Switching to sony A7 (from m4/3)

[keithwee]

I just find Olympus should just focus on the Pens and Om-D as fun and good quality interchangeable system. I just find the EM-1 is a repeat of E-1/E-3/E-5 mistake (taking on the Pro market).

Isn't the EM-1 one of the Om-D family?

As a system/brand matures, its typical to try branching out its reach. The EM-1 IMO here is for this purpose of bringing back the FT users back into the fold and of course, giving another option to the diff consumer types within the MFT family. Whether success or failure, no one knows but from what I can see/felt/experienced, the EM-1 by itself is a admirable camera that can stand on its own against the flagship models by other brands.

and admittingly, I'd be quite sad if Oly decided to limit itself to just 2 product lines. Seeing how Sony has grown to now a camera & lens collection covering every type of user (strictly handphone snapper, QX, , RX , Nex, Alpha series etc), I hope Oly will be able to do this one day too.

 

[keithwee]

I want 12-24 f1.7 and 50-150 f2.0

haha, confirm need the EM-1 + HLD-7 grip to get a proper hold sometimes i do wonder is there any limitations to the size of bodies/lenses under MFT since by all rights, Micro & Quality is key to the MFT vision.

 

[JW73]

Isn't the EM-1 one of the Om-D family?

As a system/brand matures, its typical to try branching out its reach. The EM-1 IMO here is for this purpose of bringing back the FT users back into the fold and of course, giving another option to the diff consumer types within the MFT family. Whether success or failure, no one knows but from what I can see/felt/experienced, the EM-1 by itself is a admirable camera that can stand on its own against the flagship models by other brands.

and admittingly, I'd be quite sad if Oly decided to limit itself to just 2 product lines. Seeing how Sony has grown to now a camera & lens collection covering every type of user (strictly handphone snapper, QX, , RX , Nex, Alpha series etc), I hope Oly will be able to do this one day too.

I know what you mean But I am not sure if there is still much FT pro users after the last 4yrs of gap. Using an adapter in a system is not an option for me ( I tried but find to cumbersome) at least. A market survey should be done if photographer like to use adapters or just native lens.

Although m4/3 users are convinced 4/3 sensors are equil to FF. I am not sure if it is the majority. So seeing FF mirrorless is a game changer.

 

[keithwee]

I know what you mean But I am not sure if there is still much FT pro users after the last 4yrs of gap. Using an adapter in a system is not an option for me ( I tried but find to cumbersome) at least. A market survey should be done if photographer like to use adapters or just native lens.

Although m4/3 users are convinced 4/3 sensors are equil to FF. I am not sure if it is the majority. So seeing FF mirrorless is a game changer.

ya, the news about a FF mirrorless really did have me sit up and take notice amongst the barrage of new body announcements. Its always a good thing to know the technical specifications wise, the mirrorless world is really advancing. Users have different habits la haha, some swear by no adapters, some are ok with so-so adapters, some must have the highest quality adapters haha. Just glad to have the choices.

 

[sje4182]

Although m4/3 users are convinced 4/3 sensors are equil to FF. I am not sure if it is the majority. So seeing FF mirrorless is a game changer.

I guess I am not one of them. Instead I would say that they are good enough that 90% of the time, the trade off vs ff dslr (portability and cost) is worth it.

For Sony FE, i think it's admirable that they addressed the portability issue at no "extra charge" - its in the same ballpark as Canon/Nikon ff dslrs.

But for me, at launch there won't be enough lenses to make it a "sure buy" and I guess even if there were, I am not willing to pay $5k (or more) for an A7 body + 1 fast standard zoom + 1 or 2 primes + 1 ext flash. Maybe a year later things will be different. Right now my ep5 system with 4 lens (1 fast standard, 1 superzoom, 2 primes) and flash are well below $4k.

 

[Anthony Lee]

Very dangerous to buy based on implied use. My long years of experience tells me that I use only 1 lens 90% of the time. On my lowly NEX 5N, I have my Nikkor 28f2.8 ais stuck to it and sometimes I wonder why I own so many lenses. Fortunately, these were acquired over a long space of time. Can anybody here remember how many lenses were launched together with EP1, X-Pro 1, or the first Canon EF body?

 

[sje4182]

Very dangerous to buy based on implied use.

What's the meaning of "implied use"?

