Originally posted by Kit
Sorry, but when I read some of the advices given on this thread, I shake my head in disbelieve..............
how abt telling us wat they are?
Originally posted by Kit
Sorry, but when I read some of the advices given on this thread, I shake my head in disbelieve..............
i agree as well... the camera body is your foundation. you can get better lens later but it's much more difficult to get a better body later.Originally posted by Keito
Erm then i suggest getting the eos30 and a 50mm first
Originally posted by yeppie99
yes i know that upgrades shouldn't be on my mind even before i buy a camera. but now seeing that the price of a 70-200mm or anything that goes beyond 200mm is beyond my budget, i must as well use my budget to get a body that i fancy rather than getting something that is 2nd choice. i look at it this way, better the get the good body now and save for the lens i want rather than get the lens i want now and CHANGE bodies. to me, i rather add on instead of change. is this point of view considered ridiculous? it seems quite logical to me now.....
Originally posted by Kit
So what would you do in the meantime with the "make shift" lens??? Change your photography preference to suit the equipment you buy??? I'm not saying the 50mm lens is not useful. Yoiu might find it a good lens to use but ask YOURSELF, which lens do you need more to pursue your preference.
You haven't bought anything yet so how do you know an upgrade is a certainty? Unless you value equipment more than images..............
Originally posted by yeppie99
how abt telling us wat they are?
Originally posted by yeppie99
but then the fact that i'm buying something that is not my top choice makes me feel uneasy and slightly unhappy. at least if i get the eos30 i can be happy coz i bought the body i desire and eagerly anticipate my next lens.
Originally posted by Kit
Read my previous post and you'll find one of those...............
The rest are pretty easy to spot too........
Originally posted by yeppie99
you mean my statement? instead of letting me guess, how abt telling me directly?
Originally posted by Kit
Read my post again. I said "advices GIVEN"
You started the thread to seek advice so how can that comment be directly to you???
Originally posted by yeppie99
okie.... appreciate your advice too Kit. btw wats your setup?
Originally posted by Kit
You're welcome and good luck in whatever you get.
As for my setup, would prefer not to say as I think its not going to help you in anyway.
Originally posted by Kit
Again, who told you that???
I used to own the 28-135 and at the wider end, its almost the same as the 28-105. No problem with AF in dim light at all, maybe slower but certainly not a problem. How often do you need fast AF?
yeppie99, you said you would prefer the 70-200 so I assume that you'll need that 70-200 more than the 50? So why compromise and get a lens which you don't need just to get a better body??? Think of it this way, with the 70-200, you can shoot in the 50 range with both 30 or 300. With the 50, you can't reach the range of the 70-200. So ask yourself, which do you REALLY need? The lens is more important in any case in my opinion.
I'm not against of upgrade but to think you need to upgrade even before you buy anything is just plain ridiculous.
Originally posted by Tweek
Some of us here are first-timers into the SLR experience. Seriously, with a tight budget, I don't see anything wrong with getting a EOS30 and a 50mm f/1.8. My guess is that yeppie is not so sure about what kind of focal length he really needs, that is common of all starters. One would really like to try different fields of photography before deciding which one he wants to go into. And a 50mm f/1.8 is a relatively cheap but good lens to start with. Yeppie is planning for a 70-200 or longer cos he thinks he is going to try wildlife shoots next time.
Kit, my personal opinions here, I think you're a little too hard on the guy. Perhaps you really have very sound and valuable advices, which renders our advices rubbish, then maybe you can share them in a more amicable fashion. And in addition, your opinions might not work for yeppie, everyone has different demands and expectations and level of commitment for photography.
Originally posted by yeppie99
actually its ok. i know he sounds a bit harsh but i know its not personal can oredi. hope you guys won't get into another 'heated' discussion' again..... i guess everyone is right in a certain way, maybe not in the eyes of another person, but after all, we are here to share and not put down people's opinions right?
Originally posted by scanner
Welcome to the dark side. :devil:
May the dark force be with you...
Originally posted by yeppie99
and also with you. hehheh. fear leads to anger, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to watever watever.
digicam leads to taking more shots, taking more shots leads to wanting better quality, wanting better quality leads to film(for now), and so on so on.......
oh no. wait later shift to banal talk.
Originally posted by yeppie99
better body better lens = donations from members
preferably i want a 70-200mm to start with but if i get a more expensive body i'll have to settle for a 50mm for the time being.
Originally posted by Trevor_Tan
Finally I would suggest a better body and a good performance third party lens with the zoom range you need.
Originally posted by Bluestrike
Agreed....
But some 3rd party lens are not cheap too.....