Will wedding videographers go out of business ...

[ST1100]

Just cut out one of the frame from the video and you get the photo already. one 12min video clip shall have more > 100 frame.You can get at least 20 good one from there .

The video still frame is 0.7Mpix, barely enough to make 4R. The still photo is 21Mpix.

 

[gremlin]

The video still frame is 0.7Mpix, barely enough to make 4R. The still photo is 21Mpix.

dun think only 0.7mpix leh... resolution is 1920x1080, so it is almost 2mpix.. more than enough for 4R already ;p

 

[charlesleong]

"so i give you 18000 photos in 4R size, printing not included"

the movie mode is probably a "nice to have" one, but will not replace a videographer any more than the videographer who can shoot stills with his videocam.

anyway, the 5D2 can only do video OR photos at any given time, so wedding will still need both separately.

 

[CYRN]

"so i give you 18000 photos in 4R size, printing not included"

the movie mode is probably a "nice to have" one, but will not replace a videographer any more than the videographer who can shoot stills with his videocam.

anyway, the 5D2 can only do video OR photos at any given time, so wedding will still need both separately.

IIRC sony video cam can do both high rez still and simultaneous video capture together...right? :dunno::dunno:

 

[jfoo]

video is interlaced :bsmilie:

 

[wf7850]

nuthing beats the footages provided by a professional VG with the right equipment.

for the 5DMkII, where will the additional source of light come from?

 

[CYRN]

for the 5DMkII, where will the additional source of light come from?

ISO 12800. :bigeyes::bsmilie::bsmilie:

 

[XC Pictorial]

A crucial part of good wedding video is the sound. i doubt the 5D2's mic can deliver the necc standard... and i doubt it comes with an jack for an external mike. (Does it?)

seems like it does.

not sure how large the videos will be, but CFs are dirt cheap now. Just ordered a few 32GB recently.

 

[engr]

the VG guys are looking hard at the format now. It does give a great alternative to DOF adapters. However the 12min limitation is a killer. We can use it well for directed stuff but not an event like a wedding. 30fps is pretty usable but more test must be done.

Lastly, how to shoot video and take photo at the same time! Both are different techniques all together!

 

[adamadam]

seems like it does.

not sure how large the videos will be, but CFs are dirt cheap now. Just ordered a few 32GB recently.

A few? woh!

 

[charlesleong]

the VG guys are looking hard at the format now. It does give a great alternative to DOF adapters. However the 12min limitation is a killer. We can use it well for directed stuff but not an event like a wedding. 30fps is pretty usable but more test must be done.

Lastly, how to shoot video and take photo at the same time! Both are different techniques all together!

i'm slightly puzzled about the 12min limitation...

from canon's website:

The EOS 5D Mark II is the first digital EOS to offer recording of Full HD video in Live View Mode. Capable of shooting clips almost half an hour long at full 1080 resolution...

makes me wonder if it's a camera-limited or memory card-limited feature... because no way is "12 minutes" the same as "almost half an hour"

 

[calebk]

From DPReview:

• Available optionally during Live view mode
• 1920 x 1080 (16:9) up to 12 mins (Quicktime 1080p H.264; 38.6 Mbits/sec)
• 640 x 480 (4:3) up to 24 mins (Quicktime 480p H.264; 17.3 Mbits/sec)
• Max file size 4 GB
• Quicktime MOV format (H.264 video, PCM sound)
• 30 fps

It's 1080p, which means progressive, not interlaced.

Canon's 30min estimate only comes close if you are shooting at 640x480. If you are shooting at HDV 1080p, you still get 12min. :dunno:

 

[jfoo]

From DPReview:



It's 1080p, which means progressive, not interlaced.

Canon's 30min estimate only comes close if you are shooting at 640x480. If you are shooting at HDV 1080p, you still get 12min. :dunno:

so from the DPReview specs, it looks more like a size limitation, 4Gb :think:

 

[mamypoko]

4gb would probably be the buffer size before it has to transfer it to the CF card?

 

[charlesleong]

i don't think it has a 4gb buffer...

 

[Kit]

now that a photographer can also double up as videographer using the 5Dmk2??? :think:

Just because somebody bought a new piece of equipment doesn't necessarily means he/she is competent enough to take on jobs, be it a photographer or a videographer.

 

[charlesleong]

Just because somebody bought a new piece of equipment doesn't necessarily means he/she is competent enough to take on jobs, be it a photographer or a videographer.

try telling the wedding couple that.

"but your camera can take videos wat, so please help us take, then no need to engage videographer"

 

[Kit]

try telling the wedding couple that.

"but your camera can take videos wat, so please help us take, then no need to engage videographer"

I'd rather be upfront with my clients about the services I can offer than promising something which I'm not capable of and be accused of being a cheat. Somebody who turns down work sounds much better than a cheat who can't deliver what was promised.

 

[matthewgjs]

:cry: Hmm Videographers maybe more popular in the future also .. non-pro are doing just fine if they have the acquired skills. Else for photographers.. be prepared.. Times are harder nowadays

 

[cimman]

The video features and function will finally be improved for professional use and really threaten the videographer in 5DMK5. And Canon intends to retire the XL pro cam seies by that time, prob 2030. i heard it from my neightbour's cat who works for Canon.
I wouldnt tell my client that i intend use a photo camera to shoot their wedding-of-their-life! and i intend hide from them that the video may be so hard and resouceful-hogging to edit, i can only give them the final DVD in 6 months. "What express video for the dinner are you talking about huh? how to spell......"
hehehhe

Frankly speaking, for pro use, i dun think any self-respecting professional will use that for their jobs now. Just like no one will use a videocam with photo function to shoot a wedding photoshoot mah. It boils down to quality, userability and the intended use.
But for those of us amateurs who shoot occasional videos (u know some people use handphones for video, some people use digicams, we people are the slightly more high-crass one use SLR!) we now have a good option to shoot those home video we wanted that other people have enjoyed for soooo long. If soooo many handphones, digicams, and even my shaver have video function, i dun see why it is a sin to throw that feature in for us DLSR users as a bonus. We have being deprived of such a simple technology feature for so long. Video cameras take PHOTOS, why cameras cannot take VIDEO now? Fair only la. For those against video, hey ease up, its not gonna make it a worse camera, it just something that shld have being included long agao!
No complaints about that. Canon is moving in a reasonably right direction

have to agree with you there. I, for one, will not pay any cent for a video made on the Canon camera. It will be of inferior quality to any consumer entry level video cam.
If it's just for personal use, I guess that's ok, since you're not charging anything for it.