Anyway for me, I know what I need cos I know wat I usually shoot. I need the fast standard for shooting my company's events which is usually held indoor hence a bit low light. 2 fast primes with one around 35mm for street use and 1 at least 50mm, preferably 80mm+, for portrait. The superzoom I have was more for covering the long end.

So I am just saying if the A7 launches with only the 28-70/3.5-5.6 kit lens then it wont suffice for me (I am a one camera system guy). I will need to have at least 1 fast prime for those shallow dof/bokeh shots.

 

[kei1309]

As for me, my use is simple: A7R for landscapes and street photography. Might as well get the higher end camera.

Hopefully they'll release a 16-35mm as well. If not, I'll just get the 15mm heliar

 

[Thoth]

As for me, my use is simple: A7R for landscapes and street photography. Might as well get the higher end camera. Hopefully they'll release a 16-35mm as well. If not, I'll just get the 15mm heliar

We still dunno if d A7R takes in d CV 15 well? Pending for more reviews.

 

[NazgulKing]

We still dunno if d A7R takes in d CV 15 well? Pending for more reviews.

The CV 15 will never work on the A7R. Even on the M9, vignetting is sooo bad that the corners are at least -2EV off the center.

 

[richiemccaw1]

As for me, my use is simple: A7R for landscapes and street photography. Might as well get the higher end camera.

Hopefully they'll release a 16-35mm as well. If not, I'll just get the 15mm heliar

It seems like filters can't be mounted on the CV15.. right? I was thinking of this option too for the A7 or A7r in the future. But if can't mount filters like quite wasted. Would've loved to put a big stopper at the front.

 

[ayuready]

The CV 15 will never work on the A7R. Even on the M9, vignetting is sooo bad that the corners are at least -2EV off the center.

Pardon my ignorance, this lens was original for a film rf???

On Leica digital rf still had issue due to what reasons? Thought the flange distance is already replicated in the digital Leica?

Appreciate the sharing. Learning something here

 

[Thoth]

It seems like filters can't be mounted on the CV15.. right? I was thinking of this option too for the A7 or A7r in the future. But if can't mount filters like quite wasted. Would've loved to put a big stopper at the front.

The ASPH 2 version I am using allows filter to be mounted and I am using both CPL and B+W ND110 big stopper on it.

 

[Thoth]

The CV 15 will never work on the A7R. Even on the M9, vignetting is sooo bad that the corners are at least -2EV off the center.

Reports on the tilted micro lens arrangement on the A7R is to counter this vignetting to the minimal, if not possible to totally remove it. Let's see..

 

[Rashkae]

Pardon my ignorance, this lens was original for a film rf???

On Leica digital rf still had issue due to what reasons? Thought the flange distance is already replicated in the digital Leica?

Appreciate the sharing. Learning something here

If it's a limitation in the lens itself, then no way to correct it.

 

[ageha]

Agree with the short flange and stuff but then according to the promotional video (sony's at the first post), the Sony sensor have those micro lenses over each pixel to redirect the maximum light. it could be a way for overcoming the problems related to the short back.

Even the mFT does image corrections in their camera. This was seen in their early pancake lenses. The new E-m1, does in camera CA reduction.

Just thinking (more like hopeing) out of the box, Since Oly is buying the Sony sensor, and the new E-m1 uses the Phase AF built in to the sensor as what Sony was using, Would it be possible that there will be a future FF Oly using this new sensor?

I have heard somewhere, in the past, that the 4/3 lenses are big because 4/3 is suppose to have light hitting the sensor @ perpendicular. And the light ring is much bigger than the sensor. So maybe, just maybe it's possible for Oly to add a FF sensor in the future.

Every CMOS sensor has micro lenses on top of it. A CMOS sensor without micro lenses would be horrible at light efficiency. Marketing is rather good at inventing new stuff like gapless and offset these days.

 

[ayuready]

If it's a limitation in the lens itself, then no way to correct it.

Even when it was in film already got cast ???

 

[Rashkae]

Even when it was in film already got cast ???

Not color cast, but vignetting

 

[ricohflex]

If :
• you do post process
• the lens is very popularly used by many photographers
• it is technically possible

a leading software company many include the lens in its list of lenses that you can do Vignetting Corrections.

For example, DXO Optics Pro software has such a list. This lens is currently not in the list.

 

[Thoth]

Quite true... LOL... Probably good to wait for 2nd gen or Fuji FF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqPvVeH8QPA