1D vs 1Ds
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Jeddy, you insist that i MUST get a 17-35L before i have the right to prefer, isn't it. why you say i am concern with wide angle? did i say that? thats all your miserable assumption.i am Preferring 1Ds to 1D for the reason of 0% multiplying factor a plus feature that 1D or other DSLR do not have, simple. that doesn't mean i am DESPERATE for wide angle. i believe that the next generation of canon DSLR would be able to achieve 0% multiplying factor. whaaa swap lens, you think is vegetable huh?
Originally posted by Jed
people who insist on listing their equipment in every single one of their posts via their signature should take the good with the bad.
no wonder you dun dare to list your equipment. so that you can assume reasons base on their equipment. why use the word 'insist'? did i insist? i was listing for the benifits fellow canon users. not for you to assume reasons. Wait, you are not a canon user aren't you?
Mr Goldmember,
I don't see why listing your equipment here is an act of "dare" or not. Ian said, that is an act of *wankery*. :devil: I used to list my equipment in my signature, but thanks to people who woke me up. Of course, if you can list them here, that's your business, not mine.
I'm one of your "fellow" Canon user. But what benefit? Don't see any. :dunno:
Does that really matter?
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you wake from what? :dunno: oh ian. he did said, that is an act of *wankery*. but who cares. you are right, it was never your business.
informations.
of course.
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are you ok? you seems emotionally unstable. must take good care of yourself you know.
remember this sad-but-true phrase?
"arguing on the internet is like running the special olympics - even if you win, you're still retarded."
let's not argue about this folks. each person is limited to his own $$$ and availabilty of photographic items due to geographical constraints.
"arguing on the internet is like running the special olympics - even if you win, you're still retarded."
let's not argue about this folks. each person is limited to his own $$$ and availabilty of photographic items due to geographical constraints.
vince
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Originally posted by ckiang
If you want all the time to setup and compose a shot, and want the best possible quality, then the ideal camera would be 4x5, agree? 1Ds should never be in the picture (pun intended).
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CK
By saying that we have "time to compose the shot" meaning frame the shot ideally and getting the model to pose for you. Doean't mean studio setup where you take your time for lighting, focus etc.
If you had all the time in the world and was working in a studio environment, thenf course ideal camera would be 4x5 but since in the first post, you mentioned "Assuming you have an array of Canon lenses, assuming you have $15k (via ToTo, 4D, Big Sweep, parents, etc). Which will you buy?"
Those are the factors which I took into consideration when replying. Setting up a Digital 4x5 system can easily set you back by at least $30K which is double that of your imaginary budget. On top of that, you claim to already have an array of Canon lenses.
I'd imagine that your initial post was to ask which of the 2 we would get. I've got the 1Ds with my partner instead of getting the 1D simply because the 1Ds is meant for Studio work as well as field work (hence the 3fps, 10 frame buffer). The 1D would be a huge limiting factor for blowing up prints to 1.7m length banners based on its 4mega-pixel images. It would simply be illogical and uneconomical for us to limit ourselves to studio work where most 4x5 Digital backs are limited to single shots.
Please try not to digress too far from your own initial post.
I also do not see much benefit of posting my equipment list as part of my signature...and I also don't really benefit from anything after reading countless equipment lists on signatures...cept mabe snigger to myself when I see good gear being wasted on mediocre pictures.
So pray tell me...what do I information did I get from this little exercise in showmanship? As far as I can see....you're:
1. Using a Canon D60, G1, IXUS 400, Canon 70-200L, 28-70L, 2x, Canon 550EX, Manfrotto carbon one + Acratech Ultimate Ballhead, Tamrac Expedition 5, Lowepro S&F Specialist 80 AW (Explicit Information)
2. You're more of a tele person than a wide-angle person. Note these days 28mm (even on film/full frame) isn't all that wide at all. (Implicit Information with 99% certainty BASED on the equipment list...the "information" you're referring to)
So...uh...what other useful information am I supposed to source from that?
btw...I'm a Canon user as well.
Originally posted by ckiang
Assuming you have an array of Canon lenses, assuming you have $15k (via ToTo, 4D, Big Sweep, parents, etc). Which will you buy?
Have to choose between the 2. Give your reasons too.
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CK
err.....
but would anyone be possibly use this $$$ as a downpayment for a car?
sorry if off topic ;p
vince
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Fact is, you're talking about 1D and 1Ds, not 1Ds and 4x5. Fact also is, comparison of digital and film. Fact also is that digital medium format is not as cheap as $15K. As a moderator, I believe you should stick to your point in your own thread. Otherwise, it will lead to digression, out of point discussions and flaming.
I'm just trying to clarify myself. No flaming intended.
Cheers
I'm not saying you're wrong, but in my experience, 5fps is not enough. If you're shooting 5fps you might as well be shooting 3fps, you are still better off taking the critical shot rather than shooting and holding.
If you're moonlighting for different people and need more shots then yes, 5fps will help, but if your basic aim is to get better sports shots, then something 8fps approximately and upwards will start to yield better results. Blindly shooting without hitting the critical moment with a 5fps camera is more miss than hit.
And you think I'd managed to ignore that possibility? My original argument holds because as mentioned, you could change a 28-70L for a 17-35L for less than S$100 in the used market. If it matters that much to "brother Goldmemberry" then he would have done that, instead of keep his current lens setup and whinge.
And why should I be afraid of listing my equipment? It's what I own, what I use, and any photographer should be proud of what they own. Rest assured, I have wide angle lenses.
The simple fact is personally I, and several others, think that listing equipment in the signature is a waste of time, or in some cases (I am not implying anything) merely a case of showing off.
The rest Mervlam has already handled.
Perhaps you should post a Poll on your website and link to it from Clubsnap. Do you think photographers should list their equipment in their signatures?
And incidentally, I never asked you not to list equipment at all. You listed, I read, I made reference, you're wishing you never listed.
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