Ha ha, then just get the super 5D3 or 1DX and be done with it. But wait for the bugs, if any, to clear first.
When you getting 5D mk3?
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Ha ha, then just get the super 5D3 or 1DX and be done with it. But wait for the bugs, if any, to clear first.
this is because the 5diii was already in production and they could have launch it into the market many months back. way before the 1dx.
gundamseed84
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To me, the 5D3 does not make sense. If you take Landscape, why do you need 6 fps and 61 AF points? On the other hand, for action/wildlife photography, you would prefer a crop sensor to extend the reach of your lenses.
By trying to be everything to everyone, it will probably be neither here nor there.
My opinion is that if you are serious about landscape photography, the D800E is the best bet.
For action/wildlife, stick to the 1D (not Ds) series.
If you are not sure, the 7D is a good overall camera.
Remember, the best camera is the one you have!
How about for events/ wedding?
I guess it really depends on user. Especially for me who shoots a bit of everything....this kind of 'abit of everything' camera maybe suits me as I am not specialised. It would be too expensive to get say 1D IV and D800.
What attracts me is mainly the high ISO performance and wideness of FF (from perspective of crop user).
Maybe one can consider used 1D3 + 5DII or 7D + 5DII combo for the price of a new 5D3.
But the high iso performance of 5d3 really attracts me.
no doubt that the m3 is a better camera than the m2. but to me, the new m3's improvement is really to target an in-between market. just as you have mentioned - someone who does a bit of everything. it will still have to come down to the image quality which hasn't been revealed except to those privileged to test it. for the 5dm3 it all boils down to image quality. without this it has nothing. coz all else it has in it can be found in other cameras.
Tachyon
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Sorry, I do not do events/wedding so I cannot comment.
However, I know my friends who do them value high ISO performance, while for landscape and studio shoots anything higher than ISO200 is generally avoided so high ISO performance is not attractive for me.
Tachyon
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True, but the D800E has an unique advantage of high megapixels, while I do not find any unique features in the 5D3 that cannot be found in Canon's current stable. For D800E, the 51AF points would be redundant for me, while the 4.6fps which is quite low would just serve me when I shoot HDR.
Currently, for landscapes, I still use the original 5D while for wildlife & macro, I switch to the 1D4. Horses for courses.
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chengpenguin
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Tachyon said:To me, the 5D3 does not make sense. If you take Landscape, why do you need 6 fps and 61 AF points? On the other hand, for action/wildlife photography, you would prefer a crop sensor to extend the reach of your lenses.
By trying to be everything to everyone, it will probably be neither here nor there.
My opinion is that if you are serious about landscape photography, the D800E is the best bet.
For action/wildlife, stick to the 1D (not Ds) series.
If you are not sure, the 7D is a good overall camera.
Remember, the best camera is the one you have!
Tachyon said:
Tachyon said:
Exactly like you mentioned, 51/61 AF points are redundant to you. And you don't do events/weddings. No one photographer needs 100% features in a camera body. As long as the camera serves his budget and usage, why doesn't it make sense?
For action and wildlife, I got to agree, 1D/1D X is the way to go. FF or 1.3 crop, depends on the photographer.
For a big part of the 5D2 community, quite a fair bit uses it for events, weddings and portraiture. For events/weddings, the 5D3's increased performance in ISO and AF system is the long awaited features they need in a small package (Not a brick of 1D series). Not forgetting also, the dual media system - Totally required for commissioned work.
At the end of the day, it all boils down to what cameras you require and what you are using it for. No one camera fits all.
esoeij
Senior Member
Tachyon said:
Your choice of cameras sounds perfectly logical for you. But how many are in a position or makes sense to them to own multiple high end bodies, especially for hobbyists? In fact, you seem to be leaning towards two systems, so unless you are sharing lenses via adaptors, have to spend on Nikon lenses also! If you could only have ONE camera, would you give up yr 5D n 1D4 for the D800E?
So if the 5D3 is indeed a camera that tries to be all things to all people n do everything, it sounds perfect!
niccon2
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in my own personal opinion on those that think or complaint 5Dmk3 is expensive may use nikon d700 & d800 as a direct comparision not only in term of technical spec, feature & performance but in pricing as well.
while each company has different in management in operation but it is hard to understand why canon who has much larger market than nikon in dslr thus assuming more FF users and saving on economics of scale for production unable to match or comes near D800 pricing. this issue actual happened twice in FF, 1st 5Dmk2 which most deem as a lesser performer to D700 but selling at the same price range as D700 and now 5Dkm3 more expensive to D800 with almost on par (except mp resolution & built in flash) feature and spec.
btw, there is an article (Nikon D800/D800E cost to dealers in the US | Nikon Rumors) in nikon rumour on the cost which shop & dealer are getting and the margin (msrp - cost price by dealer) is only about US300/cam which is only 10% but accessories is 40% thus D800/E could be price aggressively to capture more market in FF dslr whereas canon has already got the bigger pie thus no need to be so desperate.
canon may be on the way to celebrate 75 yr anniversary in record profit with 5Dmk3 launch this year.
i may be very wrong on all the above but this what my personal thought.
while each company has different in management in operation but it is hard to understand why canon who has much larger market than nikon in dslr thus assuming more FF users and saving on economics of scale for production unable to match or comes near D800 pricing. this issue actual happened twice in FF, 1st 5Dmk2 which most deem as a lesser performer to D700 but selling at the same price range as D700 and now 5Dkm3 more expensive to D800 with almost on par (except mp resolution & built in flash) feature and spec.
btw, there is an article (Nikon D800/D800E cost to dealers in the US | Nikon Rumors) in nikon rumour on the cost which shop & dealer are getting and the margin (msrp - cost price by dealer) is only about US300/cam which is only 10% but accessories is 40% thus D800/E could be price aggressively to capture more market in FF dslr whereas canon has already got the bigger pie thus no need to be so desperate.
canon may be on the way to celebrate 75 yr anniversary in record profit with 5Dmk3 launch this year.
i may be very wrong on all the above but this what my personal thought.
Canonball Runner
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Maybe that explains the lower pixel count compared to D800/E?
Most companies that exist has a business principle of profit maximization. So if Canon thinks it can charge customers 10k for a 600D on a sustainable basis, it would. Without Nikon, Canon may not even be offering the specs you see in 5D3.
Canon will continue to enjoy great profits while delighting you in ways that it wants you to.
gundamseed84
New Member
Doubt so. I think Canon has taken into considerations of the users' comments on mk II and improved on it, rather than producing a near identical specs to fight head to head with Nikon.
Nikon D800 i doubt they just 'suddenly' launch it after a few weeks of design, it could be designed long ago. I think both companies are just waiting to see who will launch first.
As to whether there will be a higher mp model coming out is still a rumour.
if there's only limited stocks... u give the retailer the list also no use. they will still sell at high price.
Canonball Runner
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Good point! Anyway, I think the mp war will taper off and these 2 giants will focus on other technical and quality aspects.
chengpenguin
Senior Member
LittleSid said:
The voucher or "special treat" is given by Canon to attendees of the product launch. In the letter, it states that attendees can get a 25% discount on the battery grip after purchasing the 5D Mark III from authorized retailers. This offer ends 31 May 2012.
Hope this clarifies.
ricleo
Senior Member
the grip itself is way overpriced....with the 25% off it only becomes slightly more reasonable priced.
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