use the saved money to buy better lens. So can anyone advise me?
Suffering................................

If you don't know whether to get a 7D or a 5D2 then you should just stick to your 350D which is also a good camera. If you don't feel a great need for FF then crop cameras will save you alot of money. If you don't need such high MP then the 350D is quite adequate. Spend you money on lenses first.
 

hyped 7D ??

What's wrong? I just got a 7D and there was a customer who complained abt the AF issues that 7D had but all was resolved only after finding out it is the setting issues.

3:16 John also told me that the current issues are resolved by the firmware 1.1.0.

Now I'm getting impatient with Canon to fix their hyped 7D camera and considering to go FF. And as I've researched, the most probable choice is the Canon 5D Mark II (21MP, high ISO for low light? correct me if I am wrong). I have 450D and I want to upgrade to a camera with a higher ISO. I'm not a pro and just starting to love photography as a hobby. I like shooting landscapes, sometimes portraits and willing to try action/wildlife shots (which I know will be more suitable for cropped bodies). I already have the 24-105, 10-22, 50 mm f1.8 and 580EX II. If I go FF so I think I'll be unloading my 10-22 and will temporarily use my 24-105 in my landscape/travel shots.

Would you think its a great idea to forget 7D and save a little more money and get the 5D Mark II instead? Besides I'm not interested to it's complicated AF points/zones, I usually use only the center pt and just recompose. Will the 24mm of my 24-105 enough for landscape shots? Is the 21MP and high ISO of 5D Mark II really good? I'm planning to sell my 450D and UWA lens (I'm not intending to maintain two cameras) if in case so that I'll just add some more to purchase the FF camera. Your comments will be much appreciated.

Thanks!
 

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u like landscape? FF.
 

hyped 7D ??

What's wrong? I just got a 7D and there was a customer who complained abt the AF issues that 7D had but all was resolved only after finding out it is the setting issues.

3:16 John also told me that the current issues are resolved by the firmware 1.1.0.

so u mean that the problems of people who posted here were just hear says? And they don't know how to play with their cameras?

There are some issues, you lucky that your not experiencing it right now. Anyway, I do agree that it will be fixed sometime soon, well some people like me where not patient enough to wait. Imagine buying a 2,xxx camera and bringing them to the CSC after days of purchase, and again, then again and in the end you still have to wait for the next firmware upgrade. Also, as explained by others here, it really depends on your preference.

For me, as long as your happy with your purchase, then you made the right decision... For now, I still save some more to get the 5DMII :D
 

The difference is only $1K, and what you shoot more will be the deciding factor. If sports, nature and wildlife than is 7D, portraitures and landscape is 5DMk2.

The 7D's advantage is, it can be use for all genre and its shortcomings can be overcome by the choice of lenses, whereas the 5DMk2 is more restricted but does not mean it will not do the job and the IQ is definitely better because it is FF.

But if you are into general photography than 7D will make more sense and the saving can go for lenses.

I have both the 7D and the 5Dmk2 and even a 1Dmk3, and I use different cameras for different genre.

I tend to use the 7D more often since I can use it to shot wildlife, portraitures and landscape without sacrificing between speed and IQ. I only use my 5Dmk2 with I am strictly shooting portraiture and my 1Dmk3 when I am shoot wildlife and will also use the 7D when I need the additional focal length when shooting birds.
That said, I would go for 7D if I one have one choice.

The hype over the AF issue on the 7D is over exaggerated, most of the time is the user, some of the AF issue can be resolve by merely adjusting the micro adjustment because of front and back focus rather than faulty AF, yes there are bad copies but not all that is reported are actual equipment problem. It took me one month of testing and 4000 shots to finally finds out my 500mm + 1.4 TC lens back focus on my 7D but not on the 1Dmk3, but my 300mm + 2x TC do not have such problem on both cameras.
 

Hi I think you mis understood my statement. When did I even said that problems of people who posted here were just hear says? And they don't know how to play with their cameras..?? :angry:

Please YOU do not put words in my mouth. I did not said that..Please think b4 you speaks next time. For now I am happy with the 7D.


so u mean that the problems of people who posted here were just hear says? And they don't know how to play with their cameras?

There are some issues, you lucky that your not experiencing it right now. Anyway, I do agree that it will be fixed sometime soon, well some people like me where not patient enough to wait. Imagine buying a 2,xxx camera and bringing them to the CSC after days of purchase, and again, then again and in the end you still have to wait for the next firmware upgrade. Also, as explained by others here, it really depends on your preference.

For me, as long as your happy with your purchase, then you made the right decision... For now, I still save some more to get the 5DMII :D
 

I using 5Dmk2 and i was blow away with its IQ. ;)
 

no doubt 5DII has great IQ. if i have to choose 7D or 5DII i will first look at my lens collection. if i have a bunch of great efs lenses like 10-22, 17-55 i will hesitate going FF. i think ultimately its up to TS on what he wants to shoot. there was this guy i met at john316 who downgraded from 5D to 7D because he shoots wildlife, birds etc. 7D's IQ is great too, it's made for people like him too. TS, this is something only you will know your own needs best.
 

exactly what are the reasons for choosing the 5DII over 7D for landscape? :think:
 

I love the 5dII for the IQ, the 7D is no bad too I find. But I find the 7D alot more versatile, especially with the built-in flash...makes fill flash so much convenient...
 

I love the 5dII for the IQ, the 7D is no bad too I find. But I find the 7D alot more versatile, especially with the built-in flash...makes fill flash so much convenient...

First off sorry for digging this old thread up. I was wondering how come nobody speaks of DOF comparison when using 1.6 or full frame.
i was thinking to use 1.4 aperture on 5D mk2 means the dof may be too thin for certain shots. Thus we lose light be moving aperture up to gain the dof.

However if we're to use 7D with 1.4 aperture we actually gain a dof advantage at that same given light.
 

First off sorry for digging this old thread up. I was wondering how come nobody speaks of DOF comparison when using 1.6 or full frame.
i was thinking to use 1.4 aperture on 5D mk2 means the dof may be too thin for certain shots. Thus we lose light be moving aperture up to gain the dof.

However if we're to use 7D with 1.4 aperture we actually gain a dof advantage at that same given light.

i've been thinking about this too. on FF at f/2...50mm has a very thin DOP...as opposed to the f/2 on a crop body...i cld do a proper action shot in the night where the whole body was captured in focus. but on a 5D?? oh well, whatever it is someday...i will go FF! :think:
 

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