400D or 30D
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more info. on 400d up at dpreview..
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp
I find the eos305/400 series a cross between the pro1 and the DSLR in terms of ergonomics, and not a true DSLR for that matter. It's way too small to hold comfortably for long hrs of shooting, esp when mounting on bigger lenses.
I don't care if it has 10 or 12 mp, I will still go for the 20/30D option.
Nevertheless, IMO, canon should equip. the 30D with the same 10mp sensor along with better functions such as better AF point layout, iso reading in viewfinder, smaller spot meter circle, etc. Already ppl see little improvement it has over the 20D, now with the introduction of the 400D, I am not sure if it could still have a shelve life of 18 mths and allow its competitor to "leap frog" over (with ease).
I don't care if it has 10 or 12 mp, I will still go for the 20/30D option.
Nevertheless, IMO, canon should equip. the 30D with the same 10mp sensor along with better functions such as better AF point layout, iso reading in viewfinder, smaller spot meter circle, etc. Already ppl see little improvement it has over the 20D, now with the introduction of the 400D, I am not sure if it could still have a shelve life of 18 mths and allow its competitor to "leap frog" over (with ease).
frankly, its not about the MP.
canon DIDNT want to go to 10mp. they already said they felt 8.2 mp on the current sensor size is the most optimal.
but of course, they have to give in to market demand. look how much share the sony has taken already - 26%... canon drop almost 20% in sales in july.
ill be curious to see how noise performance compares to the 350D/30D, because they have had to cram more photopixels onto the same sensor.
canon DIDNT want to go to 10mp. they already said they felt 8.2 mp on the current sensor size is the most optimal.
but of course, they have to give in to market demand. look how much share the sony has taken already - 26%... canon drop almost 20% in sales in july.
ill be curious to see how noise performance compares to the 350D/30D, because they have had to cram more photopixels onto the same sensor.
jdredd said:
8-10mp may not be significant to the seasoned photographer, but what about the improvements in terms of features? IMO, they are too minimal to be named the successor to the 20D. Canon seems too contended and let the competition move closer. I hope they could wake up a little and not let their XXD series become their weakest link....
its swings and roundabouts i guess.
the thing is, given their stance, there really wasnt much more they could do for the 30D, without impeding on 5D.
and so far 30D sales have been very very good for them... so i dont think where they are sitting that they think it was a big mistake..
i have no doubt the next XXD series will be quite a significant leap forward. 6400 ISO, higher DR, dust control, at least 12mp, but perhaps on a 1.3 sensor.
the thing is, given their stance, there really wasnt much more they could do for the 30D, without impeding on 5D.
and so far 30D sales have been very very good for them... so i dont think where they are sitting that they think it was a big mistake..
i have no doubt the next XXD series will be quite a significant leap forward. 6400 ISO, higher DR, dust control, at least 12mp, but perhaps on a 1.3 sensor.
jdredd said:
I think 1.6x crop factor is quite ideal for people who need more zoom without getting the very expensive and heavy drainpipes. Whereas full frame may be better for wide angle shooters and greater development potential on dynamic range and noise ratio capabilities.
1.3x crop factor seems "not here or there" to me. More likely to be phase out IMO. :think:
Wow. 400D is a joke man. Canon sure knows how to market their products 'swee-swee'. Wedge in between D80 and A100. Got anti-dust, 10.1Mp, big LCD, CMOS as the main selling factor. Just enough to 'compete'. I think I could learn a thing or two from Canon's marketing strategy.
I'd rather go get the 350D if its selling for less than S$1.2K.
I'd rather go get the 350D if its selling for less than S$1.2K.
hazmee said:
Haha! well said! After some thoughts, I when straight for the 20D also when they introduced the 30D. But I think the anti-dust thingy is quite useful.
Now that sony enter the DSLR business, I guess it’s important for canon to try harder to capture more newbie entering the DSLR market, against its competitors.
These ppl that are less familiar to digital photography are likely to see the pixel count as a major deciding factor of purchase. Seeing it in that light, we can be empathetic to canon’s marketing strategy to quickly join in the 10mp club! Once you commit to a system, it’s hard to "jump ship". They would not let potential customer slip away just like that!
Thought Canon said a higher megapixel count for the sensor size will introduce more noise or something ...Well now it is more pixels with a slightly smaller sensor size some more! Let's see if they were being trueful 
If this is not case then I look foward to the day of 16.7megapixels on the APS-C sensor plus ISO from 50 to 6400!
If this is not case then I look foward to the day of 16.7megapixels on the APS-C sensor plus ISO from 50 to 6400!one day, it will be gigapixels liao.. a matter of time only and memory cards will come in terabytes the technology is available, only problem is the cost of bringing it to market.. how many pple will be willing to pay $.5mil for a 1gigapixel camera? :bsmilie: just imagine it was only 2~3yrs ago when the top of the line cameras only had 4mp.. so if mp increases 1.5x every year, we should see 1gp economically available in top the line cameras in about 10yrs time
and memory cards will come in terabytes the technology is available, only problem is the cost of bringing it to market.. how many pple will be willing to pay $.5mil for a 1gigapixel camera? :bsmilie: just imagine it was only 2~3yrs ago when the top of the line cameras only had 4mp.. so if mp increases 1.5x every year, we should see 1gp economically available in top the line cameras in about 10yrs time kenrai said:Thought Canon said a higher megapixel count for the sensor size will introduce more nosie or something ...Well now it is more pixels with a slightly smaller sensor size some more! Let's see if they were being trueful
one day, it will be gigapixels liao.. a matter of time only and memory cards will come in terabytes the technology is available, only problem is the cost of bringing it to market.. how many pple will be willing to pay $.5mil for a 1gigapixel camera? :bsmilie: just imagine it was only 2~3yrs ago when the top of the line cameras only had 4mp.. so if mp increases 1.5x every year, we should see 1gp economically available in top the line cameras in about 10yrs time
the technology is available, only problem is the cost of bringing it to market.. how many pple will be willing to pay $.5mil for a 1gigapixel camera? :bsmilie: just imagine it was only 2~3yrs ago when the top of the line cameras only had 4mp.. so if mp increases 1.5x every year, we should see 1gp economically available in top the line cameras in about 10yrs time kenrai said:Thought Canon said a higher megapixel count for the sensor size will introduce more nosie or something ...Well now it is more pixels with a slightly smaller sensor size some more! Let's see if they were being trueful
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