Thank You ClubSNAP - I Just bought the Canon 450D

[eosdigital]

do i need to bring my camera down to test before buying?

That is recommended by users here alike. Sometime lens are not made perfect down to the optical quality so it's best to test it with your body to see if there's any defect.

For the Tamron 17-50mm there seems to be an issue of some units facing front/back focus(where the lens focus front/back where it's suppose to instead) so i do advice bringing down your body.

 

[slackerlism]

http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397737&page=12

i read from the above post earlier - can someone confirm whether is this correct? :dunno:

I think they are talking about 50mm, F1.8. If 55-250mm at $120, I am also interested. And I haven't even buy my 1st dslr yet:bsmilie:

 

[kemkoh]

the skills for those objects i take pictures of harder to find. can only ask ard some experienced ppl plus trial n error. i know i need lots of lights on the objects which i dont have enough for now. so most prob i will get a set of remote flashes 1st. then go for better lens like the EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro. so far still playing ard with the ISO, aperture n shutter speed which i always cant get a faster shutter speed for better pictures. btw the objects im talking about is mainly fishes.

i saw a member posted a few very beautiful shots - dropping an apple into a pot of water in a basin.....wow it was so amazingly clear and impressives. LOL .....i took a few shots together with my son.....dropping an apple into a pail full of water but.... ha ha ha....very shy to post the picture here...let me practice more first :bsmilie:

 

[kemkoh]

That is recommended by users here alike. Sometime lens are not made perfect down to the optical quality so it's best to test it with your body to see if there's any defect.

For the Tamron 17-50mm there seems to be an issue of some units facing front/back focus(where the lens focus front/back where it's suppose to instead) so i do advice bringing down your body.

hi eosdigital - another important point noted, thanks!

 

[ZerocoolAstra]

to freeze the motion of a falling apple and capture the splash of water, you'll need an extremely fast shutter speed. I've not done such shots before. Heard some members mention shutter speeds in the region of 1/2000s or thereabouts.

At those speeds, you'll likely need a very large aperture lens (e.g. f2.8 or smaller) and probably also a very bright set-up (e.g. lots of strobes/lamps or bright sunshine). Just my guess!

For pictures of your son, you can try using the 'P' (for professional ) mode, then later see the EXIF information to find out what settings the camera used.

 

[kemkoh]

I think they are talking about 50mm, F1.8. If 55-250mm at $120, I am also interested. And I haven't even buy my 1st dslr yet:bsmilie:

i'm sure you buy one very soon. to be honest, i've never wanted to buy a dslr. in the last 3 years, i've bought 6 normal digital cameras (3 casio, 2 sony & 1 nikon) until i chanced upon this website last week. i started to read and find out more about dslr cameras - eat, sleep & work think about it all the time until decided to go for it.

 

[kemkoh]

to freeze the motion of a falling apple and capture the splash of water, you'll need an extremely fast shutter speed. I've not done such shots before. Heard some members mention shutter speeds in the region of 1/2000s or thereabouts.

At those speeds, you'll likely need a very large aperture lens (e.g. f2.8 or smaller) and probably also a very bright set-up (e.g. lots of strobes/lamps or bright sunshine). Just my guess!

For pictures of your son, you can try using the 'P' (for professional ) mode, then later see the EXIF information to find out what settings the camera used.

1/2000s?? i only used 1/500 with flash. can see the apple quite clear but the water splash not so fantastic.....will try again tomorrow with larger aperture :thumbsup:

 

[two200]

i'm sure you buy one very soon. to be honest, i've never wanted to buy a dslr. in the last 3 years, i've bought 6 normal digital cameras (3 casio, 2 sony & 1 nikon) until i chanced upon this website last week. i started to read and find out more about dslr cameras - eat, sleep & work think about it all the time until decided to go for it.

Same here. I thought my oly c770uz would be the last camera I use. Has nearly everything I wanted - fully auto, manual, zoom and macro. Never really thought I will actually 'graduate' to a dSLR altho I had one 35mm camera passed to me many many years ago. But once I have tried a dSLR, even high end P&S is deficient even for normal everyday photography

 

[Schmike]

i saw a member posted a few very beautiful shots - dropping an apple into a pot of water in a basin.....wow it was so amazingly clear and impressives. LOL .....i took a few shots together with my son.....dropping an apple into a pail full of water but.... ha ha ha....very shy to post the picture here...let me practice more first :bsmilie:

1/2000s?? i only used 1/500 with flash. can see the apple quite clear but the water splash not so fantastic.....will try again tomorrow with larger aperture :thumbsup:

ya. those shots needs to have a very fast shutter speed and lots of light. hope u get a better shot soon.

 

[Simon_84]

gosh....getting this camera really keep me so pre-occupied - there are just so much to read, so many features to play with .... and it is like never-ending.... :bsmilie:

i'm still trying to understand the link you sent.

after i saw the review over here, i used to think that on cmos sensor, the noise can be kept to the minimum but after i compared this model to the various 10mp models around, sad to say the increase of 2 extra mp count also increases the amount of noise throughout all iso lvl within the 450d.
i think cmos sensor is starting to lose out in terms of noise performance from 12mp onwards. of course ccd can never complete with cmos sensor in terms of noise performance.

 

[calebk]

http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397737&page=12

i read from the above post earlier - can someone confirm whether is this correct? :dunno:

They are referring to the 50mm f/1.8 II, a fixed focal lens (also known as a prime lens).

hi all.....thanks again for the warm welcome and advises. i'm so happy to know there are so many new 450D owner. it goes to show i made the right choice...ha ha ha.

actually i'm quite happy with the kit-len. will buy the Tamron next month since it is highly recommended here.

Not true. The right choice ≠ the popular choice. The right choice is the one that works for you. Since you have found that the 450D works for you, then you probably have made the right choice.

Also, you don't buy a lens because it's highly recommended; you buy a lens when you need one. Hence I suggest not buying the lens and playing with your kit lens first. Again, remember, popular/highly recommended does not mean it works for you.

after i saw the review over here, i used to think that on cmos sensor, the noise can be kept to the minimum but after i compared this model to the various 10mp models around, sad to say the increase of 2 extra mp count also increases the amount of noise throughout all iso lvl within the 450d.
i think cmos sensor is starting to lose out in terms of noise performance from 12mp onwards. of course ccd can never complete with cmos sensor in terms of noise performance.

Not sure if you are aware, but CMOS technology is actually noisier by nature, but thanks to Canon (and now also Nikon) developing good image processing from the time the light hits the sensor to the time an image is saved, you get lower noise images. That said, there is also a limit to how much noise can be cleaned up as you squeeze more pixels onto a sensor of the same physical size.

 

[slackerlism]

i'm sure you buy one very soon. to be honest, i've never wanted to buy a dslr. in the last 3 years, i've bought 6 normal digital cameras (3 casio, 2 sony & 1 nikon) until i chanced upon this website last week. i started to read and find out more about dslr cameras - eat, sleep & work think about it all the time until decided to go for it.

Yet should be buying 450d soon although 1000d is tempting too due to price difference. Waiting for Comex to see got what offering. Not in a hurry as I buying for my oversea trip in Mid Oct. Buy at end of month, still got 1 month plus to play and learn before trip.

After getting 1st dslr still got alot of things need to buy. Buying according to what I think more impt. Dry cabinet, then tripod, Flash/Len (when I really need it).

 

[calebk]

Yet should be buying 450d soon although 1000d is tempting too due to price difference. Waiting for Comex to see got what offering. Not in a hurry as I buying for my oversea trip in Mid Oct. Buy at end of month, still got 1 month plus to play and learn before trip.

After getting 1st dslr still got alot of things need to buy. Buying according to what I think more impt. Dry cabinet, then tripod, Flash/Len (when I really need it).

I suggest not waiting for COMEX. You will hardly get a better deal at the IT fairs.

 

[slackerlism]

I suggest not waiting for COMEX. You will hardly get a better deal at the IT fairs.

Just waiting for Comex but unlikely to buy there. Should be buying from shop during that period. But I did heard that last day of fair, they may add alot of free gifts. For new DSLR owners, these may be useful since we don't have anything in 1st place. Good if they give useful stuff like dry cabinet, battery grip, extra original canon battery or 50mm/f1.8 II. :bsmilie: I can always dream

Current Canon promotion till 24 Aug (last day redemption is 26 Aug). Comex is on 28 Aug. Maybe new promotion for Comex. I doubt price for 450D will drop much or no one will buy 1000D (unless 1000D also drop price ). Likely just slight drop in price or change in bundle/gift.

No harm waiting since I am not in hurry. No time to play/learn this month anyway.

 

[amosfoo]

just wana ask, how many of you fellow 450D users own and use the grip(BG-E5)?

 

[acitinium]

just wana ask, how many of you fellow 450D users own and use the grip(BG-E5)?

yar wonder anyone find it useful? as i intend to use 450d for travel, and thinking of using the batt grip aa size batteries, while the 'main' battery is charging

 

[calebk]

yar wonder anyone find it useful? as i intend to use 450d for travel, and thinking of using the batt grip aa size batteries, while the 'main' battery is charging

Apparently (at least when I was on a 30D, but I'm quite sure it applies to the 450D), the AA battery cartridge is meant only for emergency use. You aren't going to get a battery lifespan anywhere near that of the Li-Ion cells.

 

[amosfoo]

actually, i was talking about the grip for portrait shots, not about battery lifespan. my battery lasts me pretty well on shooting trips.

 

[Benosaurous]

congrats on the purchase, welcome to the canon family, and the 450D family, i will suggest you to try out your kit lenses before you buy anything else.

the 18-55 IS and 55-250 IS are very good lenses for starters, it covers almost everything you will need and they are really cheap. Find out the focal range you used most and invest the lenses that can help you most to deliver the best quality photos. And before that you should get all the basics right, understand shutterspeed, aperature and most importantly exposure. You can read up books from the library, ask the fellow CSers, take up a course or join up some gathering to gain more knowledge.

For you information i am also new! brought my first DSLR 450D at may for taiwan trip, dont be afraid to ask or join us in gatherings, we are all here to learn from each other.
Enjoy photography! but seriously dont get affected by the BBB virus first, know what you will need most before investing money into it. have fun.

 

[doubleace]

Hey bro,
Congrat on your new purchase.. shot more and you will learn more. Don't fall into BBB virus so fast, play with your kit lens and enjoy your gun. Until you come to a certain range and you really need that lens to shoot at that range then read more about it before you buy it.

Play more with your camera settings and know the different functions. Now you got your camera next will be a cabinet to keep your camera.